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Nerds: Why must we be so cruel to each other?

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Its just rare to see in real life. Combine that with the fact that the internet has some crazy people on it and the internet also has exaggerated opinions and there you have it.

Honestly any time I've seen a nerdy girl in a place with lots of nerdy dudes they were treated fine. Its an internet douchebag thang. At least in my experience.
 
I've gotten to the point that I no longer claim to be a nerd or a geek, because the culture is basically just sexist man children stroking each other off over how fucking childish they are.
 
Cyan said:
This kind of post really isn't helping...
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TO be fair, she said, "I encourage it!"

I mean. That's not what the thread is about. She likes feeling sexy and apparently being a BIT objectified. She doesn't like not being taken seriously.
 
I really want to finish this youtube video, and I probably will after that mormon phone call video linked in another thread, but I cannot stand jump cuts in video edits.

Edit: Oh wait, I can just listen to audio if I get too annoyed. Sorry, I have an agenda against youtube jump cuts.
 
Nerdy men have always had a major disdain for females just in general. They perceive themselves as the the best of the best, while the popular kids were the wirst of the worst. What they assumed was that the women were dating these horrendous men over them for horrible, selfish reasons. This normally wouldn't affect them, but they also have a penis which means they felt attracted to them in a subconcious way. So instead of accepting those deep attractions they shunned them down and formed them into a strong hatred of all forms of females who are remotely attractive, assuming they are all the same.

It's illogical to think that way, because all women, just like all humans are different, but nerd subcultures are meant usually for those who have been scorned by society for what they do. It's difficult for a nerdy male to accept an attractive female becuase it's out of their comfort zone and something they were conditioned to hate.

Sorry for any spelling errors, typing on ipad
 
At the risk of overgeneralizing, I think it's mostly jealousy.

People lacking in attractiveness or social graces often take comfort in valuing intellect and mental capability over physical attributes. But when someone comes along that seems to have the best of both worlds, well, it's not unusual for said people to feel cheated by the randomness of life.

Also, computer related fields are usually boys' clubs and have been for a while. Hostility toward females is expected (and only made worse if the female in question is very attractive). It'll take a long time to fix this kind of casual sexism because the behavior only serves to reinforce the gender divide in computer related fields.

Oh, and would.
 
"...or are we just not blind to appearance as we thought" - when has that ever been true? Sounds pretty naive to me.
 
Nerds are shitty to pretty girls for the same reason that they rage at their keyboards everytime they see a hipster.

JELLY
 
Fucking nerds suck.

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ReturnOfTheRAT said:
Nixie Pixel's Google+ post on the subject
The Youtube Video - I'd Rather Vlog Naked

You can't watch this video and not feel disgusted that we're so petty towards each other the dumbest of things. She's a woman in tech, that's a true nerd, who also happens to be good looking. Why can't she be part of the club like everyone else?

What mental deficiency do we have that makes people think they have the right to question her credibility?
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I'm not part of your precious nerd/geek/whatever club. Or culture. I can't stand people putting themselves or others into groups. So, no pity here from me for people who, gasp, face negatie comments on the internet because they want to be "part of the club".

The intro to this vid is also shot very annoyingly.
 
There is a vast and significant portion of White, Straight, Males in the gaming/nerd/geek/whatever you call it community. These individuals have been ostracized by the world at large throughout their life for whatever reasons. As they grew up, they became bitter.

The teenagers in this group generally aren't adult enough to understand the impact of their actions. The adults are just old and embrace the fact that they can finally pick on an outsider to their particular club.

Generally, the internet gives them a shield to not get caught. However, in groups out in public, they feel strong enough to pick on others, just like what happened to them.

It's sad, really.
 
Haly said:
People lacking in attractiveness or social graces often take comfort in valuing intellect and mental capability over physical attributes. But when someone comes along that seems to have the best of both worlds, well, it's not unusual for said people to feel cheated by the randomness of life.
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Geeks are usually either unattractive, or just not well groomed. She is the opposite of both; she's pretty, and she seems to care enough about her looks to pretty herself up for the camera. She's gonna have the same difficulty interacting with that culture, the same way I would have difficulty interacting with a cheerleader or something.
 
A cursory glance at her profile pictures and description and I can see why some people would get the impression that she's trying to "sell" a geek girl image for attention.

Watching her video, though, and she seems completely genuine.

The ostracizing thing though almost certainly comes from jealousy and a sense of invasion or being taken over by people who aren't genuine.
 
Dragonzord said:
Why would anyone want to be part of 'nerd culture'. I don't think it's sexist, but it's childish as fuck
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Cause sometimes people like talking to people who share their interests on even ground?
 
Fusebox said:
No, that's nerds.
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It hardly matters but I think it's really broadly accepted that

geek= someone who obsesses over something and knows it inside and out. usually pop culture. They don't just like games. They know who made the game. They don't just like TV. They appreciate the cinematography.

nerd= someone who specifically obsesses over more intellectual endeavors. a geek who prefers science, history and or math to "softer" subjects like art and pop culture.

dork= socially awkward goof who may or may not be the above.
 
Dragonzord said:
Why would anyone want to be part of 'nerd culture'. I don't think it's sexist, but it's childish as fuck
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Interesting point, really.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption, but it really seems to me like there are a few prominent and attractive ladies out there who kind of play up the nerd angle. They write about being into "geeky stuff" in their profiles as if it's some kind of novelty. I can see why people would think they aren't really genuine. When most people are interested in technology and what not, I don't think they claim they are into "geeky stuff" and brag about being "a nerd."


