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UE 3 Engine on 3DS ? lol - I put on my fanboy robe and my tinfoil hat
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BishopLamont
Banned
Such optimism.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Like I said in the other thread (and based on 1 video of the on stage demo), citadel is nothing more than a static environment that scrolls with the camera with nothing else there. When there are characters on screen, they're stuck in one bland environment.
The Bookerman
Member
Why should I care about what Rein thinks of the 3ds.
All he cares about is making development costs go higher, that way, he'll make even more profits.
All he cares about is making development costs go higher, that way, he'll make even more profits.
The Bookerman said:
Interesting because that's literally the exact opposite of what the engine does.
Developers and publishers go to UE3 because it's infinitely CHEAPER than building their own engine from the ground up most of the time. The whole point of a good middleware solution is to lower development costs.
Amir0x said:
Its epic, and they still havent gotten any dev.kits to at least play around with, Cliffy B mentioned around e3 that he is excited and nintendo should send them some dev kits... still gotten none ? sounds strange to me....
elrechazado
Banned
Wait, rein pointing out that the 3ds specs aren't high enough for his engine, and he's the butthurt one according to fans?
BattleMonkey
Member
Don't they have UE3 running on Iphone already?
cw_sasuke said:
Maybe because it's Epic and Epic does not give a fuck about handhelds because they're not traditionally a handheld company?
Yes, 3DS is below spec for UE3. But also, Epic is being forced to comment on something they likely have no business interest in. It's not in their philosophy to pay much attention to the handheld market.
Good because it's nice to have some developer's dedicated to the PC and TV scene. God with fanboys it's always some sinister evil anti-Nintendo plot
So the fact the 3DS does visual effects etc that the Ipad tech demo cant or doesnt means the 3DS is too weak?
Honestly I have a hard time taking anything these guys say over there. It seems like Nintendo took a shit intheir cheerios instead of a piss and never got over it.
At this point I think they just have such an aversion to working with Nintendo they will do whatever it takes not too
Honestly I have a hard time taking anything these guys say over there. It seems like Nintendo took a shit intheir cheerios instead of a piss and never got over it.
At this point I think they just have such an aversion to working with Nintendo they will do whatever it takes not too
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Nintendo did not contact them? How exactly did mr Rein imagine this happening?
Iwata: Hey, I think we should pay a visit to Mark Rein and pay him overdue respect. I know we've been on ignore mode with each other for so long, but his engine would be such a prime candidate for our platform.
Miyamoto: You really think so?
Iwata: Nah, just fucking with you. *laughs*
Iwata: Hey, I think we should pay a visit to Mark Rein and pay him overdue respect. I know we've been on ignore mode with each other for so long, but his engine would be such a prime candidate for our platform.
Miyamoto: You really think so?
Iwata: Nah, just fucking with you. *laughs*
Father_Brain
Banned
Not too surprising, considering that PICA200 is an ES 1.1 GPU and lacks the programmable pixel shaders that Epic is so fond of. I'm sure some kind of UE3 port using the Maestro features would be possible if Epic cared enough to bother, but they evidently don't.
Amir0x said:
Wow, you took that comment way to serious... come on man, its not that far fetched to think that epic would offer the ue3 engine if possible on 3ds. Even if it isnt their main buisiness i would excpect them to at leat have gotten some dev kits. They just showed UE 3 on the iPhone, so yeah you would think they would try to get their hands on the next nintendo handheld system and look if they can work out something with give specifications....
MetatronM said:
iPad market is slightly different than 3DS. Yes, it's perfectly acceptable to ask - but when you get the honest answer, don't fucking come and start whining like a baby because he's telling it like it is. 3DS is below spec for UE3, he knows his engine a little better than you. People should deal with it
cw_sausuke said:
But he doesn't believe it is, he knows his engine. And because he has shown very little interest on the traditional game-only handhelds in the past, he's probably not on any priority list - either at Sony or Nintendo. And he probably doesn't care either.
The Bookerman
Member
Amir0x said:
That's the idea. He wants Development costs to go up forcing people to look for middleware, then they go for UE3. Rein laughs all the way to the bank.
Cosmonaut X
Member
MetatronM said:
Pretty much. If Epic and Apple hadn't been so cosy recently and Epic hadn't been showing off their engine and software running on a handheld device, then yes, the question would have seemed a little odd.
As it is, Epic seem to be making a move into the portable market and it's reasonable for any half-decent journo to ask "hey, are you going to bring your engine to Platform X?" when they have opportunity.
Im perfectly fine with Epic doesnt supporting the 3DS with their UE3 engine, i find it just suprising that they dont have dev kits when developers like High Voltage (no hate )already have them.. you would think that nintendo would take a more aggressive approach, at least after CliffyBs statement right after e3.Amir0x said:
The Bookerman said:
Except this is at exact odds with what you said before. Your statement asserted Mark Rein wanted development costs to be HIGHER, when the literal reason for a middleware solution like UE3 is to make development costs cheaper. If anything, UE3 has helped make the rising costs of HD development somewhat less cheap overall.
And oh nos, Rein wants his business primary product to be purchased, what the fuck how horrible :lol
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
You can have a 'fully-compliant GL2' device with a GL1.x core plus the proper extension set. Just saying for the sake of semantics. But I see what you mean (i.e. no programmable fragment shaders). That said, Epic Citadel (on the iPad) does *nothing* that the PICA200 paperspecs could not reporoduce.Nirolak said:
Portugeezer
Member
Normally I would agree, but the newest version powering Gears 3 and Bulletstorm is looking amazing.Cataferal said:
But whatever, I hope they try something, I mean their engine just push visuals, not much else. I am sure they could squeeze something out. For now, Capcom's engine is looking really good on the 3DS, if they don't want to try anything then I think we can live without UE3DS...
As a gamer it annoys me how they waste their resources on a fucking iPhone engine where less people will appreciate it in my opinion.
Bring it to a gaming device.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
It's kind of surprising to see that the 3DS has worse specs than smartphones.Amir0x said:
cw_sasuke said:
High Voltage has a NINTENDO ORIENTED business philosophy. They want their hand in whatever Nintendo is making. Likely, they've shown intense interest and have reached out even.
Epic does not have a real handheld oriented philosophy, at least not for game-only handheld devices. That may change in the future, but it still seems like Epic is set with the strategy they have, and there's no reason for Nintendo or Sony to assume that has changed.
Celsior said:
on PSP, not PS3! If UT3 was on PSP that would make this comment about 3DS kinda bizarre, no? :lol
QuiteWhittle
Member
what do you thinkSkilotonn said:
Cosmonaut X
Member
cw_sasuke said:
Why should it be surprising? They have no real history to speak of on Nintendo platforms, and dev kits are likely to be relatively limited pre-launch so they will go to partners, key third parties etc. first. If High Voltage have kits, it's likely because they have been fairly active on Nintendo platforms and requested them. If Epic don't it's because they haven't been and probably didn't.
Amir0x said:
Thats why i would expect Nintendo to reached out. Maybe right now they dont have enough dev kits for caterin to developers who probably wont be interested in developing 3DS games for the first couple of months - but Valve, Bioware, iD Software, Rockstar an co.
They seem fine with approaching top japanese development teams.....why not act the same with western devs.
Cosmonaut X said:
Thats true - its probably too soon for that.