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Sony: We will not block used games on PS4

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...gamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games

"So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it?

"Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:

"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?""

Fuck yeah! Yoshida is so awesome.
 
YES YES YES YES YES

Day one purchase at the right price. I'll be fascinated to see if MS goes this route, as every insider on GAF confirmed no used games.
 
Sounds good enough for me!
No the only thing that needs to be confirmed is if that thing is region free, then I'll be there. For one gillion united states dollars, if that is what it takes.
 
Now: 'used games can play on PS4'

A month before launch: 'when you buy an activation code'

I just can't imagine that only Microsoft would implement such a system. Surely publishers want this?
 
Not suprised. I've had conversations about this with friends - how would they even "block" the pre-owned games? Like the actual discs themselvs, how would the system know any difference from a pre-owned version of BF4 from a spanking new copy of BF4.
 
I feel this will be arguably the biggest distinguishing factor between the two consoles, were Microsoft not to follow suit. If they do not, my choice is made by default; PS4
 
"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"

This does not mean used games are not blocked. All it tells us is that used games will run. It could very well be after a re-activation fee is charged to the new owner and the publisher gets more coin.

If he had to ask his PR person on what the answer was then it CLEARLY is a question they have prepared for and have a PR friendly answer for. If the answer was 'yeah, sure. Why wouldn't used games work?' then they wouldn't have needed a PR person to step in.
 
mocoworm said:
"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"

This does not mean used games are not blocked. All it tells us is that used games will run. It could very well be after a re-activation fee is charged to the new owner and the publisher gets more coin.

If he had to ask his PR person on what the answer was then it CLEARLY is a question they have prepared for and have a PR friendly answer for. If the answer was 'yeah, sure. Why wouldn't used games work?' then they wouldn't have needed a PR person to step in.
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Basically, the same as this gen? Sounds fair to me.

waypoetic said:
Not suprised. I've had conversations about this with friends - how would they even "block" the pre-owned games? Like the actual discs themselvs, how would the system know any difference from a pre-owned version of BF4 from a spanking new copy of BF4.
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Apparently, Sony discovered some 'offline' method.
 
mocoworm said:
This does not mean used games are not blocked. All it tells us is that used games will run. It could very well be after a re-activation fee is charged to the new owner and the publisher gets more coin.
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This hypothesis assumes there's an activation process at all.

davious88 said:
Basically, the same as this gen? Sounds fair to me.
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Except the lack of an Online Pass doesn't entirely prevent using a used game.
 
davious88 said:
Basically, the same as this gen? Sounds fair to me.



Apparently, Sony discovered some 'offline' method.
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No I think the concern is that the activation code might block more than just online gameplay. Its a little odd in how he says it but I do not think either Sony or MS will block used games.
 
Still doesn't sound like a clear and definitive answer. Will the game discs have any sort of tie to the PSN account or not, would You need to pay something extra to play a game that's been tied to a different PSN account. Being possible is not the same thing as "same as PS3".
 
the rumors of used games come up everytime with next geni fully believe ms wont be blocking them either
 
JaseC said:
This hypothesis assumes there's an activation process at all.



Except the lack of an Online Pass doesn't entirely prevent using a used game.
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Regardless, it's good way of meeting them half way. You pay £10 for a used game, and £5 for online activation - this seems fair unless they charge ridiculous amounts for activation.
 
if the PS4 never goes online so never downloaded an "invalid"-code, how will it know the game is used? it wouldnt bother me to be offline with the PS4, though i can imagine it won't be that easy
 
ibun said:
if the PS4 never goes online so never downloaded an "invalid"-code, how will it know the game is used? it wouldnt bother me to be offline with the PS4, though i can imagine it won't be that easy
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They have a patent for using embedded RFID chips on the disc.
 
mocoworm said:
"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"

This does not mean used games are not blocked. All it tells us is that used games will run. It could very well be after a re-activation fee is charged to the new owner and the publisher gets more coin.

If he had to ask his PR person on what the answer was then it CLEARLY is a question they have prepared for and have a PR friendly answer for. If the answer was 'yeah, sure. Why wouldn't used games work?' then they wouldn't have needed a PR person to step in.
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yoshida seemed pretty clear on this. keep in mind english is not his first language.

"Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."
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The expectation is that if you buy a game on disc, you can use it anywhere. bring it to a friend's house, to other consoles you might own, loan it to someone, whatever. The PS4 is not going to change that expectation that owners already have. charging just to play a used game would change that.

They have a patent for using embedded RFID chips on the disc.
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full article confirms that patent is totally unrelated to the PS4 and will not be used.
 
Manmademan said:
yoshida seemed pretty clear on this. keep in mind english is not his first language.



The expectation is that if you buy a game on disc, you can use it anywhere. bring it to a friend's house, to other consoles you might own, loan it to someone, whatever. The PS4 is not going to change that expectation that owners already have. charging just to play a used game would change that.
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Yes, that's an interesting point he makes, however could it be possible to lock a used game to a user account?
 
"So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it?

"Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:

"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"
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Just by the wording (mainly the "can"), and slight hesitance, I get the feeling that's not the last time this topic will come up regarding this system.
 
Good. Guess this rumor was BS just like when the PS3 was on the horizon.

Just need a confirmation that "always online" won't be mandatory and basic online will remain free.
 
SykoTech said:
Good. Guess this rumor was BS just like when the PS3 was on the horizon.

Just need a confirmation that "always online" won't be mandatory and basic online will remain free.
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If you read that interview, he states that the PS4 can go in an offline mode.

Shuhei Yoshida You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected. The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita.

Eurogamer: Are all of those things optional? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?

Shuhei Yoshida Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.
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By anti-social he obviously just means those who want a single-player experience. Nothing offensive.
 
Seems like a smart decision. Honestly would have been shocked if they had went through with blocking used games.

SykoTech said:
Good. Guess this rumor was BS just like when the PS3 was on the horizon.

Just need a confirmation that "always online" won't be mandatory and basic online will remain free.
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There's another thread somewhere (board has been moving fast) with their quote saying you can stay offline and never connect to anyone.
 
So glad the gaunlet has been thrown down on this issue. I don't see how any competitors (naming no names...) can attempt to block used sales now.
 
Baleoce said:
If you read that interview, he states that the PS4 can go in an offline mode.



By anti-social he obviously just means those who want a single-player experience. Nothing offensive.
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Fjordson said:
Seems like a smart decision. Honestly would have been shocked if they had went through with blocking used games.


There's another thread somewhere (board has been moving fast) with their quote saying you can stay offline and never connect to anyone.
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Yeah, just saw the other thread a second ago.

Quite pleased.
 
It raises an interesting point now. If MS have promised this anti-used game system to publishers but Sony haven't and they are all still on board, what do MS get out of it?
 
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M$, the balls' in your court now.
 
Ceeeeeeeeeeelebrate good times


Come on!

I knew it, I knew it. I can still borrow my games to a family member and close friends.
 
zomgbbqftw said:
It raises an interesting point now. If MS have promised this anti-used game system to publishers but Sony haven't and they are all still on board, what do MS get out of it?
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Games? Publishers want used-games blocked, this decision by SONY is great for customers, but can bite them in the ass regarding publishers.
 
Can you play them... for the small one-time fee of $9.99, or can you play them, period? Also still wondering what's up with online mp.

PetrCobra said:
Still doesn't mean you won't have to connect just to validate your new game online.
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Yeah I mean, dont wanna be all party pooper, but I think it's pretty healthy to stay a bit skeptical until proven otherwise. It all looks ok so far, but they still have a ways to go to convince me they're not trying to fuck me over.
 
mocoworm said:
"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"

This does not mean used games are not blocked. All it tells us is that used games will run. It could very well be after a re-activation fee is charged to the new owner and the publisher gets more coin.

If he had to ask his PR person on what the answer was then it CLEARLY is a question they have prepared for and have a PR friendly answer for. If the answer was 'yeah, sure. Why wouldn't used games work?' then they wouldn't have needed a PR person to step in.
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Or they were expecting Microsoft to reveal their plans and then counter with their own policies to put Microsoft on the spot. When pressed to answer the issue he might have asked to the PR if it was the moment to disclose their position in used games.
 
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