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7DollarHagane · Jan 24, 2017

There's a thread about the network details for usf2, but considering the shitstorm that erupted over Reggie saying matchmaking would be through the app, I thought this deserved to be pointed out.

http://gematsu.com/2017/01/ultra-street-fighter-ii-details-network-battles

There are four types of Ranked Matches:

Quick Match Searches for players able to fight without setting any conditions.
Custom Match Set conditions and search for a player that you want to fight against.
Create Match Create a lobby where you set the battle rules and such, and wait for the players that you want to fight against to join.
Friend Match Searches for players that you can fight against now from your registered friends list.

This does not show any friend or invite private match features on the screen so it's unknown how that is handled. But this does confirm that general online play and matchmaking is done on the console and not through the app.

hydrophilic attack · Jan 24, 2017

sounded too dumb to be true but you can never know with nintendo

The Abominable Snowman · Jan 24, 2017

I thought he said Lobbies. Which is different from straight up 1v1 matchmaking.

13ruce · Jan 24, 2017

Thats good to hear honestly i was a bit worried about that.

Chindogg · Jan 24, 2017

hydrophilic attack said:
sounded too dumb to be true but you can never know with nintendo

It'd be next to impossible to not integrate it into the games themselves. It'd be too dumb to understand that but you never know with GAF's hyperbole machine.

Doctor_Thomas · Jan 24, 2017

Yeah, I don't think anyone thought random matchmaking would require it rather lobbies, parties and voice chat....

Jaded Alyx · Jan 24, 2017

Important to note:

Friend Match Searches for players that you can fight against now from your registered friends list.

nynt9 · Jan 24, 2017

This image doesn't answer the questions people had? We were talking about parties. Surely you can play against randoms solo queue without the phone.

Fdkn · Jan 24, 2017

The whole thing was about party chat and matchmaking with friends / lobbies, not about needing the phone app to literally play online

Vena · Jan 24, 2017

Doctor_Thomas said:
Yeah, I don't think anyone thought random matchmaking would require it rather lobbies, parties and voice chat....

You'd be surprised...

TheSpoiler · Jan 24, 2017

No one thought you needed the phone app to play online, just for lobbies and shit like that.

Sangetsu-II · Jan 24, 2017

I thought the main concern was requiring the app for forming parties chating and messaging, no?

sixteen-bit · Jan 24, 2017

That's encouraging.

Cathcart · Jan 24, 2017

I never use voice for smash or MK so I guess I can just ignore the app. Works for me.

Skittzo0413 · Jan 24, 2017

So yeah, the app seems to be intended to replace those OS level functions like party chat and lobbies. Not in-game matchmaking or online with friends.

Which is what the more reasonable people gathered from Reggie's quotes.

Sesuadra · Jan 24, 2017

Doctor_Thomas said:
Yeah, I don't think anyone thought random matchmaking would require it rather lobbies, parties and voice chat....

did you miss the thread about the app that got closed?

Dark Cloud · Jan 24, 2017

TheSpoiler said:
No one thought you needed the phone app to play online, just for lobbies and shit like that.

Actually, there was a lot of people who thought you needed the app to play online. It's in the big 80 page topic.

Dunlop · Jan 24, 2017

Fdkn said:
The whole thing was about party chat and matchmaking with friends / lobbies, not about needing the phone app to literally play online

this, the main issue I thought was having to use your phone for voicechat

Conkerkid11 · Jan 24, 2017

Still doesn't confirm of deny what we originally thought in regards to actual social features being limited to the phone app.

Always thought something was just lost in translation when he mentioned matchmaking. Would be too stupid, even for Nintendo.

jon bones · Jan 24, 2017

If matchmaking is still in-game, then setting up lobbies with my phone actually sounds like a great feature

Hari Seldon · Jan 24, 2017

I haven't been following the details of the switch news. Do you still have to pay the online fee even if you don't want to use the app and just do solo queuing?

Fandangox · Jan 24, 2017

hydrophilic attack said:
sounded too dumb to be true but you can never know with nintendo

I thought the issue was about voice chat, not matchmaking, which we still don't know about.

notaskwid · Jan 24, 2017

All I see is playing vs random people.

Enduin · Jan 24, 2017

They really need to hold a direct to fully detail and outline the system UI and online services in the like next two weeks. They can't go less than month before release and not show what the hell is going on.

Inferno313 · Jan 24, 2017

notaskwid said:
All I see is playing vs random people.

That's what matchmaking is.

BlackJace · Jan 24, 2017

Bruh half yall thought you needed the app to play online, stop playin'

Twenty7KVN · Jan 24, 2017

Skittzo0413 said:
So yeah, the app seems to be intended to replace those OS level functions like party chat and lobbies. Not in-game matchmaking or online with friends.

Which is what the more reasonable people gathered from Reggie's quotes.

Still a bit Puzzling why Nintendo would create a app to replace that stuff though.

Bony Manifesto · Jan 24, 2017

Hari Seldon said:
I haven't been following the details of the switch news. Do you still have to pay the online fee even if you don't want to use the app and just do solo queuing?

After fall 2017 you do.

moltonasty · Jan 24, 2017

OK but you still need it for lobbies and voice chat, so it's still pretty unacceptable and dumb AF.

