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'PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto'
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Sony is doing to Nintendo the exact same thing they did with PS1. Nintendo already dropped the ball once -- this is their second (and last) chance to retaliate properly. If they don't, Sony's going to wipe them out again.
Frankly, I don't believe Nintendo is prepared to compete. We'll see.
Frankly, I don't believe Nintendo is prepared to compete. We'll see.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"From the PSP's CES presentation: "PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto and Sony is the only company that can do it. Dare I say, the baton has been passed." -Kaz Hirai, CEO of SCEA"
Handheld gaming ghetto? Jesus christ.
i dunno, Kaz Hirai strikes me as a classless gobby prick. As much as the PSP is great, he might want to check out those JPN DS vs PSP sales figures.
Perhaps the PSP will win out, i'll guess it will , but they could learn something from Nintendo about handling a launch.
Handheld gaming ghetto? Jesus christ.
i dunno, Kaz Hirai strikes me as a classless gobby prick. As much as the PSP is great, he might want to check out those JPN DS vs PSP sales figures.
Perhaps the PSP will win out, i'll guess it will , but they could learn something from Nintendo about handling a launch.
Maggo007
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Elios83 said:
He did not.
Watch Sony PSP Press Conference - CES 2005
http://www.gamespot.com/psp/driving/twistedmetal/media.html?gcst=sonypsp_press_ces05_p194.asx
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Doom_Bringer
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Deg said:
have you played them?
jarrod said:
Can I put my favorite music on the DS and use it like an mp3 player? No.
Can I watch movies on the DS? No.
The reason why PSP is on such a higher level then DS is because not only will it provide the best graphics of any handheld, but it's also a multimedia device and very affordable. The PSP makes the DS look like it was released 2 years ago.
The "handheld" ghetto must be really big... why the hell all the newcomers trait handheld gaming as something "obscure" that players are shamed about. I refuse that view of things, I have seen excelent games in handhelds all this years since Game Boy and I never have hidden my portable system.
I don´t believe Sony will "win" at all, the PSP was launched at the same window that DS in Japan and did nothing to steal the thunder. Its awesomeness didn´t convince all that people to wait for avaliable systems even being so much powerful and having a fantastic price. At very best, Sony will find its market and Nintendo will keep their one in a good porcentage.
There is a place for two handhelds so differents in this market. How anyone want one to destroy the other it´s beyond my imagination.
I don´t believe Sony will "win" at all, the PSP was launched at the same window that DS in Japan and did nothing to steal the thunder. Its awesomeness didn´t convince all that people to wait for avaliable systems even being so much powerful and having a fantastic price. At very best, Sony will find its market and Nintendo will keep their one in a good porcentage.
There is a place for two handhelds so differents in this market. How anyone want one to destroy the other it´s beyond my imagination.
jarrod said:
graphics, of course, but also sound, display quality, controls, and the abundance of content optical media permits. sound is a really big one. moving from gba to psp is, in fact, an object lesson in just how much sound matters.
certainly there are gba games that are of such fundamental quality that they overwhelm the compromises imposed by bad hardware -- e.g. advance guardian heroes has such strong mechanics that perhaps you don't mind the poor visuals, poor sound, and relative lack of content. they're really good if you don't hold them to the same standards as console games. they're "really good for handheld games." this is precisely a ghetto. with psp, portable games are no longer subject to such harsh compromises. consequently, ridge racers and lumines feel like something new.
gunstarhero
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"Visual acceleration" is a BIG factor for most - plus add the fact that you now have a portable movie player and MP3 player in one nice looking unit... well, I can see the relevence to this "ghetto" statement.
I own a DS - and just played the PSP for a couple of days thanks to a lucky friend of mine, and I gotta say - my DS is already starting to fade from my memory... though I'm sure that will change when some new games come out, you cant deny the PSP's "cool" factor and why it seems like the PSP is the one that is getting the handheld market out of the ghetto.
I'll own and play both - so teh winnar is me.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"What relevance do the sales figures have when they represent selling out available hardware?"
Well, for a start, it shows which of the two companies knows how to handle a launch better.
