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"GTFO: A Film About Women in Gaming" on Kickstarter
- Thread starter maquiladora
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NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Is this gonna turn out like that YouTube Sarkisian documentary series?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Someone figured out the formula
'Kickstarter' + 'Women in Gaming' = Success
'Kickstarter' + 'Women in Gaming' = Success
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I know there's a legitimate issue in the gaming industry about woman being sexualized and/or treated like crap, but damn..... I'm sick of this.
Aquamarine
Member
As a woman, I know I probably should care more about this, but after that whole Susan + $829 debacle and the massive Anita Sarkeesian debate, I'm pretty damn sick of hearing about the subject of female exploitation and gaming.
Sounds more like how real women are treated in the industry/ as fans of video games, rather than sarkeesian's stereotype in video games shtick.
maquiladora
Member
This seems like a single documentary film, not a series.
So it might actually be good and something worth spending some time to watch?
She didn't do anything most of us couldn't have done, at least not with the first episode. The only thing is that she has is an agenda and a lot of money.
You really shouldn't let two incidents like this get you down. It's important stuff and there's nothing wrong with people investigating it.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Another day, another Kickstarter.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
yeah, I'm pretty conflicted about it... makes me feel bad because this is a real problem!
but damn, there's a limit of how many Kotaku articles and how many "company changed their game to be more pro-women(doing something stupid instead of actually being pro-women)" I can take.
Me too...and my wife. I showed her and she rolled her eyes.
Depends on how in depth she decides to go. I'd like to think it'd focus on the positives and negatives...but there's just too much of a story in focusing on the negatives.
Edit: It's too bad that the proverbial well has been poisoned. The image of women in gaming, as gamers and as people related to gaming and gamers does need to be focused on, but the attempts that have been made thus far are so awkward and off putting that people don't even want to talk about it anymore in any sort of meaningful way.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I wish people would donate their money more sensibly to issues like this and other issues.
Tokyo Rain
Member
The title of the thread (and the Kickstarter for that matter) are a bit misleading considering the following:
GTFO is a film exposing the harassment of women in video games. It features gamers, bloggers, scholars, developers, and other experts.
This is an equality issue and not highlighting/promoting women thing. It would be nice if Shannon either renamed her project or decided not to skew it and literally focus on women in the game industry with sexism being a portion of it.
GTFO is a film exposing the harassment of women in video games. It features gamers, bloggers, scholars, developers, and other experts.
This is an equality issue and not highlighting/promoting women thing. It would be nice if Shannon either renamed her project or decided not to skew it and literally focus on women in the game industry with sexism being a portion of it.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm never giving a cent to anything like this.
Anita is pretty much a fraud, her first video was awful and had no production values. I hope that if this film gets funded it's taken seriously.
Considering the subject material, it fits.
Honestly, if the first two minutes of the movie isn't an XBLA audio montage of trogs just screaming at women because a woman is present, they should just go back to square one.
I agree, Anita's first video was a huge joke.
But this Shannon Sun-Higginson actually seems like she's putting some legitimate effort into this issue.
I'm skeptical, but after watching the Kickstarter video for this I certainly have a higher opinion of Shannon Sun-Higginson than Anita Sarkeesian.
I won't be backing, but I hope something worthwhile comes out of this. Because there is room for legitimate feminist criticism of the games industry and the people who play games, but Sarkeesian has not yet proved that she is up to the task. Maybe Sun-Higginson is.
John Rabbit
Banned
this issue deserves a sharply presented, well-researched, and well-funded piece of documentation.
this is not it.
sarkeesian is not it.
kickstarter is fucking dumb.
this is not it.
sarkeesian is not it.
kickstarter is fucking dumb.
Ivan A Nguyen
Member
Good. Any issue worth tackling needs more than one voice. Don't let this conversation die.
Same story.....they will focus on negatives and shame gaming culture, because some women don't feel welcome.
Look at the title of the project this won't point out pros and cons. This will be another agenda piece. Just my opinion after reading the title and reading she plays only casually.
Issue overall is very important one.
Look at the title of the project this won't point out pros and cons. This will be another agenda piece. Just my opinion after reading the title and reading she plays only casually.
Issue overall is very important one.
SouthernDragon
Member
I wonder if there's a way to contribute not through KS.
My first thought.
In what mind is that a sharp, appropriate, poignant title for a documentary about sexism. It's not even a good title for a documentary about video game production. It's just trite shite.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I'm going to make a Kickstarter for a documentary about opportunists making Kickstarters after a Kickstarter takes in a lot of money. It's going to be called LMAO
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
sounds good, I just don't know if calling your video GTFO is going to help the whole "take me seriously plz"
I've seen several Kickstarter projects that accept donations through other means, send them an email
partyphone
Banned
Good!
Aquamarine
Member
Kickstarter said:
I wish she had greater ties to the industry beyond "casual gamer."
It needs to change, I agree.
maquiladora
Member
Except it's only about 50% funded with 10 days left.
dream
Member
I kind of agree with you, but at the same time I wonder if fresh eyes might provide a different take on this instead of just rehashing the same tired arguments that are repeated ad nauseam.
RPGCrazied
Member
Geeze, seems so easy nowadays to create a kickstarter and get funding.
Yes, everyone already knows what happens if you are a girl and you speak into the microphone during an Xbox Live match of Call of Duty. Not groundbreaking material there, I hope she has something more interesting to say.
You know... maybe something that only an educated feminist would be able to declare? I've explicitly stated before that my problem with Sarkeesian is that her video series, at least the very first episode, does not look like the work of a respected feminist who has properly researched the subject, it seems more like someone who made a lot of money on the internet and then did a lot of Wikipedia reading for popular video games and tried to connect them to female tropes in gaming.
It'll either blow up once people start bickering about it or we've really reached the saturation point.
Games-oriented websites are the only settings I've seen this subject actually brought up. Spending a lot of time at sites like this, it's easy to get a skewed perspective on what's common knowledge.
Ingueferroque
Banned
...she doesn't play games?
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