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Shadow2222 · Dec 12, 2012

The DLC announced awhile back letting you basically use the Vita as if it were a Wii U tablet controller for LittleBigPlanet 2 comes out Tuesday.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/12/littlebigplanet-2-cross-controller-pack-out-next-tuesday/

This excerpt makes it sound like this won't be the last game to do Cross-Controller.

December sees yet another awesome addition to LittleBigPlanet 2 — the Cross-Controller Pack — making LittleBigPlanet 2 the first game to support this exciting new feature!

But what is Cross-Controller? Well, Cross-Controller lets you to use PS Vita as a controller for PlayStation 3, allowing the use of PS Vita-only features, like front and rear touch, in PlayStation 3 games. More importantly, it provides a whole second screen where action can take place! This allows for an unimaginable number of new ways to play, some of which you’ll experience with the LittleBigPlanet 2 Cross-Controller Pack!

I know many people think it's simply copying the Wii U, but in all fairness, the Vita has a slightly different feature set than the Wii U Gamepad (lacks clickable analog sticks and second set of triggers/bumpers, but has rear touch and a rear camera).

So what do you guys think? Is this a worthwhile route for Sony for the near future to try and "copy" the Wii U? Or is the cost of admission (buying a Vita and PS3) too much to entice people other than those who already own both consoles?

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Dec 12, 2012

Own bought devices. It's like forging a weapon without buying it.

Duane Cunningham · Dec 12, 2012

I say copy the Wii U all you want, Sony! Let's have some Wii U/PSV3 cross platform games from third parties while we're at it.

fernoca · Dec 12, 2012

Keeping an eye out.
Street Fighter x Tekken and Ultimate MvC3 can be played with a Vita as a controller. So...I guess in here you might even see the game in the screen since they claim they're the first.

Shadow2222 · Dec 12, 2012

Duane Cunningham said:
I say copy the Wii U all you want, Sony! Let's have some Wii U/PSV3 cross platform games from third parties while we're at it.

I could see some very possible backlash from consumers if they start designing games that require such an expensive "accessory." $50 PlayStation Moves are one thing, but $199 (or higher) Vitas?

fernoca said:
Keeping an eye out.
Street Fighter x Tekken and Ultimate MvC3 can be played with a Vita as a controller. So...I guess in here you might even see the game in the screen since they claim they're the first.

Huh, really? I had no idea about those games.

And yeah, it says it is a "second screen experience," and you interact with it similarly to playing the actual LittleBigPlanet PS Vita.

Shadow2222 · Dec 12, 2012

EDIT: Accidental double post, sorry.

BigTnaples · Dec 12, 2012

Awesome. Can't wait to try this out.

Duane Cunningham · Dec 12, 2012

Shadow2222 said:
I could see some very possible backlash from consumers if they start designing games that require such an expensive "accessory." $50 PlayStation Moves are one thing, but $199 (or higher) Vitas?

Oh yeah. Well... at the very least it could be a thing like say, FIFA on Wii U has all that cool UI in the gamepad. They could implement it on PS3 as well IF you have the Vita, but if not it's just normal. Something like that?

(I guess the flaw in this example is that we're talking about EA)

chickdigger802 · Dec 12, 2012

I don't mind the 5 bucks. But how's the lag?

AirPlay and remote play aren't really optimal gaming experiences.

Duane Cunningham · Dec 12, 2012

chickdigger802 said:
I don't mind the 5 bucks. But how's the lag?

AirPlay and remote play aren't really optimal gaming experiences.

They didn't used to be, but that got fixed a while back.

donkey show · Dec 12, 2012

Hope you guys like it! :O

Shadow2222 · Dec 12, 2012

Duane Cunningham said:
Oh yeah. Well... at the very least it could be a thing like say, FIFA on Wii U has all that cool UI in the gamepad. They could implement it on PS3 as well IF you have the Vita, but if not it's just normal. Something like that?

(I guess the flaw in this example is that we're talking about EA)

That's more along the lines of what I'm thinking too. However, I did forget that the Vita does not have clickable sticks, nor a second set of triggers/bumpers.

That may hinder Cross-Controller games.

donkey show said:
Welp. Hope you guys like it! :O

I'm looking forward to it! I love that the LittleBigPlanet games have helped usher in nearly every new technology that Sony created this generation, and in a great way! I loved the Move DLC, and I'm sure I'll enjoy this.