The PSP situation is farcical.
btw, it now seems that Sony stock on their site, but still the stores have nothing - i'm sure the retailers are happy about that
Well, for a start, it shows which of the two companies knows how to handle a launch better.
The PSP situation is farcical.
btw, it now seems that Sony stock on their site, but still the stores have nothing - i'm sure the retailers are happy about that
Particle Physicist
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Master Z said:
actually.
yes
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yes.
jarrod said:
Will it make the DS's video playback as good as the PSP? I have not yet personally witnessed the DS's video capabilities. Even so, the PSP's screen is so much better I wouldn't even bother trying to watch movies on a DS, but hey that's me.
jarrod said:
Yeah, an add-on. PSP does it right out the box. And to me it's not just "tacked on multimedia fluff" those are important features that make PSP that much more appealing.
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Anybody who's owned a GBA and played some of its best games wouldn't call handheld gaming the ghetto of the industry. That's all I have to say about that.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"Yeah, an add-on. PSP does it right out the box. And to me it's not just "tacked on multimedia fluff" those are important features that make PSP that much more appealing."
it does it out of the box if you get a value pack to the tune of 32 meg.
if not, you still have to go and buy an "add on" (memory stick), the same as the DS (well, sort of)
it does it out of the box if you get a value pack to the tune of 32 meg.
if not, you still have to go and buy an "add on" (memory stick), the same as the DS (well, sort of)
wobedraggled
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What a cocksmack....
I hope a UMD flies out and puts his eye out...
I hope a UMD flies out and puts his eye out...
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drohne said:
GBA games like Advance Wars, Aria of Sorrow, Mega Man Zero 3, etc. aren't just "good for handheld games". They're good for games, period. Are you saying that because GBA games have inferior graphics and sound to console games that they are less fun to play?
jarrod said:
Advance Wars is not a better strategy game than what's available on the PSX/PS2 imo. Front Mission 3, FFT, and the Nippon Ichi games blow it away in terms of content, length, storytelling and micromanagement clearly, not just in visuals and sound.
Yoshi's Island is a SNES game made portable.
Wario Ware on the GC is better than Wario Ware on the GBA/DS.
The clear difference is:
Lumines is one of the best puzzle games ever made, in being long-lasting, having tons of unlockables, having awesome visual and audio sync while being intense and challenging in SEVERAL play modes. Compare Lumines across any platform portable or home console and it stacks up as one of the best.
Ridge Racers is probably the best Ridge Racer game ever made imo. It has nods to all the previous games in the series by remaking tracks from each of the games while adding new visuals and original design to them. It has the MOST tracks (24, 12 normal - 12 reversed), the MOST music and it isn't a port. The nitro feature adds boost to Ridge Racer never before done and changes the way to play it.
The engine is rebuilt from ground up and looks even better than RRV on the PS2. There are tons of cars, a shitload of tours and many many unlockable cars with great designs and at the end of it all you can unlock machine design pics as well as the openings for Rave Racer, Ridge Racer Type 4 and Ridge Racer V. It also has an original CG intro that's more than comparable to the console counterparts and original music as well while retaining many old favorites.
The game is also packed with features made just for portable gaming, you can customize a tour and define how long you want the it to last to play on the go when you know how long you'll be travelling, and there's 8 players multiplayer over wifi.
To compare Ridge Racers and Lumines to games like Advance Wars, Yoshi's Island and Wario Ware (which are all great games in their own right) is to compare the Game Cube getting MGS The Twin Snakes with the PS2 getting MGS3 imo. It just isn't a fair comparison, completely different leagues.
RE4 vs SH4 said:
No we're saying that while GBA and PSP games might be just as fun in the "fun" quantifier, PSP games can be both AS FUN -and- 1000 times better looking and better sounding. If you say that doesn't matter one bit, you have issues.
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Gattsu25 said:
Try actually countering my post, person of questionable intelligence.
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duckroll said:
The GBA games may not be the best games ever for their respective genres. The question was, were they any less fun to play because of their grahpics and sound?
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