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mocoworm · Nov 2, 2015

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ssassins-creed-syndicate-launch-by-50-percent

UK chart top 10

Halo 5: Guardians
Assassin's Creed Syndicate
FIFA 16
WWE 2K15
Minecraft: Story Mode
Grand Theft Auto 5
Uncharted: Nathan Drake Collection
Watch Dogs
Lego Dimensions
Lego Jurassic World

Xbox One exclusive Halo 5: Guardians topped the UK all-format charts for its debut week of release.

Impressively, Halo 5 earned 50 per cent more sales than multi-platform launch Assassin's Creed Syndicate did last week.

It's worth noting that Halo 5 launched on a Tuesday, so had three days longer on sale than Syndicate.

UK numbers company Chart-Track, which does not include download sales, did not comment on Halo 5's performance versus other numbered Halo titles, but it's fair to say Halo 5 did not match the sales performance of Halo 4. Although that isn't too surprising - Halo 4 launched in 2012 on Xbox 360, with a far larger and more mature sales base. Xbox One is just two years old.

Halo 5 also earned 50 per cent more launch week sales than last year's Halo: Master Chief Collection.

Syndicate is second this week, ahead of FIFA 16 and new release WWE 2K15.

The retail version of Minecraft: Story Mode launched in sixth place.

Grand Theft Auto 5, Uncharted: Nathan Drake Collection, Watch Dogs, Lego Dimensions and Lego Jurassic World rounded out the rest of the top 10.

Acquiescence · Nov 2, 2015

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1133441

Hasney · Nov 2, 2015

Also worst selling 1st week non re-release Halo game ever.

Jimmyfenix · Nov 2, 2015

Yeah from the pal chart it would be at 150k one of the lowest launches for a halo game in the UK

Newtype-001 · Nov 2, 2015

Damn saw sales in the pal thread and it sold a little lower than ODST.

EGM1966 · Nov 2, 2015

That's... Actually not that terrific right? Syndicate wasn't too hot for AC game and Halo had more days at sake. I mean it's solid and obviously it's selling more on one platform than many multi-platform titles but that's got to be bit lower than you'd expect. I figure it's more Halo 4 than install base but hard to be sure. Word of mouth seems very good on MP though (anecdotally from what I'm hearing) so legs could be good though if word gets out its better than Halo 4.

Kathian · Nov 2, 2015

We already have a pal thread. Also Brunk you win this argument.

Am playing a thread hope mods don't mind but being worse selling Halo game since the first (not even confirmed) is awful.

Hasney · Nov 2, 2015

EGM1966 said:
That's... Actually not that terrific right? Syndicate wasn't too hot for AC game and Halo had more days at sake. I mean it's solid and obviously it's selling more on one platform than many multi-platform titles but that's got to be bit lower than you'd expect. I figure it's more Halo 4 than install base but hard to be sure. Word of mouth seems very good on MP though (anecdotally from what I'm hearing) so legs could be good though if word gets out its better than Halo 4.

It's not great

[Week 11, 2002] HALO: COMBAT EVOLVED (MICROSOFT) NO DATA
[Week 46, 2004] HALO 2 (MICROSOFT) - 260,000
[Week 39, 2007] HALO 3 (MICROSOFT) - 370,000
[Week 09, 2009] HALO WARS (MICROSOFT) - 65,000
[Week 39, 2009] HALO 3: ODST (MICROSOFT) - 212,000
[Week 37, 2010] HALO: REACH (MICROSOFT) - 390,000
[Week 46, 2011] HALO: COMBAT EVOLVED ANNIVERSARY 48,000
[Week 45, 2012] HALO 4 (MICROSOFT) - 336,000
[Week 46, 2014] HALO: THE MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION (MICROSOFT) 96,000
[Week 44, 2015] HALO 5: GUARDIANS (MICROSOFT) - 150,000

For comparison, even in terms of XBox One only sales, Titanfall only sold 25k less much earlier and Destiny XB1 sales were in the same ballpark as Halo 5.

sam777 · Nov 2, 2015

It was never going to sell as high as 4 purely because of the install base. But it is still under par.

Beautiful Ninja · Nov 2, 2015

sam777 said:
It was never going to sell as high as 4 purely because of the install base. But it is still under par.

