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http://nextgengamingblog.com/blog/ps4-pro-review/

...However, if you already own a PS4, the question becomes a lot trickier. If you care about your games, how they perform and still want to stick with a console, then the PS4 Pro is a viable upgrade. If you have a 4k TV and want to squeeze the best out of a console, then it’s a viable upgrade. If you have a PSVR, then the PS4 Pro provides a noticeable improvement to the quality of experience you get...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-playstation-4-pro-review

Has PlayStation 4 Pro managed to live up to its marketing? By and large, yes. At its best, it is capable of producing compelling results at native 4K. Stack up Rise of the Tomb Raider on Pro against an ultra high-end PC and run them side-by-side and you'll see that most of the 4K clarity is there, much of the detail is there and frame-rate remains the clearest differentiating factor. But the fact that a £350/$399 box is capable of even competing is a remarkable achievement.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/playstation-4-pro-review/1100-6445141/

Regardless, the PS4 Pro is priced fairly, offers a plethora of features, and is the most powerful console you can buy today.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/11/07/ps4-pro-review

Pro has the raw power to potentially deliver greatly enhanced graphics, and in time, with more support, it will likely do just that, but right now, it’s just too much of a crap shoot.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/07/sony-playstation-4-pro-review/

So who is the PlayStation 4 Pro actually meant for? After testing it out for the past week, I'd say it's for people who haven't yet bought a PS4 and want to show off their fancy new 4K/HDR sets. And of course, there are the hardcore gamers who will snap up any piece of hardware that promises to be faster. Most consumers are better off waiting until more games get patched for the new system, and until Sony figures out its 4K media strategy.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/playstation-4-pro-review

The PlayStation 4 Pro is for those gamers who want just a little bit more performance from their games. It's the same folks who likely have gaming PCs, but realize that games like Uncharted 4, The Last of Us, and Horizon: Zero Dawn aren't ever making the jump to PC. The Pro is for the folks who quibble about things like checkerboard 4K not being real 4K or spend hours messing with color calibration. Those tweakers who hunt for the right presentation on PC. This is your option on home consoles.

https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-playstation-4-pro/review/

THE BOTTOM LINE The PlayStation 4 Pro doesn't show major, noticeable improvements in the handful of games we were able to test early, but that could change with titles coming in the months and years ahead.

pushsquare.com Impression video

Sony's played it smart here: the PS4 Pro does not fundamentally change the existing PS4 experience – it merely adds a layer of icing and places a cherry on top. Enthusiasts looking for the best PlayStation visuals will want this box – but no one is being left behind.

darkwing · Nov 7, 2016

cnet hasn't even tested ROTR yet

Straight Edge · Nov 7, 2016

darkwing said:
cnet hasn't even tested ROTR yet

Their review doesn't even list what titles they did try out unless I keep missing this info.

FarFromAnyGame · Nov 7, 2016

clueless cnet.

- The Last of Us Remastered
Extremely subtle improvement in image quality with PS4 Pro, but no noticeable frame rate or performance increase.

Native 4K is now an "extremely subtle improvement" I guess. lol.

Via Purifico · Nov 7, 2016

Man developers really need to step up.

Seems like ROTTR is the only game really taking advantage of the pro.

darkwing · Nov 7, 2016

Straight Edge said:
Their review doesn't even list what titles they did try out unless I keep missing this info.

its in the 2nd page

The Last of Us Remastered
Extremely subtle improvement in image quality with PS4 Pro, but no noticeable frame rate or performance increase.
HDR provided noticeably brighter highlights.

- Shadow of Mordor
Better frame rates and slightly improved visuals on PS4 Pro.
No HDR support.

- Call of Duty: Black Ops III
No noticeable improvements on PS4 Pro.

- Infamous: First Light
HDR support not very noticeable (on both PS4 and PS4 Pro).
Pro update provides a better frame rate/higher resolution toggle in options menu.

- Battlezone (PSVR)
Slight improvement in frame rate and visual fidelity, and text was easier to read in the Pro version.

- VR Worlds (PSVR)
Crisper presentation in menu room.
Tough to notice differences in each of the mini games.

get2sammyb · Nov 7, 2016

I'm not quite ready to review it yet, but here are my impressions so far:

Sony's played it smart here: the PS4 Pro does not fundamentally change the existing PS4 experience it merely adds a layer of icing and places a cherry on top. Enthusiasts looking for the best PlayStation visuals will want this box but no one is being left behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvMhjFovhM

Kurdel · Nov 7, 2016

Time review said BF1 was detailed and glorious, despite the patch not being out according to Eurogamer.

