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Breaking: CCP Announces Dust 514 Console MMO At GDC Europe
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Darkflight
Member
That's pretty damn cool.
Ooooooh. This could be really great. An easier, more casual 'in' to the EvE universe perhaps. If they tie it closely to the PC game it would be great...like events in each affecting the other, back and forth, in a fairly realtime way.
I think lots of people admire the EvE universe and all the stuff that goes on there, from the sidelines...this could be an easier way to get involved themselves and experience it firsthand in a different way.
I think lots of people admire the EvE universe and all the stuff that goes on there, from the sidelines...this could be an easier way to get involved themselves and experience it firsthand in a different way.
slidewinder
Banned
Awesome. Scrappy motherfuckers.
Buggy Loop
Member
Awesome, so we can already assume there will be 4 races all with different weaponry/armors? Would be cool if you could mod your guns like eve's ships 
Sounds awesome but I really don't like...
So they looked at the Console space and MMO's and thought that all Console gamers wanted was to shoot things? :lol Console gamers can do more than just shoot things in the face, don't water down the MMO experience just because you think Console gamers cannot handle it.
Ahh well, need to see some gameplay footage before I choose but if its just an MMO FPS with "Eve" stuck on as a cosmetic afterthought, then I might skip it. Just my personal opinion mind.
So they looked at the Console space and MMO's and thought that all Console gamers wanted was to shoot things? :lol Console gamers can do more than just shoot things in the face, don't water down the MMO experience just because you think Console gamers cannot handle it.
Ahh well, need to see some gameplay footage before I choose but if its just an MMO FPS with "Eve" stuck on as a cosmetic afterthought, then I might skip it. Just my personal opinion mind.
Subliminal
Member
Sounds great, dont think it will be as great in practice..
Is this going to be on the Xbox, if so are microsoft back on the MMO ball (Final fantasy 14 xbox?..)
Is this going to be on the Xbox, if so are microsoft back on the MMO ball (Final fantasy 14 xbox?..)
Stoney Mason
Banned
Raide said:
People on GAF need to stop going out of their way to try to find a way to be offended.
UltimaPooh
Member
Sounds awesome as hell. I hope they pull it off.
Also come to the 360 if you want my moniez.
Also come to the 360 if you want my moniez.
Stoney Mason
Banned
For what its worth I think it sounds like a neat idea although it has a big uphill climb to be anything other than a noble failure.
That franchise has no mindshare on consoles and it's competing with shooter games that while not mmo's are free to play. Then there is the question of even how good an actual game it will be which we won't know until it ships. Halo or Call of Duty or some other big time promoted new franchise might be able to get away with this but I doubt this will be the game to do it. But I wish them luck.
That franchise has no mindshare on consoles and it's competing with shooter games that while not mmo's are free to play. Then there is the question of even how good an actual game it will be which we won't know until it ships. Halo or Call of Duty or some other big time promoted new franchise might be able to get away with this but I doubt this will be the game to do it. But I wish them luck.
UltimaPooh said:
They should do it Cross Platform on PS3 and 360. Linking all 3 together will be really interesting to see it done. I wonder if they will go after MAG and have 512 players online! :lol
I wonder if people playing Eve have the ability to change what the Console gamers do? Maybe in the way of Upgrades etc.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
Raide said:
I unno, I kinda just want to shoot things.
If this replaces Ambulation, I'll be mad.
If 13 year old raging halo xbox live kids have any significant play in determining sov, I'll be mad.
As a matter of fact, if it at all has any sincere tangible effects on EVE past superficial interaction, it'll probably be horrible for EVE, and I'll be mad.
If 13 year old raging halo xbox live kids have any significant play in determining sov, I'll be mad.
As a matter of fact, if it at all has any sincere tangible effects on EVE past superficial interaction, it'll probably be horrible for EVE, and I'll be mad.
KHarvey16 said:
Is that both at the same time or two separate things? :lol
Its only my personal opinion, I just feel that many Developers who are looking at making a Console MMO just focus too much on shooting stuff , Huxley, APB,etc it almost seems like Developers are avoiding making a classic MMO style game on consoles. :lol
Could they not just make Eve for the consoles? Have it DD and off we go!
Teknopathetic
Member
"If this replaces Ambulation, I'll be mad."
This is being made by CCP Shanghai.
This is being made by CCP Shanghai.
Raide said:Is that both at the same time or two separate things? :lol
Its only my personal opinion, I just feel that many Developers who are looking at making a Console MMO just focus too much on shooting stuff , Huxley, APB,etc it almost seems like Developers are avoiding making a classic MMO style game on consoles. :lol
Could they not just make Eve for the consoles? Have it DD and off we go!