Halo 3 actually sold better than Halo 4 did at retail with an install base that should be similar to what the Xbox One has now. Halo 5 did 220k less than Halo 3 at retail.

madmackem · Nov 2, 2015

sam777 said:
It was never going to sell as high as 4 purely because of the install base. But it is still under par.

It's super under par, half of a mainline series sales, halo 2 is a good bench mark to judge it against and it sold half almost. That's terrible.

Bitch Pudding · Nov 2, 2015

Different install bases, different results. Wouldn't read too much out of it, albeit it doesn't look like it will become the best selling Halo game of all times in the UK...

It will be interesting to see if Halo 5 moved some consoles, though.

Psycho_Mantis · Nov 2, 2015

Bitch Pudding said:
Different install bases, different results. Wouldn't read too much out of it, albeit it doesn't look like it will be become the best selling Halo game of all times in the UK...

It will be interesting to see if Halo 5 moved some consoles, though.

Halo 3 launched when the 360 had a similar install base and sold 220k more.

madmackem · Nov 2, 2015

Psycho_Mantis said:
Halo 3 launched when the 360 had a similar install base and sold 220k more.

I wouldn't be surprised if halo 2 sales where to the same level of install base too.

Chobel · Nov 2, 2015

wow, that's really low for a halo game. Does this include the sales from Halo 5 LE bundle?

wapplew · Nov 2, 2015

Maybe that statement make mistake? How reliable is UK chart PR?

Alo0oy · Nov 2, 2015

Chobel said:
wow, that's really low for a halo game. Does this include the sales from Halo 5 LE bundle?

Yes, bundles included.

Hasney · Nov 2, 2015

wapplew said:
Maybe that statement make mistake? How reliable is UK chart PR?

It's accurate, but always a positive spin. like the AC numbers probably wouldn't have said outright it was the worst selling in the franchise if they didn't mistakenly say "But Unity had more days of sales due to a Tuesday release!" when it actually came out on a Friday as well.

gtj1092 · Nov 2, 2015

wapplew said:
Maybe that statement make mistake? How reliable is UK chart PR?

Oh wow now it's a mistake in PR. Should stick to the spin you used in the PAL thread.

Kysen · Nov 2, 2015

There's gotta be an error in the counting(missing bundles?). Half the base can't up and vanish.

Guymelef · Nov 2, 2015

Digital sales probably puts the game to ODST level... it's something I guess...

Chobel · Nov 2, 2015

Alo0oy said:
Yes, bundles included.

I mean the sales from this bundle

It launched the week before, so I don't know if will be counted this week.

Ombala · Nov 2, 2015

wapplew said:
Maybe that statement make mistake? How reliable is UK chart PR?

Serious?

Urthor · Nov 2, 2015

Says more about how Syndicate and Unity before it have shat the bed than anything. If they're losing in sales to a single platform game DESPITE the relatively huge size of the PS4's install base, Ubisoft's franchise is in deep shit. Heck, Ubisoft on the whole is heavily dependent on AC and Far Cry, suddenly instead of two legs to stand on they have one and a half.

Hasney · Nov 2, 2015

Chobel said:
I mean the sales from this bundle

It launched the week before, so I don't know if will be counted this week.

Huh, that's a good point actually.

Alo0oy · Nov 2, 2015

Chobel said:
I mean the sales from this bundle

It launched the week before, so I don't know if will be counted this week.

That makes it a bit more complicated, maybe Bruno or Kyonashi can help with that?

kraspkibble · Nov 2, 2015

Bitch Pudding said:
Different install bases, different results. Wouldn't read too much out of it, albeit it doesn't look like it will become the best selling Halo game of all times in the UK...

It will be interesting to see if Halo 5 moved some consoles, though.

Only reason I got an XB1 was so I could play Halo 5.

Footos22 · Nov 2, 2015

Hasney said:
Huh, that's a good point actually.

Do digital codes count as a physical sale though? Even if in a bundle

Alo0oy · Nov 2, 2015

Footos22 said:
Do digital codes count as a physical sale though? Even if in a bundle

I think they do if the bundle was released normally.