UnemployedVillain · Jan 24, 2017

Are half of you guys even reading the post or just looking at the picture, deciding you don't know Japanese, and just responding?

Create Match Create a lobby where you set the battle rules and such, and wait for the players that you want to fight against to join.

Enter The 36 Chambers · Jan 24, 2017

Needing an app to voice chat is still silly.

OG xbox had voice chat on its dashboard ffs

PrimeBeef · Jan 24, 2017

TheSpoiler said:
No one thought you needed the phone app to play online, just for lobbies and shit like that.

Go back and read through that thread. There were a lot of posters that thought exactly that.

mothball · Jan 24, 2017

Chindogg said:
It'd be next to impossible to not integrate it into the games themselves. It'd be too dumb to understand that but you never know with GAF's hyperbole machine.

if only you weren't talking about the company that once had separate friend codes between the system and between individual games

Jaded Alyx · Jan 24, 2017

So basically, using online like how it worked on Wii U - no app required.

Creating a party with friends outside of the game, and using party chat - app required.

Is that it?

hydrophilic attack · Jan 24, 2017

Fandangox said:
I thought the issue was about voice chat, not matchmaking, which we still don't know about.

so i guess there is still room for them to fuck up

Dark Cloud · Jan 24, 2017

Jaded Alyx said:
So basically, using online like how it worked on Wii U - no app required.

Creating a party with friends outside of the game, and using party chat - app required.

Is that it?

Basically as we know it at the moment.

13ruce · Jan 24, 2017

A big part of people thought it would be for matchmaking as a whole because Reggie mentions matchmaking instead of lobbies. Thats why that one thread blew up. I myself also was in that camp so it's nice to see the phone app is not required to play online with randoms or friends.

Being able to make lobbies with the app does sound good imo and i don't mind using my phone for chatting i whatsapp call people sometimes anyway with gaming.

Sponge · Jan 24, 2017

Skittzo0413 said:
So yeah, the app seems to be intended to replace those OS level functions like party chat and lobbies. Not in-game matchmaking or online with friends.

Which is what the more reasonable people gathered from Reggie's quotes.

Fine by me since I use Discord to talk to my friends while gaming, even when I'm playing my PS4.

rockx4 · Jan 24, 2017

I wonder if the app "lobby" is basically just voice chat groups\private channels.

notaskwid · Jan 24, 2017

UnemployedVillain said:
Are half of you guys even reading the post or just looking at the picture, deciding you don't know Japanese, and just responding?

What? The only thing in japanese on that picture is local multiplayer.

Toki767 · Jan 24, 2017

I'm curious if matchmaking in USF2 is going to be like Street Fighter V where you create a name independent of your system name.

TheSpoiler · Jan 24, 2017

PrimeBeef said:
Go back and read through that thread. There were a lot of posters that thought exactly that.

Fair game.

But due to Nintendo's lack of communication and the results it brings, it would be nice for some direct clarification.

Jaded Alyx · Jan 24, 2017

Dark Cloud said:
Basically as we know it at the moment.

Yeh I think this makes sense from what we've heard. I assume messaging will also be a function of the app.

Dark Cloud · Jan 24, 2017

13ruce said:
A big part of people thought it would be for matchmaking as a whole because Reggie mentions matchmaking instead of lobbies. Thsts why that one thread blew up. I nlmyself also was in that camp so it's nice to see the phone app is not required to play online with randoms or friends.

Being able to make lobbies with the app does sound good imo and i don't mind usig my phone for chatting i whatsapp call people sometimes anyway with gaming.

My god we have a poster who can admit what he thought and what he now sees?? Is this real life? Lol

TS-08 · Jan 24, 2017

Jaded Alyx said:
So basically, using online like how it worked on Wii U - no app required.

Creating a party with friends outside of the game, and using party chat - app required.

Is that it?

That's what it appears to be.

And yes, several posters in that other thread thought Reggie was referring to the basic meaning of matchmaking that the OP addresses, so this thread is helpful and I'm glad it was made.

Jaded Alyx · Jan 24, 2017

Toki767 said:
I'm curious if matchmaking in USF2 is going to be like Street Fighter V where you create a name independent of your system name.

Depends if Capcom decides to integrate CFN or not.

A Link to the Past · Jan 24, 2017

Chindogg said:
It'd be next to impossible to not integrate it into the games themselves. It'd be too dumb to understand that but you never know with GAF's hyperbole machine.

No one would have ever thought that a company would actually propose voice chat through a phone for a game console. You're basically assuming that a company making terrible decisions wouldn't make another one. A lot of people misconstrued what was being said, but at no point can Nintendo avoid responsibility for why.

Effect · Jan 24, 2017

Jaded Alyx said:
So basically, using online like how it worked on Wii U - no app required.

Creating a party with friends outside of the game, and using party chat - app required.

Is that it?

Pretty much and it's what the official website implied but people saw app, listened to people that said app and lost their minds.

WadeitOut · Jan 24, 2017

The Abominable Snowman said:
I thought he said Lobbies. Which is different from straight up 1v1 matchmaking.

This. As in partying up with friends.

kIdMuScLe · Jan 24, 2017

I hope that by separating the voice chat from the console to the app lets you pick to voice chat to the game you're playing or chat to your friends list regardless of what you are doing

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