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I want more gritty 80's non fan service noncomedic anime

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Timedog

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I keep trying to watch stuff you guys keep recommending to people like Planetes and Hajime No Ippo but I just can't deal with it. There's always people yelling for no reason that i'm supposed to laugh at, weird comic strip faces when someone is suprised by something, shitty cg, not enough bloodthirsty evil psychopaths, not enough mad max, not enough "I won't forgive you!!!", not enough final climactic battles decided by fate, not enough needless astrological symbolism, not enough gratuitous displays of internal human anatomy and fountains of blood.

I like shit like:

-Fist of the North Star (movie and tv show although the movie is better)
-Ninja Scroll
-MD Geist (I don't know why everyone hates this)
-Berserk

Basically I want stuff that's 100% hand drawn, preferably 80's or early 90's, tons of action and or ultraviolence. Probably all the stuff you guys hate now but loved when you first got into anime. I think current anime that I've tried to watch is mostly a clusterfuck of suck. I yearn for more over the top manliness, cheesy lines, and guys with super human abilities. I'm not a huge anime fan but i've seen stuff like princess mononoke and that kind of stuff is cool, but in a different way than the stuff i'm primarily looking for.

I don't even know what "fanservice" is, at least not really, so I don't know why i added it to the thread title. Maybe I should give myself 3 dutch ovens in a row as punishment? Thanks, Ted.
 
See Cyber City Oedo 808. Basically, you'll like anything directed by Yoshiaki Kawajiri, who also did Ninja Scroll.

Oh, and please please watch Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise.

Also, colonydrop.com is the site for you.

For some more recent anime in this style, you might check out Scryed.
 
Genocyber
Guyver (the original OAV)
Cybercity Oedo 808
Devilman
Doomed Megalopolis


I think the above is what you're looking for.

EDIT: Damn you, jiji.
 
I managed 2 out of 3 dutch ovens, not bad at all. Can someone tell me why everyone hates MD Geist?

Draft said:
No anime will ever suprass FOTNS. They should just stop making the stuff.
Yeah, this is kind of what I think too.
 
Bubblegum Crisis + AD Police - (sorta main story/side stories thing) AD Police is much more gritty, but they work as a duo.
 
Draft said:
No anime will ever suprass FOTNS. They should just stop making the stuff.

Meh. Looks terrible. Now if there were an anime featuring the ultimate martial artist who could literally wade through a collapsing skyscraper like it was a light fog, that would be cool.

The only thing that could make it better is if the writer looked exactly like Charles Bronson and changed his name to Buronson to suit.
 
Personally I'd love this stuff with 21st century animation. Shows like Basilisk and movies like Sword of the Stranger.
 
Timedog said:
I keep trying to watch stuff you guys keep recommending to people like Planetes and Hajime No Ippo but I just can't deal with it. There's always people yelling for no reason that i'm supposed to laugh at, weird comic strip faces when someone is suprised by something, shitty cg, not enough bloodthirsty evil psychopaths, not enough mad max, not enough "I won't forgive you!!!", not enough final climactic battles decided by fate, not enough needless astrological symbolism, not enough gratuitous displays of internal human anatomy and fountains of blood.

I like shit like:

-Fist of the North Star (movie and tv show although the movie is better)
-Ninja Scroll
-MD Geist (I don't know why everyone hates this)
-Berserk

Basically I want stuff that's 100% hand drawn, preferably 80's or early 90's, tons of action and or ultraviolence. Probably all the stuff you guys hate now but loved when you first got into anime. I think current anime that I've tried to watch is mostly a clusterfuck of suck. I yearn for more over the top manliness, cheesy lines, and guys with super human abilities. I'm not a huge anime fan but i've seen stuff like princess mononoke and that kind of stuff is cool, but in a different way than the stuff i'm primarily looking for.

I don't even know what "fanservice" is, at least not really, so I don't know why i added it to the thread title. Maybe I should give myself 3 dutch ovens in a row as punishment? Thanks, Ted.
this post is fucking awesome.
 
Threi said:
this post is fucking awesome.

Seconded. If I was going to post smething about anime, it would be this post. I can only assume the new generation of anime fans are milquetoast silkyboys.


RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRRRRRRRR
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Meh. Looks terrible. Now if there were an anime featuring the ultimate martial artist who could literally wade through a collapsing skyscraper like it was a light fog, that would be cool.
That was one of the coolest scenes. I also like the "perfect geometry" of blue lines Rei made when he was slicing guys to bits. I also like how every detail of everything isn't explained, which is also part of the reason I like Dune the movie. I tried to show this movie to my friends in high school and they'd always make comments like "Why is that bad guy suddenly 10ft. taller now?" or "How come all of a sudden they can fly?". Their insolence greatly upset me, Ted.
 
Timedog said:
That was one of the coolest scenes. I also like the "perfect geometry" of blue lines Rei made when he was slicing guys to bits. I also like how every detail of everything isn't explained, which is also part of the reason I like Dune the movie. I tried to show this movie to my friends in high school and they'd always make comments like "Why is that bad guy suddenly 10ft. taller now?" or "How come all of a sudden they can fly?". Their insolence greatly upset me, Ted.


