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Mike Pondsmith discusses what makes Cyberpunk, says Deus Ex isn't it

Rock Paper Shotgun has mined some interesting nuggets from the mind of Pondsmith:

He’s been trying to find Cyberpunk a loving virtual home for years, but – by and large – his search has just been a series of sobering false starts.

“The only one that was outstanding was a cellphone-based game done in the mid 2000′s by a Spanish company called Arasaka’s Quest,” he explained to RPS. “It really got the feel. Many of the other attempts died when the developers couldn’t pull together enough funding, or pull off the technology, or more importantly, made it pretty clear from the outset that they didn’t know the Cyberpunk world and pretty much just wanted to paste the name on something else they had in development.”

“Cyberpunk 2020 is about key places, characters and technologies,” he said. “You have to have characters like Morgan, Johnny Silverhand and Alt’; they’re fan faves that have generated tons of fan fiction. You can’t have Cyberpunk 2020 without the evil ninja-corp Arasaka and it’s paranoid corporate heads. Places like the Afterlife; the Forlorn Hope – these are the sites where a million adventures started in so many player’s own games. CD Projekt’s team are fans, and they get that these things are important; that they make Cyberpunk what it is. They remember things I’ve forgotten about my own world sometimes.”

“My task has been to extrapolate what has happened since the 4th Corporate War in 2024 all the way up to the 2077 timeline. The biggest issue is explaining how the technology has not evolved far more than 50 years would actually allow. I’ve been working this out as a videogame for years, actually. I sometimes consider my time on Matrix Online as a good prep for this project, but [Cyberpunk owner] R.Tal was actually involved in an official Cyberpunk 2020 MMO back in the late 90′s, and we had to work out many of the issues back then. We have tons more tools to work with now, and the ability to make sandbox worlds that accurately reflect the elements of tabletop game play.”

But being a good game and a good cyberpunk game are two very different things in his eyes. He explained:

“I played the original Deus Ex and enjoyed it a lot. Warren Spector is a master at layering complex plots and inferences. But Deus Ex always felt more like a conspiracy game than a cyberpunk game to me. Mirror’s Edge is great, but too clean. System Shock and Oni [from Bungie] are also good. Perfect Dark. Ghost in the Shell. Matrix. And Grand Theft Auto 3 is basically cyberpunk minus the hardware.”

Via RPS.
 
It wasn't, System Shock 1 was much more Cyberpunk.

Deus Ex was more like Future Noir. I don't see how GTA3 counts at all.. it was GTA2 that was set in the future.
 

Woorloog

Banned
The guy forgot that consipiracy is usually a big part of cyberpunk genre.
Deus Ex is cyberpunk, can't get much closer than that.
Mirror's Edge, on the other hand, while having a world governed by the big brother is not cyberpunk...
And calling GTA3 cyberpunk? Lol no.
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
Yeah DX was always more Sci-Fi than Cyber Punk IMO.


Still disappointed we didn't get a Ghost in the Shell game this gen. I know there's that MMO coming up but I hate MMO's. there's always hope for next gen I guess... Especially if the new series is a hit.
 

Tokubetsu

Member
He already sorta brought this up in that one trailer. His idea about cyberpunk is less trans-humanism stuff/ideas and more black market focused tech usage and creepy shadow fluff. Less ideology talk, more oh god I burned out my deck who do I have to kill/rob to replace it.

It's that criminal underbelly aspect to it why he brought up GTA.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Yeah DX was always more Sci-Fi than Cyber Punk IMO.

Cyberpunk is a sub-genre of science fiction. There is no just "scifi" genre. Space opera, cyberpunk, hard sciece fiction, planetary romance, others...
DX is cyberpunk, even if just a little bit. Mega corpts, conspiracy, transhumanism, hacking... sure fits.
 
I think Deus Ex is pretty cyber-punk. Actually I think Human Revolution is probably cyberpunkier than the original. It has a bigger focus on class, poverty, oppression of disenfranchised peoples, urban sprawl, etc..
 

Dennis

Banned
What is he going to say?

"Deus Ex really nailed that Cyberpunk feel so I guess this new game I am promoting is less special"
 
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