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Nintendo's ES Operating System (¿?)
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Zombie James
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Ok...
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Dolphin said:
Fine, I understand you're aquatic and all, but that's the most ridiculous thing this landwalker has ever heard.
Souldriver
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Uh....Linux and OSX are competitors, and they're struggeling to get past a 3% marketshare. I don't think Nintendo will ever enter that market.Dolphin said:
the thoroughbred
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Souldriver said:
Saying that though. The market is so vast, that even 1% can give opportunity for healthy profit. OSX is above 3%, but nonetheless, they are making shit loads of money. Apple are in the top 3 computer manufacturers in the world. If I am not wrong second only to Dell. Now that is some feat, and they're only 3% in OS market share.
What I am trying to say is, it is feasible for a newcomer to come in.
Ninja Kn1ght
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Nintendo ES! Eight Screens confirmed.
MisterHero
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So what does this all mean?
Souldriver
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Yeah, but Apple is one of the pioneers in OS developing, it has a large history. The majority of the profit right now comes from the iPod btw, and Apple can only survive because it couples the OS to Apple made hardware (Nintendo could do this too though).the thoroughbred said:
Apple has established a it's place in the niche market. I don't think any newcomer could come up with some really new thing that would give them anything more than <1% marketshare.
The claim that Nintendo would start competing MS in the OS department is quite out there...
Greatness Gone
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Can I download this onto my Virtual Boy?
RiskyChris
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Dolphin said:
What?
CrushDance
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:lol You kidding?Dolphin said:
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RiskyChris said:
So clearly GAF is very helpful. I'm not an expert by any means on the subject, but I'm not a complete moron either. I'm about 95% positive that Nintendo would never do this, but I thought it was mildly interesting. Thanks for all the great feedback and thought though! I would by no means consider your responses asinine and sophomoric if I ever met you guys in real life.CrushDance said:
Like I said, I never claimed to know that much about this stuff, but I was close. There aren't any other mass consumer friendly operating systems available for PCs other than Windows. I appreciate your response.
the thoroughbred
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true... very out there actually.Souldriver said:
Ages ago, they reported that they were working on making tools to give to 3rd party devs, apparently they were going to be these amazing tools. Whatever happened to that? Maybe this is something to do with that.
CrushDance
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The reason I asked was because if Nintendo doesn't start expanding after this round and the next(2 generation win rule after all) and they lose in the future...I mean when you lose you lose hard in the gaming business. Sure they can live off like they usually do with fan base only and games.
But if they haven't expanded yet...and don't after these next generations then when they lose leadership it'll hurt them big time. Companies expand for a reason, not because they want to spend money on new avenues. But because it's a necessity to survive.
And Nintendo isn't going to make an OS.
But if they haven't expanded yet...and don't after these next generations then when they lose leadership it'll hurt them big time. Companies expand for a reason, not because they want to spend money on new avenues. But because it's a necessity to survive.
And Nintendo isn't going to make an OS.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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"Like I said, I never claimed to know that much about this stuff, but I was close. There aren't any other mass consumer friendly operating systems available for PCs other than Windows. I appreciate your response."
Close in the sense that Microsoft has a monopoly on it sure. There's a couple of countries, I know france is one of them, that is forcing manufacteurs to give an alternative choice besides windows on their computer such as linux. They are starting to become more consumer integrated but still not main stream in most places.
Close in the sense that Microsoft has a monopoly on it sure. There's a couple of countries, I know france is one of them, that is forcing manufacteurs to give an alternative choice besides windows on their computer such as linux. They are starting to become more consumer integrated but still not main stream in most places.
Man, the sourceforge page is proof that machine translations make EVERYTHING better.
Just as I expected, they're rolling everything on their own. What a waste of time and energy.... on the other hand, it's a research project, so it's one perfectly valid way to go about it. Nonetheless, UGH. :lol
Nintendo strikes me as extremely susceptible to NIHS (Not-invented-here-syndrome) though.
Can't wait to dive into their sourcecode soon. I wouldn't be surprised if they shun the STL and just rewrite everything from scratch.
Gotta bookmark the site.
Just as I expected, they're rolling everything on their own. What a waste of time and energy.... on the other hand, it's a research project, so it's one perfectly valid way to go about it. Nonetheless, UGH. :lol
Nintendo strikes me as extremely susceptible to NIHS (Not-invented-here-syndrome) though.
Can't wait to dive into their sourcecode soon. I wouldn't be surprised if they shun the STL and just rewrite everything from scratch.
Gotta bookmark the site.