BECAUSE AWESOME, FOOLS!!!!1

I loved the near infinite variety of:

Bad Guy: "You think you can leave here without killing me?"

Ken: "But I already did..."


SPLORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
BECAUSE AWESOME, FOOLS!!!!1

I loved the near infinite variety of:

Bad Guy: "You think you can leave here without killing me?"

Ken: "But I already did..."


SPLORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the tv series, which I'm watching right now (I watched 30+ episodes yesterday because I'm snowed in) he gives them a time limit on how long they have to live and an actual timer comes onscreen and counts down. Unbelievable stables. Really if I can just find some more anime where an antihero becomes unnerved by a last minute confession of the bad guy who is a God, and then says "I won't forgive you!", followed by a final battle so powerful it turns the sky a different color, I'll be set.

Zoramon089 said:
Berserk has fanservice...
Like I said, I don't even know what fanservice is, I just wanted to sound like I had a fucking fraction of a clue of what I'm even talking about by using cool internet words.
 
FOTNS is good hilariously over-the-top fun (when the timers pop up-lol). I'm pushing for a Kenshiro "dutch wife" cover for those nights you don't feel as safe, and for LOL's

ATATATATATATATATATATATATATA!!!!!!! *HITS FURIOUSLY*
 
please please can someone explain to me why no one likes MD Geist? That's the main reason I made this thread.
 
Timedog said:
please please can someone explain to me why no one likes MD Geist? That's the main reason I made this thread.

ain't seen it

However, I just picked up Blu Ray box sets of Freedom and Sword of the Stranger, so I'm gun be busy.
 
Timedog said:
please please can someone explain to me why no one likes MD Geist? That's the main reason I made this thread.

Weak characters, shitty story, and gratuitous violence are the valid reasons. I suspect most don't like it so others don't question their taste in anime. I think its good fun.
 
Narag said:
Weak characters, shitty story, and gratuitous violence are the valid reasons. I suspect most don't like it so others don't question their taste in anime. I think its good fun.

Why are the characters weak and why is the story shitty?
 
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SAINT SEIYA!

Pure 80's awesomeness... Reading your post it really does seem that this is what you need. :P
 
Oh yeah, if you liked Blade Runner then DEFINITELY pick up Bubblegum Crisis/AD Police, its really like an homage, to the point where its blatantly obvious. :D
 
Timedog said:
Why are the characters weak and why is the story shitty?

Guy wants to kill everything against the backdrop of war, introduce characters that are destined to be emotionally scarred or outright murdered. Guy starts a program to exterminate humanity because he's out for a good scrap.

Guy wants to kill everything against the backdrop of the extermination of humanity, introduce characters destined to be emotionally scarred or outright murdered by either same guy or maybe his blue skinned "brother." Guy prevents stopping program to exterminate humanity because he's out for a good scrap.


Like I said, I like the shows but I don't feel they're the pinnacle of much outside of tossing in to zone out to some unadulterated assbeating.

I've a real soft spot for the Fatal Fury anime for that same reason.
 
I'm not really into anime anymore, but when I was that's the kind of shit I loved. Gritty, 80s-90s stuff you'd watch over and over again. I'll go though my old collection a bit later and see what I can come up with for you. Sadly all of my VHS tapes are boxed up and that had most of the older stuff, but I still have a fuckload of DVDs gathering dust that I can look though.
 
Timedog said:
-Fist of the North Star (movie and tv show although the movie is better)

This is the only thing I read. You are wrong. EDIT: After you watch the first season's 130 or so episodes you'll understand.

Also, Ashita no Joe is one of the best animes I've ever seen, tied with VOTOMS and HnK, you can watch it subbed on crunchyroll.
You should check it out.
 
Royal Space Force: Wings Of Honneamise is probably the best feature length anime from the 80s that is not from Ghibli or called Akira.

It may not have the ultraviolence you're looking for but it doesn't have any fan service bullshit. I could almost see the story being re-done as a live action feature without changing much.
 
Okay, here's a list off the top of my head. I'll probably come up with more later. Short plot synopsizes included.

Akira - You must have seen this movie, but if not: GET IT.

Battle Angel (aka Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita) - A female cyborg is found in a scrapheap city by a Cyborg doctor and restored back to health, only to become a bounty hunter against his original wishes. 2 OVAs on one DVD. The DVD did go out of print a few years ago, and I have no idea if it's been reprinted, but it's well worth tracking down.

Blood: The Last Vampire - Short OVA about the last vampire hunting down and killing monsters on Halloween. Basic plot, but good style and animation. Avoid the Blood+ TV series.

Bubblegum Crisis - 6 episode OVA series (2 eps per DVD, I believe). If Blade Runner, RoboCop, Terminator and Charlie's Angels had a baby, it would be BGC. 4 girls in powered armor suits fight against an evil corporation and their machines. A real classic.