Bitch Pudding · Nov 2, 2015

wapplew said:
Maybe that statement make mistake? How reliable is UK chart PR?

Well, in the Kubler-Ross Grief Cycle (1989), the second stage is one of blind denial.

After the initial shock has worn off, the next stage is usually one of classic denial, where they pretend that the news has not been given. They effectively close their eyes to any evidence and pretend that nothing has happened.
(...)
A classic behavior here is a 'flight into health', where previously-perceived problems are suddenly seen as having miraculously fixed themselves.

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/change_management/kubler_ross/denial_stage.htm

Hasney · Nov 2, 2015

Footos22 said:
Do digital codes count as a physical sale though? Even if in a bundle

If in an official bundle, they do count yes. The Watch Dogs copies that have sold are digital codes in the AC:Syndicate bundle.

Markitron · Nov 2, 2015

This isn't possible, Halo is the game equivalent of Star Wars

Surface of Me · Nov 2, 2015

Decline in both the Halo and AC franchises. Isnt the install base of X1 vs X1+PS4 in UK like 3:1 or more?

Kusagari · Nov 2, 2015

I think the worst thing is the pathetic boost over Master Chief collection.

Barely 50k more with a better install base?

That is not good.

digoutyoursoul · Nov 2, 2015

Urthor said:
Says more about how Syndicate and Unity before it have shat the bed than anything. If they're losing in sales to a single platform game DESPITE the relatively huge size of the PS4's install base, Ubisoft's franchise is in deep shit. Heck, Ubisoft on the whole is heavily dependent on AC and Far Cry, suddenly instead of two legs to stand on they have one and a half.

And this is what annoys me about certain publishers, if they are releasing an entry in a certain franchise on a yearly basis, don't they ever consider a time when the consumer gets bored?

Lnkn52 · Nov 2, 2015

Watch Dogs?
If this game still selling, must be enough funds for the next one.

darkwing · Nov 2, 2015

Lnkn52 said:
Watchdogs?

wow, greatest comeback since ARR

Jimmyfenix · Nov 2, 2015

Lnkn52 said:
Watch Dogs?
If this game still selling, must be enough funds for the next one.

You can thank the ps4 ac syndicate bundle for the bump for watchdogs

QaaQer · Nov 2, 2015

EGM1966 said:
That's... Actually not that terrific right? Syndicate wasn't too hot for AC game and Halo had more days at sake. I mean it's solid and obviously it's selling more on one platform than many multi-platform titles but that's got to be bit lower than you'd expect. I figure it's more Halo 4 than install base but hard to be sure. Word of mouth seems very good on MP though (anecdotally from what I'm hearing) so legs could be good though if word gets out its better than Halo 4.

Possibly. The multiplayer fps competition is fucking stiff this time of year however. I do wonder if Destiny's more player friendly coop grind along with good-enough pvp will make it hard for other games that are just pvp focused to get huge numbers over the long term. Destiny offer many hours of single player, coop, and pvp which makes games like halo and cod kind of outdated.

Walshicus · Nov 2, 2015

Who *didnt* buy this digitally though?

Lnkn52 · Nov 2, 2015

Jimmyfenix said:
You can thank the ps4 ac syndicate bundle for the bump for watchdogs

OK, that makes sense now.

QaaQer · Nov 2, 2015

Sir Fragula said:
Who *didnt* buy this digitally though?

Those for who 20 euros isnt pocket change?

mcrommert · Nov 2, 2015

With no digital sales numbers are meaningless...especially with a game like this which people keep all gen and preload to play minutes one

stryke · Nov 2, 2015

wapplew said:
Maybe that statement make mistake? How reliable is UK chart PR?

Go take a break from the internet. Seriously.

cleveridea · Nov 2, 2015

wow if thats bad for a Halo, surely thats even worse result for syndicate

Hasney · Nov 2, 2015

cleveridea said:
wow if thats bad for a Halo, surely thats even worse result for syndicate

Oh it was, we had that thread too!

Diprosalic · Nov 2, 2015

Sir Fragula said:
Who *didnt* buy this digitally though?

most people.

mcrommert said:
With no digital sales numbers are meaningless...especially with a game like this which people keep all gen and preload to play minutes one

i think you are overestimating digital sales.

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