Can you say an approximate length or amount of levels included?

JeTmAn81 · Dec 12, 2012

I actually have a Vita and LittleBigPlanet 2 (a disc copy even, not just the free PS+ version!) so maybe I will try this out. Definitely interested in more cross-controller stuff, even though it must inevitably appeal to a limited market.

Heart Attack · Dec 12, 2012

This should be free, considering that you have to own both a PS3, a PSV, and a copy of LBP2.

Oppo · Dec 12, 2012

Very curious to try it out.

I've often thought that the Vita and Wii U can sort of support each other in a sense, for developers anyways, as they can target a dual-screen design to both of those platforms if they are so inclined.

Of course, not many Vitas out there.

X05 · Dec 12, 2012

fernoca said:
Keeping an eye out.
Street Fighter x Tekken and Ultimate MvC3 can be played with a Vita as a controller. So...I guess in here you might even see the game in the screen since they claim they're the first.

Dunno about SFxT, but UMvC3 requires having both a PS3 and Vita copy of the game.
I believe the idea of "Cross-Controller" means just having the PS3 version of a supporting game.

donkey show · Dec 12, 2012

Shadow2222 said:
Can you say an approximate length or amount of levels included?

3 levels, 1 boss level, 2 mini-games, a lot of collectible content.

daoster · Dec 12, 2012

I will buy this, hopefully it'll be good.

Maybe Sony shouldn't necessarily copy the WiiU, but i would rather see the PlayStation 4 controller with a Vita like interface than a move controller...

Alec · Dec 12, 2012

I am incredibly excited for this. I hope we get a similar pack for LBPK, as well.

Guevara · Dec 12, 2012

Hmm. As an owner of both systems I'll give it a shot.

Duane Cunningham · Dec 12, 2012

donkey show said:
Hope you guys like it! :O

Hey man, I've been meaning to tell you forever that I think all the Tarsier DLC content is top notch. I haven't played LBPV yet, but I did recently get caught up on the Move and Muppet packs and I was shocked at how good the level design was. I really think they exceeded the original MM content in a lot of places.

SmithnCo · Dec 12, 2012

I'll definitely check it out. Need to play more LBP2

donkey show · Dec 12, 2012

Duane Cunningham said:
Hey man, I've been meaning to tell you forever that I think all the Tarsier DLC content is top notch. I haven't played LBPV yet, but I did recently get caught up on the Move and Muppet packs and I was shocked at how good the level design was. I really think they exceeded the original MM content in a lot of places.

Well... Mm handled Move and Supermassive handled Muppets. ^^

TTP · Dec 12, 2012

Fuck!

(Kids broke my Vita this very day)

Duane Cunningham · Dec 12, 2012

donkey show said:
Well... Mm handled Move and Supermassive handled Muppets. ^^

What, haha... Sorry about that, I thought they were both Tarsier! Oops!

RyanardoDaVinci · Dec 12, 2012

donkey show said:
3 levels, 1 boss level, 2 mini-games, a lot of collectible content.

You have a Vita, yes? Then I'm going to have to run through this with you to get all the new collectables.

donkey show · Dec 12, 2012

RyanardoDaVinci said:
You have a Vita, yes? Then I'm going to have to run through this with you to get all the new collectables.

Haha, let's hope I remember where all of them are. xD

Duane Cunningham said:
What, haha... Sorry about that, I thought they were both Tarsier! Oops!

It's all good.

TTP said:
Fuck!

(Kids broke my Vita this very day)

Oh lordy. :S

jiggles · Dec 12, 2012

TTP said:
Fuck!

(Kids broke my Vita this very day)

Then it's time to replace.

And also get a new Vita.

TTP · Dec 12, 2012

jigglywiggly said:
Then it's time to replace.

And also get a new Vita.

Why? Are new Vita models different from the early ones? I'm actually considering waiting for a revision at this point.

jiggles · Dec 12, 2012

TTP said:
Why? Are new Vita models different from the early ones? I'm actually considering waiting for a revision at this point.

No, replace the kids.

And get a working Vita.

