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Endo Punk · Sep 18, 2012

I was watching this documentary the other day about Thailand's lady-boys and it hit me, what exactly makes a woman attractive? It usually is the physical attraction. So a guy who looks feminine or has taken Hormone replacement therapy, even gone under the knife can be just as attractive as a born female.

So GAF what do you have to say about the matter. It's definitely not wrong for one to transform themselves to how they feel inside but maybe asking another to accept such a change is too much, is it?

Devolution · Sep 18, 2012

Dude, ladyboy is not the preferred nomenclature.

Emitan · Sep 18, 2012

Ladyboy is an incredibly offensive term.

And yes I would date a trans woman.

EVOL 100% · Sep 18, 2012

Poor choice of words man.

Log4Girlz · Sep 18, 2012

No, but I would not look down upon anyone who did date a transgendered woman are an ultra-feminine male.

LabouredSubterfuge · Sep 18, 2012

If this thread doesn't get locked, does anyone want to raise me on 3 bannings?

Trin · Sep 18, 2012

Sure, why not. And I'd sure as hell never call them ladyboy.

Endo Punk · Sep 18, 2012

It is? well that was what the documentary was called. And they didn't seem to mind. Umm can we get a change because it was never my intention to offend. And what would be the suitable word?

whitehawk · Sep 18, 2012

No I wouldn't.

Log4Girlz said:
No, but I would not look down upon anyone who did date a transgendered woman are an ultra-feminine male.

Yup.

Amalthea · Sep 18, 2012

Whould you ever date the banhammer?

Devolution · Sep 18, 2012

CepPyBoy said:
It is? well that was what the documentary was called. And they didn't seem to mind. Umm can we get a change because it was never my intention to offend.

Ladyboy is a term more specified for Thailand and even then I don't think it's what you would call a nice one. What you are describing in your post could be trans women, androgynous people, cross dressers, or gender queer individuals.

Endo Punk · Sep 18, 2012

Well it's been nice. I'm truly sorry if it came off offensive -_-

Horse Detective · Sep 18, 2012

I already hate the phrase "Man child" and now you people throw this bullshit at me.

I want to go set something on fire

TheKaeptain · Sep 18, 2012

LabouredSubterfuge said:
If this thread doesn't get locked, does anyone want to raise me on 3 bannings?

2 with in the first two pages. Four overall.

Jeff Albertson · Sep 18, 2012

Let's not jump on the guy, after all it was only through this forum that I found out ladyboy was really offensive. There have been a couple of documentaries in England titled 'ladyboys' afterall

I can't say I've every seriously considered it personally id like to think I judge each person on their individual merits but I think possibly there is a stigma there which would maybe stop me which is sad really

krypt0nian · Sep 18, 2012

I personally prefer hyper masculine men (which as a good friend pointed out to me is just another form of drag), so I'm not (usually) attracted to hyper feminine men, but I celebrate anyone who does find them attractive. Someone for everyone.

Love who you love!

Stat Flow · Sep 18, 2012

You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

zoleristec · Sep 18, 2012

CepPyBoy said:
It is? well that was what the documentary was called. And they didn't seem to mind. Umm can we get a change because it was never my intention to offend. And what would be the suitable word?

Kathoey, according to Wikipedia.

Steelrain · Sep 18, 2012

Nope but more power to you if you do.

Horse Detective · Sep 18, 2012

Stat Flow said:
You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

For the record, I don't hate what the phrase means, I just hate the way the phrase sounds.

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zoukka · Sep 18, 2012

Stat Flow said:
You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

GAF smelt blood in the water. One molecyle in a qubic-kilometer is enough to drive it in feeding frenzy.

Devolution · Sep 18, 2012

Stat Flow said:
You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

Your post isn't helping. I've been explaining.

Emitan · Sep 18, 2012

Stat Flow said:
You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

I said it's an offensive term. Which it is. That's not jumping on someone, it's education.

IdreamofHIME · Sep 18, 2012

zoleristec said:
Kathoey, according to Wikipedia.

That's just as bad, that just the Thai local slang for LB.

FelixOrion · Sep 18, 2012

Stat Flow said:
You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

.

EVOL 100% · Sep 18, 2012

Stat Flow said:
You guys seriously jumping on the OP like he intended harm? Get fucking real.

Reminding him that it was a poor choice of words is jumping on him?

Mechazawa · Sep 18, 2012

I've actually thought about this more than once despite the probability that the situation would almost definitely never present itself.

And I frankly don't know. it would be some crazy fucking mental gymnastics for me if I ever faced the situation, though.

This is assuming that they're full blown transgendered.

Jzero · Sep 18, 2012

Log4Girlz said:
No, but I would not look down upon anyone who did date a transgendered woman are an ultra-feminine male.

Same.

SmokyDave · Sep 18, 2012

LabouredSubterfuge said:
If this thread doesn't get locked, does anyone want to raise me on 3 bannings?

I'll go 5.

EVOL 100% said:
Reminding him that it was a poor choice of words is jumping on him?

You aren't 'reminding' him if he never knew in the first place.

Deleted member 1235 · Sep 18, 2012

I'm pretty sure that in thailand lady boy is the word...

they treat it as 'the third sex' rather than boy or girl (I was lead to believe).

EVOL 100% · Sep 18, 2012

SmokyDave said:
You aren't 'reminding' him if he never knew in the first place.

The point still stands. If saying 'poor choice of words man' is jumping on him...

soco · Sep 18, 2012

EVOL 100% said:
The point still stands. If saying 'poor choice of words man' is jumping on him...

it's not any single reply, it's that people kept replying and saying those things. then the talk of banning.

it took one or two people, not a mob.