Alright, both my sarcasm and joke detectors are broken tonight. Is this serious? Nintendo made the source code of *anything* available at sourceforge? And an operating system no less?
What. the. heck?
I mean, it could make sense: quickly develop an OS for their next-gen stuff taking advantage of an open source community for free. But this is Nintendo we're talking about. It's the equivalent of Scrooge McDuck running a non-profit organization or something.
What. the. heck?
I mean, it could make sense: quickly develop an OS for their next-gen stuff taking advantage of an open source community for free. But this is Nintendo we're talking about. It's the equivalent of Scrooge McDuck running a non-profit organization or something.
Oh god, I didn't even notice this until now.... Nintendo ES.
Hurrr hurrr.
It's a research project.
I'd think they gave new programmers something to do that nets them some experience. Just like with many other jobs where newb network admins get to install practice servers according to a random spec and so on. Great way to judge their prowess, they're busy, and they learn stuff important to their job at the new company.
About the license... it's (c) Nintendo. The whole license is in a COPYING file in the source.
Hmmmm, seems quite un-Nintendo-y.
Hurrr hurrr.
Yah, threw me for a loop too.M3d10n said:
It's a research project.
I'd think they gave new programmers something to do that nets them some experience. Just like with many other jobs where newb network admins get to install practice servers according to a random spec and so on. Great way to judge their prowess, they're busy, and they learn stuff important to their job at the new company.
About the license... it's (c) Nintendo. The whole license is in a COPYING file in the source.
Hmmmm, seems quite un-Nintendo-y.
Well, one of the developers is Shiki Okasaki. He was part of the Plan9 community back in 1993 it seems, so he's probably not a rooky programmer. Other than that, these were the only things I could find out about him:CTLance said:
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200707/000020070707A0174976.php
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110002876240/en/
The first link is about something nes-related as far as I can tell.
Mr. Pointy
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Someone on the osnews.com site made an interesting comment about ES potentially being used for Nintendo Wii homebrew creation. Though I'm sure this is just Nintendo screwing around with ideas instead of making Pikmin 3 or something.
While I don't think this is necessarily meant to "do" much as far as business goes, I'm puzzling over the point of it as well. The idea of being a junior staff project does make sense, but ... well, I'm puzzled.
Perhaps this is part of developing a Linux compatible Nintendo developed development package? Everything provided by Nintendo in one easy kit?
Perhaps this is part of developing a Linux compatible Nintendo developed development package? Everything provided by Nintendo in one easy kit?
Dolphin said:
No, not really. All the extra user friendliness of Windows vs. Linux nowadays comes from the fact that you already can use it and find it preinstalled+preconfigured so you don't need to install it yourself.
To the OP: thanks for the link, I love such weird things, will explore.
Nuclear Muffin
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That's interesting, maybe it's designed for students?
IronicallyTwisted
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maxmars said:No, not really. All the extra user friendliness of Windows vs. Linux nowadays comes from the fact that you already can use it and find it preinstalled+preconfigured so you don't need to install it yourself.
To the OP: thanks for the link, I love such weird things, will explore.
No, it comes from the fact that Linux distros are incapable of operating fully through the GUI. There are always text based commands and that absolutely kills the programs chances for success in the mainstream market.
IronicallyTwisted said:
No, that's not the case anymore. There's text-based stuff (and it's heaps and bounds more productive than what's on Windows by default) but it's completely optional. Completely.
Today you can manage a Linux box for everyday tasks (update the os, configure it, install programs) without ever opening a command shell -- of course not every distribution allows you to do so, SuSE certainly does.
IronicallyTwisted
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maxmars said:
Ubuntu is boasted as the most user friendly distro and you certainly do have to use commands for more complicated tasks. Not to mention hardware detection is subpar, and the drivers are still terrible for graphics cards.
IronicallyTwisted said:
Then evidently Ubuntu isn't that user friendly, because I can even administer pop3 and samba servers without recurring to the command line.
I don't even need a program to do that because a SuSE linux box publishes on a tcp port (if you want) a java applet version of VNC, so you only need to point your browser towards your machine and you can manage it.
Also, the mass market I'm sure can do without more complicated tasks; give them web access, office applications, p2p, media playing capabilities, cd/dvd burning, games.. All the stuff you need is there. And most of the times you don't even need to download it because it's part of the install DVD.
Oh, and about hardware detection: this week I got a brand new nice tv/monitor; Windows couldn't use it properly until I popped in a CD, while Linux automatically suggested me to use a 1680x1050 resolution; same was for the laser printer. Anedoctal, sure, but nowadays the better support is not determined a byproduct of the OS architecture anymore.
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