AngelOFDeath · Nov 7, 2016

Oh CNET, I used to look to you, now I don't even know if you guys try anymore

dracula_x · Nov 7, 2016

from Eurogamer article

also this

pswii60 · Nov 7, 2016

- Infamous: First Light

HDR support not very noticeable (on both PS4 and PS4 Pro).

Really!? HDR on First Light just on my standard PS4 is jaw-dropping on my C6 OLED and comparing to HDR switched off is night and day. Perhaps they need a better TV to test their games on.

[Agent]ZeroNine · Nov 7, 2016

Look at the PS4Pro launch the same way you liked at the base PS4 launch, tech and performance wise. The first round of games never go full Cerny.

PBY · Nov 7, 2016

wait whats wrong with the cnet review

Cardon · Nov 7, 2016

Considering my old PS4 literally melted in a house fire, I'm perfectly fine with picking up a Pro even if it's not a huge leap currently. Things should no doubt get better in the graphics department mid next year if not earlier.

Latimer · Nov 7, 2016

dracula_x said:
from Eurogamer article

That 30% CPU boost coming in.

shanafan · Nov 7, 2016

No early adoption for me. Being a current PS4 owner, too early to guess what will happen in the future - and I even have a 4K HDR-enabled TV.

But.. an enticing bundle may sway me.

Scrawnton · Nov 7, 2016

I read a few of the reviews and it seems like it's this: if you're obsessed with a perfect consistent resolution and a bump to framerate, then buy it.

If you're not concerned with that and you already have a PS4, then wait.

If you don't have a PS4 and want to buy one, then buy this.

I go back and forth between Xbox and PS4 a lot and the resolution difference between the two is not a big deal for me so I guess the Pro is not meant for me, even if I do have a 4K tv..

belvedere · Nov 7, 2016

I need Battlefield 1 FPS data now!

Megawarrior · Nov 7, 2016

dracula_x said:
from Eurogamer article

Oh wow. I need to look at that MW:R video. Thanks.

get2sammyb · Nov 7, 2016

darkwing said:
its in the 2nd page

Hmm. I respectfully disagree with CNET's opinion on The Last of Us and inFAMOUS, personally. I think the improvements are large and very noticeable.

EmiPrime · Nov 7, 2016

- Infamous: First Light
HDR support not very noticeable (on both PS4 and PS4 Pro).

Hahaha. Okay. Sure thing. Whatever you say CNet.

Scrawnton · Nov 7, 2016

PBY said:
wait whats wrong with the cnet review

It's negative..

The Last Wizard · Nov 7, 2016

pswii60 said:
Really!? HDR on First Light just on my standard PS4 is jaw-dropping on my C6 OLED and comparing to HDR switched off is night and day. Perhaps they need a better TV to test their games on.

Looks like outlets spreading misinformation again.

Latimer · Nov 7, 2016

Scrawnton said:
It's negative..

Lol accurate.

airjoca · Nov 7, 2016

pswii60 said:
Really!? HDR on First Light just on my standard PS4 is jaw-dropping on my C6 OLED and comparing to HDR switched off is night and day. Perhaps they need a better TV to test their games on.

I second this on my E6.

KyleOnTheRun · Nov 7, 2016

http://www.psu.com/feature/31507/PS4-Pro-Review--Should-You-Buy-Sonys-New-Console

From one lens, PS4 Pro is an unrequited success. There is no element in which it is not the same or better than the standard PS4, and some of these upgrades arent minor. 4K gaming (if not native, near enough to pass for it) is a small revelation--a visual treat that pops right away and quickly sets in as the new normal. . . .

For a first-time PS4 buyer with a capable display, PS4 Pro earns our strongest recommendation as the new gold standard in console gaming. For everyone else, the picture is more complicated and PS4 Pro starts to move into luxury purchase territory. . . .

From a VR perspective, PS4 Pro really has yet to show its hand. I feel like much was made of Pros existence being part and parcel with PS VR hitting a glass ceiling, but if thats the case, the rewards have yet to manifest. Far and away, PS4 Pros most apparent benefits come via 4K upscaling, 4K rendering, and marginally enhanced visuals. Frankly, PS VR owners who are targeting the Pro for VR benefits alone should wait for more of them to manifest.

rawd · Nov 7, 2016

dracula_x said:
from Eurogamer article

also this

seems like on par with PS4 Slim, except 4K mode

Has any site done a decibel charty thing like this yet. Love to see the comparison of fan noise.

danowat · Nov 7, 2016

I'll wait, I have a PS4 and a 1080p TV, so not missing out on much at the moment by waiting.