Devolution · Sep 18, 2012

catfish said:
I'm pretty sure that in thailand lady boy is the word...

they treat it as 'the third sex' rather than boy or girl.

Far as I know it's still pretty much a pejorative even there. Ladyboy or kathoey.

SmokyDave · Sep 18, 2012

EVOL 100% said:
The point still stands. If saying 'poor choice of words man' is jumping on him...

It isn't even a poor choice of words in this case.

The word kathoey is thought to be of Khmer origin. It is most often rendered as ladyboy in English conversation with Thais and this latter expression has become popular across South East Asia.

Remember that the word “katoey” is seen by many ladyboys as a pejorative, so we recommend using instead the terms “lady” or “ladyboy.”

First from Wiki, second from here.

There's some cultural insensitivity going on here but who can tell which direction it's going? Thai-GAF need to weigh in.

Jburton · Sep 18, 2012

Log4Girlz said:
No, but I would not look down upon anyone who did date a transgendered woman are an ultra-feminine male.

Same.

BadAss2961 · Sep 18, 2012

They can be tempting sexually, but I wouldn't date one.

Devolution · Sep 18, 2012

SmokyDave said:
It isn't even a poor choice of words in this case.

There's some cultural insensitivity going on here but who can tell which direction it's going?

Eh he's asking about trans women or effeminate men in his post. Ladyboy doesn't encompass that properly, it's slang.

DrBo42 · Sep 18, 2012

Personally, no. I wouldn't judge someone that would or does however.

SmokyDave · Sep 18, 2012

Devolution said:
Eh he's asking about trans women or effeminate men in his post. Ladyboy doesn't encompass that properly, it's slang.

"I was watching this documentary the other day about Thailand's lady-boys"

C'mon girl, read the OP!

Anyway, enough derailing from me. It is what it is.

EVOL 100% · Sep 18, 2012

soco said:
it's not any single reply, it's that people kept replying and saying those things. then the talk of banning.

it took one or two people, not a mob.

I don't think anybody really called for the OP's ban. He shouldn't be banned, he knows it can be offensive now, let's end it at that.

And in my defense I thought I was the first one posting. This thread moves fast lol.

To get on topic, I don't think I would but never say never.

Dead Man · Sep 18, 2012

Dude may have had a poor choice of words, and it is always good to educate people, but a couple posts do come off as bloodthirsty and the guy was apologetic and has asked a mod to correct it.

Anyway, back on topic. Yes, I would date a transwoman, but I don't know if I would if they had sex assignment surgery. I know transwomen hate having a penis, but I just prefer natural bodies to surgical ones. Same for breast implants, for any girl, trans, cis, or otherwise. I know we can't be friends now, SmokyDave, but I can't rock out with the implants.

/too much information

Sexual preferences are weird, and idiosyncratic.

Zeppelin · Sep 18, 2012

Devolution said:
Eh he's asking about trans women or effeminate men in his post. Ladyboy doesn't encompass that properly, it's slang.

Ehum, no? He's asking about ladyboys very specifically. Looks like you were wrong. Deal with it.

Emitan · Sep 18, 2012

SmokyDave said:
"I was watching this documentary the other day about Thailand's lady-boys"

C'mon girl, read the OP!

Anyway, enough derailing from me. It is what it is.

Unless he's asking if GAF is going to fly to Thailand or only asking GAFers in Thailand ladyboy isn't the appropriate term.

Shin Kojima · Sep 18, 2012

I personally believe words are only as offensive as you want them to be (unless there's ill intent of course). It's almost like some people WANT to get hurt by certain words.

I don't think I would date a transgendered person myself but I guess I can't say never ever. Maybe I just haven't met the right one yet.

Emitan · Sep 18, 2012

Zeppelin said:
Ehum, no? He's asking about ladyboys very specifically. Looks like you were wrong. Deal with it.

OP edited his post because he used the wrong term and now you look silly for not following the conversation. Deal with it.

SmokyDave · Sep 18, 2012

Anyway, as for my actual answer, probably not. I'm at the point in my life where I want to have children. Also, the fiancee would probably flip the fuck out if I started dating someone else.

We can still be friends Dead Man, because:

Dead Man said:
Sexual preferences are weird, and idiosyncratic.

Your dislike of implants may be weird, but I still dig ya.

Stat Flow · Sep 18, 2012

EVOL 100% said:
The point still stands. If saying 'poor choice of words man' is jumping on him...

For one, it would take a collective effort, I wasn't pointing out any single post.

And secondly, it is evident that when the OP is simply posing a question for other viewpoints and 11 posts later the OP is saying this:

CepPyBoy said:
Well it's been nice. I'm truly sorry if it came off offensive -_-

That there must've been something collectively that made him post that.

That'll be my last post on the matter, no more derailment is necessary. As for the question at hand, no I wouldn't date a transgendered woman, simply because of preference, not because I think any lesser or greater of them than a woman.

Devolution · Sep 18, 2012

SmokyDave said:
"I was watching this documentary the other day about Thailand's lady-boys"

C'mon girl, read the OP!

Anyway, enough derailing from me. It is what it is.

Zeppelin said:
Ehum, no? He's asking about ladyboys very specifically. Looks like you were wrong. Deal with it.

No he's not, he's asking in a generalized fashion. Ladyboy is slang, a pejorative, it's not really nice to call anyone that particular term or use as a transgender/transexual label. He even edited the title to reflect that.

GavinGT · Sep 18, 2012

It can't be easy for people with gender confusion. On one hand, they can get the surgery and make their body match how they feel mentally. On the other hand, it seems like they're setting themselves up for a seriously hard time finding a partner.

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