NEVER mix asians and vanilla ice cream!
I wouldn't judge their efforts too quickly. An MMO on consoles is gonna be tough to work out and really lends itself to some creativity. Let's wait and see what they come up with.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Raide said:Could they not just make Eve for the consoles? Have it DD and off we go!
If they made regular EVE for consoles they would sell 15 copies and then go out of business after funding the failure. (Not that this shooter game is any more likely to be a success although that is for different reasons).
There are differences between what the console market and the PC market are looking to play. Being realistic about that is a virtue.
Raide said:Could they not just make Eve for the consoles? Have it DD and off we go!
It would literally be impossible to play EVE without a mouse. That, or the controls to navigate the UI through buttons and analog sticks would be irreconcilably complex and impractical.
Not to mention EVE's demographic is a tiny percentage of console owners.
Raide said:
Sounds like they had a little gameplay shown. Says they've been working on it for almost three years.
Reading more and thinking about it, I really think it has some great potential. The ability for corporations controlled by players on the PC side of things to direct the objectives for the console players, and those console players ability to affect gameplay aspects for everyone is really interesting. Like everyone is saying though it all comes down to execution. If it's just a bad shooter no one will care.
Winterblink
Member
Historically, CCP's been really big on integration of game data into the outside-the-game experience. It started out as just some data shown on the forums, and they've been externalizing bits and pieces for years through their API. When rumblings about DUST being a console shooter started hitting the webz, I figured they'd find a way to tie that experience directly into the game (and vice versa) somehow, looks like that was a correct assumption.KHarvey16 said:
Being a console shooter I hope to christ they do their homework based on the successes and failures of other consoles. Make it painless on day 1 (get your fucking servers ready for the demand), make it seamless to jump into games (especially with your friends), and get your controls nailed down before launch. I'd be surprised if they didn't do some kind of COD-style reward system, but what would be awesome is if the availability of those rewards or other supplies is directly tied into game data as well.
I'm seriously impressed, not only by the concept but by the vision and scope of a potential FPS -MMO that isn't coming from one of the major publishers or first party studios.
Putting aside any debate about whether they can really pull it off on consoles let alone make it successful, you got to hand it to CCP regardless.
Impressive (and exciting) stuff.
Putting aside any debate about whether they can really pull it off on consoles let alone make it successful, you got to hand it to CCP regardless.
Impressive (and exciting) stuff.
Stoney Mason
Banned
KHarvey16 said:
I'm sort of skeptical this marriage will work. It sounds interesting but I could see it being a bit disconnected especially when the player bases don't overlap. But at this stage it's all speculation anyway.
slidewinder
Banned
Of course the player bases are going to overlap, and they'll make damn sure they do. What are you people even talking about? Mrhrhrmmrpmrhmhrp...
KHarvey16 said:
All of it sounds like it could be interesting but it all also sounds arbitrary at this point. Direct what kind of objectives, and to what end? And to what degree will the console players affect the gameplay of the PC players? Just how closely will the games really be connected? Will it be a superficial link wherein the games loosely translate non-essential influence to one another, or will it goes as far as having direct market and sovereignty interaction, possibly even avatar interaction via Ambulation?
Video: http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html
The presentation; trailer + talk.
Visuals look p good, if a bit generic and derivative. No footage of the RTS component.
The presentation; trailer + talk.
Visuals look p good, if a bit generic and derivative. No footage of the RTS component.
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Deleted member 30609
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two "slicks" in one sentence, Gamasutra?
Really?
=p
Really?
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Winterblink
Member
Thanks for that, incorporated it into my eve blog.JoeMartin said:
I'm not sure it's fair to call it generic and derivative, I mean how many first person shooters out there aren't? As a long time player of EVE I think the visuals fit in perfectly with the established style of EVE itself, which is what I was hoping for. Gameplay wise it's too early to tell based on a short trailer and a smattering of gameplay details.
ShinobiFist
Banned
eggandI said:
What's generic about it? I see this term used alot for this genre compared to others. The game looks what I expected to look like for a FPS set in the EVE universe IMO. Anyway, I think the whole idea for 514 is really great, and hopefully is available for PC's as well. I wish this guys the best of luck on this project, it definitively caught my attention.
Looks amazing. Imagine being airlifted out of one sector before being redeployed in a completely different warzone to aid your corp, all in one universe.
Hope they integrate EVE more, so losing control of 1 system in EVE means your supply lines are cut in Dust. Capturing a district in Dust boosts production stats in EVE.
Hope they integrate EVE more, so losing control of 1 system in EVE means your supply lines are cut in Dust. Capturing a district in Dust boosts production stats in EVE.