McBradders · Dec 12, 2012

donkey show said:
Haha, let's hope I remember where all of them are. xD

It's all good.

Oh lordy. :S

HEY YOU GOT A NEW TAG!

Duffyside · Dec 12, 2012

Don't you need some new piece of hardware to play this, besides the Vita and PS3 I mean? Weren't they selling some little "Cross-Whatever" box at E3?

McBradders · Dec 12, 2012

Duffyside said:
Don't you need some new piece of hardware to play this, besides the Vita and PS3 I mean? Weren't they selling some little "Cross-Whatever" box at E3?

No, just PS3, Vita and a copy of LBP2.

Takuan · Dec 12, 2012

Shadow2222 said:
The DLC announced awhile back letting you basically use the Vita as if it were a Wii U tablet controller for LittleBigPlanet 2 comes out Tuesday.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/12/littlebigplanet-2-cross-controller-pack-out-next-tuesday/

This excerpt makes it sound like this won't be the last game to do Cross-Controller.

I know many people think it's simply copying the Wii U, but in all fairness, the Vita has a slightly different feature set than the Wii U Gamepad (lacks clickable analog sticks and second set of triggers/bumpers, but has rear touch and a rear camera).

So what do you guys think? Is this a worthwhile route for Sony for the near future to try and "copy" the Wii U? Or is the cost of admission (buying a Vita and PS3) too much to entice people other than those who already own both consoles?

I have no problem with Sony copying this particular feature. It's a good one to have.

It's bone-headed to charge for it, however.

McBradders said:
No, just PS3, Vita and a copy of LBP2.

"Just", he says! :lol

Plinko · Dec 12, 2012

I find the fact they're charging for this to be a huge joke.

Also, whoever said Remote Play's issues were "fixed" has to be joking. I'm guessing this will run fine because it's probably a specific app, but Remote Play on its own is still terribly laggy.

McBradders · Dec 12, 2012

Takuan said:
"Just", he says! :lol

:3

TTP · Dec 12, 2012

jigglywiggly said:
No, replace the kids.

Thus far my kids have broken an early Samsung 40" 720p display, two DualShock 3s, a PSP Go and now a PS Vita, so that's actually something I should consider upon entering next-gen.

Slermy · Dec 12, 2012

Awesome! Too bad I don't own a Vita yet. I'll be sure to grab this when I do though.

Anyone know when the cross-buy costume stuff is supposed to work? My Sack person in Karting wants his old clothes back.

Duffyside · Dec 12, 2012

McBradders said:
No, just PS3, Vita and a copy of LBP2.

Ah, ok. Thanks.

This will probably be free on Plus in six months.

ascii42 · Dec 12, 2012

Should be interesting. The touchscreens allowed for some cool stuff in LBPVita

thuway · Dec 12, 2012

Consider it bought Media Molecule. Here's to hoping the levels offer some meat.

Syroc · Dec 12, 2012

Duane Cunningham said:
What, haha... Sorry about that, I thought they were both Tarsier! Oops!

No, we haven't made any DLC level packs for LBP2. Only costumes.

KalBalboa · Dec 12, 2012

Can't wait to try this out.

polyh3dron · Dec 12, 2012

Yup I can do off screen play of PS All Stars Battle Royale really far away from my PS3.

Can't play NSMBU outside on my patio.

Wii U, lol

donkey show · Dec 12, 2012

McBradders said:
HEY YOU GOT A NEW TAG!

Don't be jelly.

whitehawk · Dec 12, 2012

I'm surprised Playstation All-Stars doesn't support this feature. It's the perfect game for it. I only have 1 PS3 controller so it would be handy for me.

FantasticMrFoxdie · Dec 12, 2012

Right on time for Christmas!

Yes Boss! · Dec 12, 2012

Did not even know about this...way cool. Will buy to try out!

Acquiescence · Dec 12, 2012

Well I just so happen to have a PS3, a Vita and a copy of LBP 2, so I guess I should check this out. The showing at Gamescom looked entertaining enough.

Maastricht · Dec 12, 2012

Bought. It's not just some software patch, levels were designed, music was composed ...

Hope it's good.

As for someone who worried about lag, for the stuff that has separate Vita screen space things I imagine tge vita is rendering rather than receiving a stream, so then it's as lag free as using the dualshock.

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