Fiction said:
This. You can claim 'Oh, I am so above being a nerd or a geek.' all you want. But considering where we all are, we are kinda already immersed in that 'culture'. And being an woman who wants to just geek out (OMG the Doctor Who trailer eeee) is pretty hard sometimes.




What if we like science and tv shows?
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Why can't you just do that, though, without publicly admitting and acknowledging that what you like is "nerdy." Why attribute "nerdiness" to what you like at all?
 
As posters have said above, I can definitely see the jealousy of having both the charisma or looks as well as being just as nerdy as them, but I can also see it as fearing that all these nerdy subjects like comics or games are becoming normal, it's no longer special to you, now the cool, attractive people can like these things just as much as you. But I think they need to look at themselves and just accept that these days it can't just be the unpopular kids club. These days we can be proud of our interests more than ever and that is amazing, and whether you're into comics or video games or whatever hobby that was uncool when you were in school you're just going to have to accept that nowadays not everyone who is into it is going to be like you.

Also ladies if you ever want to discuss your geek hobbies with me, possibly over a candlelit dinner I would totally be okay with that.
 
Veezy said:
There is a vast and significant portion of White, Straight, Males in the gaming/nerd/geek/whatever you call it community. These individuals have been ostracized by the world at large throughout their life for whatever reasons. As they grew up, they became bitter.

The teenagers in this group generally aren't adult enough to understand the impact of their actions. The adults are just old and embrace the fact that they can finally pick on an outsider to their particular club.

Generally, the internet gives them a shield to not get caught. However, in groups out in public, they feel strong enough to pick on others, just like what happened to them.

It's sad, really.
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I would add to this very good post, that the isolation and social deficiencies that many nerds develop are very often self inflicted as well.

It's hard to interact with emotionally untrained people, as similar to little kids they resort to extremes instead of moderation. This makes many nerds come off as hatefull and petty, when most likely they just feel threatened or annoyed.
 
Dragonzord said:
Why would anyone want to be part of 'nerd culture'. I don't think it's sexist, but it's childish as fuck
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There's a growing divide, or at least an attempt at defining one, between 'nerd' and 'geek'. AFAIK the purported difference is that geeks represent being unafraid of saying you're a fan of something regardless of its popularity. It's a backlash against a decade of ironic, cynical hipsterism where it's only alright to act enthusiastic if done so with a sense of ironic dismissal or bitterness.

Actual nerds, meanwhile, supposedly remain the people who are consumed by the things they obsess over to the point of having no idea how to interact with people outside their niche and using it as a shield.

In gaming, I think people who are actual nerds would be the ones who come across as crazy fanboys of X game/company/subject. The geeks meanwhile, would be the enthusiast gamer with a sense of professionalism about the hobby. The former would be the ones hostile towards female geeks for instance, while the later would welcome them.

A caveat is that the nerds tend to be the obsessive compulsive complainers and the ones who indulge in a kind of narcissistic personality disorder from behind online shielding, so they may get noticed more / do more to set the tone of geekdom's community.
 
Haly said:
Cause sometimes people like talking to people who share their interests on even ground?
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Fiction said:
This. You can claim 'Oh, I am so above being a nerd or a geek.' all you want. But considering where we all are, we are kinda already immersed in that 'culture'. And being an woman who wants to just geek out (OMG the Doctor Who trailer eeee) is pretty hard sometimes.
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Do you really feel that you have to be part of a special group of people to be allowed to do that/have the chance to do that?

I mean, I like certain things that are considered "nerdy" or whatever I never got the difference between nerds, geeks, dorks, etc, but I don't feel like I need to pledge allegiance to some "culture" to participate.
 
Zefah said:
Interesting point, really.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption, but it really seems to me like there are a few prominent and attractive ladies out there who kind of play up the nerd angle. They write about being into "geeky stuff" in their profiles as if it's some kind of novelty. I can see why people would think they aren't really genuine. When most people are interested in technology and what not, I don't think they claim they are into "geeky stuff" and brag about being "a nerd."
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I think you hit it on the head there. When girls feel like they gotta go say up front that "I'm into this stuff! see, I like geeky games" It just comes off as they're trying too hard. Especially with internet stuff like youtube and twitter, I am tired of seeing that crap. Impress people with your content or knowledge. Almost every male geek who has come up with some type of successful internet thing had to work hard to build an audience, or just be really funny. Most of the time, women just get success because they have tits.

I'm sorry, but this girl, her own channel page has some drawing of her with a skimpy outfit. Sex sells, I get it, but I'm tired of that being the angle for every geek girl on youtube.

I always get reminded of that UltraNeko bitch too, who had over a million viewers on one of her videos. Another "girl geek" and it turned out she was a fake. She was just being coached by her BF at the time, and was just an actress.
 
part of this shit stems from the fact that every model or actress is basically encouraged to say, "I LOOOOVE comic books and MArio Kart!" in every interview so that terrified jerk-fucks who want women who like the exact same bullshit as them will feel safe and secure loving them. People credit Olivia Munn for the trend (two actresses I know have said that's what they've been told to model themselves after) but I can't say if she really likes the shit she claims to like or not.

Fiction said:
What if we like science and tv shows?
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Technically, you are neither since most people passively enjoy these things. However, if you obsess over them you are a nerd and a geek, since a nerd is just a specific sub-class of geek by the popular definitions I see bandied about.
So yeah, if you are a chemical engineer who enjoys their work and you also know who Rian Johnson is directing an episode of Breaking Bad you are both.

Not that it matters, because it's a lot of silly bullshit anyway. In reality, it's mostly just making shitty jokes about bacon and saying, "the cake is a lie" at an office party once a year. Fuck that shit.
 
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