Bubblegum Crash - 3 episode OVA series (released on 1 DVD) followup to BGC. Not as well liked as the original, but it finishes off some plotlines and is worth checking out.

AD Police - 3 episode OVA series (released on 1 DVD) spinoff from BGC. Much more mature and violent than the original series, and it stands on it's own - so you can watch it without seeing BGC first.

Bubblegum Crisis: Tokyo 2040 - Remake/retelling TV series of the original BGC. Not as gritty and I'm not sure it's what you're looking for, but it's pretty good and if you want more BGC, here you go.

Cyber City Oedo 808 (aka Cyber City) - 3 OVA series (released in a cheap set). Three convicts recruited to become special police agents to deal with more specific crimes. Each OVA is based around one of the convicts. Directed by Kawajiri Yoshiaki (you'll love his stuff).

Demon City Shinjuku - OVA directed by Kawajiri Yoshiaki. A young warrior has to defend Shinjuku from the man who killed his father and opened a portal to hell.

Wicked City (aka Supernatural Beast City) - Movie directed by Kawajiri Yoshiaki. Rebels from a parallel dimension to Earth wish to break the peace treaty during it's time or renewal. A human special agent must team up with a woman from the other dimension in order to defend the treaty's signing. Awesome action, but pretty heavy on the sex, so if that's your not your thing, avoid.

Goku: MIDNIGHT EYE - 2 episode OVA directed by Kawajiri Yoshiaki. I'm not sure if this one ever got a R1 release, but if you want more of the director's stuff, look around for it. This oen is about a detective with a computer eye.

Vampire Hunter D - Movie directed by Kawajiri Yoshiaki. A half man/half vampire is hired by a woman to protect her from an old and powerful vampire. There's also a modern sequel, Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.

Devilman - There's a bunch of different Devilman anime out there, what you want to see is the two OVAs from the late 80s. The first is a horror story, the 2nd (which much improved animation) is hyper violent action anime and is exactly what you're looking for. You can get both on 1 DVD from Manga Video, however I believe that only has the dubbed versions, and the dub is pretty blah. There's also a more recent OVA called Amon Devilman that is even more violent, but I don't think that's been released on R1 DVD.

The DevilLady (aka Devilman Lady) - A TV series/retelling of Devilman where the main characters are female. It's a little slow, but heavy on the horror and has an incredible ending. I think you can get the entire series in a super cheap boxset, so you may want to check it out.

Grappler Baki: The Ultimate Figther - OVA. For this, they basically just took a few of the cooler fights from the manga and animated them, so it's VERY light on the plot, but the fights themselves are cool.

Baki the Grappler - 2 season TV series based on Grappler Baki. For the series they basically took out all the main characters humor, made him full of angst and overall made the entire thing more moody and violent. The first season has a fair amount of character development and story, while the second season throws that all away and consists of one huge fighting tournament with tons of characters and fights. You can get each season in a cheap boxset. If you liked the fights in Ippo but wanted no humor and more fathers pounding their sons faces into the ground, Baki's for you.

Ichi the Killer: Episode Zero - If you just want something fucked up, Ichi's your man. Animated OVA prequel to the fucked up movie. Really, really messed up stuff here. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Macross Plus - Not violent or anything, but a really well done, realistic take on mechs. There's a 4 episode OVA version and a movie version that re-edits the OVAs into a feature length movie, moves some things around and adds some new scenes.

Riding Bean - OVA. Take all the greatest 80s badasses, mix them together and you have Bean Bandit. Pretty much the 1989 version of The Transporter, only more badass.

Rurouni Kenshin (aka Samurai X) - There's a TV series, an OVA series and a movie or two. Avoid the TV series, but get the prequel OVAs. They're really gritty and violent. Excellent stuff. I believe the first movie was good too. Can't remember if there's any more.

There's more I'd like to recommend, but I think that's more than enough for now.

Also, if you liked MD Geist, I believe Genocyber is by the same author. It's ULTRA violent. I recall one scene where there were a bunch of kids running somewhere, and a helicopter flies up behind them and guns them all down in disgusting graphic detail. Don't think it's ever been released on DVD, but you'd probably dig it.

Edit: And yeah, Baoh is :lol
 
polyh3dron said:
Royal Space Force: Wings Of Honneamise is probably the best feature length anime from the 80s that is not from Ghibli or called Akira.

It may not have the ultraviolence you're looking for but it doesn't have any fan service bullshit. I could almost see the story being re-done as a live action feature without changing much.

Royal Space Force is FANTASTIC. Too bad the blu-ray is so disgustingly overpriced :(

There's a lot of good movies I left out of my recommendations too.
 
ctrl+f : afro samurai

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wtf gaf.

The guy wants fucking bloodthirsty battles, more I'll NEVER FORGIVE YOU type of shit, then he should watch Afro Samurai.

It's got an awesome style, the music is done by RZA and Samuel Jackson voices it.

It's pure fucking awesome. And it's only 5 episodes long so you can watch it as a movie.
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