Kurdel · Nov 7, 2016

The Last Wizard said:
Looks like outlets spreading misinformation again.

If that was their subjective experience with a 4k TV, it still stand that a lot of people will have that same experience.

Nibel · Nov 7, 2016

poorly conducted review by a big site

Really

R3TRODYCE · Nov 7, 2016

Hmm doesn't seem like a big enough bump to me but maybe Horizon will be the game that makes it worth a buy.

Kilau · Nov 7, 2016

Sounds great to me so far. Looking forward to being Pro.

darkwing · Nov 7, 2016

CNet must be using those cheap LG 4k HDR TVs with RGBW panels

Kade · Nov 7, 2016

PBY said:
wait whats wrong with the cnet review

Fishing for clicks, or something.

Plum · Nov 7, 2016

The Last Wizard said:
Looks like outlets spreading misinformation again.

If something as concrete as framerate can be considered highly subjective then CNET saying "we didn't see much of a difference" in regards to a game's HDR support is definitely not misinformation.

atomsk · Nov 7, 2016

start sending in those corrections to Jeff Bakalar on the Giant BeastCast lol

"If you have a PSVR, then the PS4 Pro provides a noticeable improvement"

That's pretty much the only reason I'm keeping my preorder

xabbott · Nov 7, 2016

I'd recommend reading the reviews. The Gamespot quote shown here doesn't really represent it well and has similar conclusions to other reviews.

With that said, I can't stop wanting one even though it offers nothing I'm interested in right now. Maybe once Horizon comes out...

winstano · Nov 7, 2016

To go alongside that written review

https://youtu.be/l0zHHXu_nOY

Went as in depth as I could do, I'm not a one man digital foundry

AyaisMUsikWhore · Nov 7, 2016

Latimer said:
Lol accurate.

Nah, it's not negative....just like stated in the OP..

It's poorly conducted. Negative would mean that they tested everything they possibly could with at least some decent explanation and found that their test welded no specific difference....

That entire article was like "we saw no difference. It's makes no sense."

It was lazy and poorly constructed. Had they went in further comparing details about what made it not so dramatically different, then I'd take it more seriously.

Lights and Waves · Nov 7, 2016

Looking forward to playing ROTTR on mine. I bought it for Final Fantasy XV, though.

AEREC · Nov 7, 2016

belvedere said:
I need Battlefield 1 FPS data now!

Seriously...this has to be the biggest questionrequest from a lot of people. Yet no one is tackling it.

PBY · Nov 7, 2016

xabbott said:
I'd recommend reading the reviews. The Gamespot quote shown here doesn't really represent it well and has similar conclusions to other reviews.

With that said, I can't stop wanting one even though it offers nothing I'm interested in right now. Maybe once Horizon comes out...

Yeah that Gamespot quote doesn't really reflect the tone of the review

Kurdel · Nov 7, 2016

AEREC said:
Seriously...this has to be the biggest questionrequest from a lot of people. Yet no one is tackling it.

According to Eurogamer the patch isn't out yet.

Chamber · Nov 7, 2016

Kurdel said:
Time review said BF1 was detailed and glorious, despite the patch not being out according to Eurogamer.

Yeah, Gamespot uploaded footage of BF1 too. I'm not sure whats going on with that one.

Xater · Nov 7, 2016

R dott B said:
Hmm doesn't seem like a big enough bump to me but maybe Horizon will be the game that makes it worth a buy.

At least not unless you own a 4K TV. The improvements might be bigger with future games. Seems like something to look out for. If I did not already have a PS4 picking up a Pro seems like a no brainer.

Triggerhappytel · Nov 7, 2016

- Infamous: First Light
HDR support not very noticeable (on both PS4 and PS4 Pro).

pswii60 said:
Really!? HDR on First Light just on my standard PS4 is jaw-dropping on my C6 OLED and comparing to HDR switched off is night and day. Perhaps they need a better TV to test their games on.

Yeah, I saw it being played at a PSVR demo event a few weeks ago, and the difference with HDR on was very apparent. Admittedly that was being played on a 70" 4KTV - so like you say, maybe CNET's hardware wasn't good enough to take advantage of the improvements.

Hari Seldon · Nov 7, 2016

I do not see a need to upgrade when I am planning on getting a Switch and Scorpio next year.

Kurdel · Nov 7, 2016

Chamber said:
Yeah, Gamespot uploaded footage of BF1 too. I'm not sure whats going on with that one.

I am biased to thinking Eurogamer actually knows what they are talking about, but they might be wrong too this launch seems messy.

Catvoca · Nov 7, 2016

poorly conducted review by a big site

This is fucking dumb, let people make up their own mind about a review.

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