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CrunchinJelly · May 20, 2013

Paul Thurrott: https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/336475059604570112

A couple of Xbox news tidbits ahead of the launch... Illumiroom will be part of Tues event, subsidized Xbox v.Next model has been scrapped.

SolsticeZero · May 20, 2013

Glad to hear no subsidizing. I hate to see people get ripped off like that. Illumiroom sounds nifty, but I'm not sure how often I'd actually use it.

Nero3000 · May 20, 2013

@thurrott said:
A couple of Xbox news tidbits ahead of the launch... Illumiroom will be part of Tues event, subsidized Xbox v.Next model has been scrapped.

Interesting.

iMax · May 20, 2013

Nero3000 said:
Interesting.

Holy shit.

Septimus · May 20, 2013

This guy is usually pretty accurate, right?

If that's the case I see it as $399 bare minimum for the lowest end console.

kevcampbell · May 20, 2013

Does that mean we will see a coffee table too?

DragonSworne · May 20, 2013

I thought Illumiroom was completely cancelled?

Paul needs to check his sources better.

zakislam · May 20, 2013

Didn't they say Illimuroom won't be ready or something for launch?

daxgame · May 20, 2013

not surprised one bit

SpaceHobo · May 20, 2013

He still just guessing then.

Courage · May 20, 2013

Septimus said:
This guy is usually pretty accurate, right?

If that's the case I see it as $399 bare minimum for the lowest end console.

We'll know tomorrow if he's accurate, but I hope he's right on this one. No subsidization probably means a more competitive price.

valkillmore · May 20, 2013

DragonSworne said:
I thought Illumiroom was completely cancelled?

Paul needs to check his sources better.

Where's your source for the cancellation?

bloodyroarxx · May 20, 2013

DragonSworne said:
I thought Illumiroom was completely cancelled?

Paul needs to check his sources better.

This guy has the best sources

Katana_Strikes · May 20, 2013

zakislam said:
Didn't they say Illimuroom won't be ready or something for launch?

Neither was Kinect but we still got it.

Interesting times.

Wow me MS!

GANGSTERKILLER · May 20, 2013

Illumiroom could be cool but do you need a projector? I won't buy that.

It needs to come with the next Xbox. Or bust.

glaurung · May 20, 2013

I still contend that IllumiRoom is a poorly devised and probably impractical, plus hard to set up correctly.

I foresee as much life for it as the old GameAnywhere and SmartGlass.

PatientRain · May 20, 2013

If the subsidized Xbox was real - and I believe it was - I think scrapping it is a good idea. Contracts and monthly pricing for a console are places I'm glad the industry isn't settling into.

SparkTR · May 20, 2013

Unexpected, I thought a subsidized console would be the key to the mass market this time around. Now it's either expensive hardware or falling back into the red. Neither are desirable situations considering what's been happening in the industry.

statham · May 20, 2013

Solstice said:
Glad to hear no subsidizing. I hate to see people get ripped off like that. Illumiroom sounds nifty, but I'm not sure how often I'd actually use it.

but its not a ripoff.

Various Artists · May 20, 2013

Didnt he also start the rumor about the TMNT game made by Rocksteady? Not sure how reliable he is.

bloodyroarxx · May 20, 2013

glaurung said:
I still contend that IllumiRoom is a poorly devised and probably impractical, plus hard to set up correctly.

I foresee as much life for it as the old GameAnywhere and SmartGlass.

I totally forgot about SmartGlass, did that go anywhere?

Tobor · May 20, 2013

If they really dumped the subsidized model, it's great news for Sony.

U2NUMB · May 20, 2013

I am very curious as to how these two gaming giants will both go after people this fall. I plan on buying both but most people wont.. MS has the ability if they really want to drop the price to where Sony can not match but somehow I doubt they will.

Gonna be a fun year!

Doug Heffernan · May 20, 2013

I always thought illumiroom was still pretty far off.

Seems odd that they would be showing an expensive projector add-on at a console reveal.

I don't trust Thurott on this one.

bebop242 · May 20, 2013

no subsidized model? Seems like a mistake to me. Figured that would be a slam dunk for MS.

MikeE21286 · May 20, 2013

Illumiroom is bad ass.

It will not be there for launch I'm guessing though.

It will be something along the lines of what Sony talked about with Gaikai "this is what we want/plan to do"

Uno Venova · May 20, 2013

That would be funny since people were convinced it would never ever be showed so soon, or even come to the Xbox. Well, try an Alan Wake demo with it MS.

THE:MILKMAN · May 20, 2013

Nero3000 said:
Interesting.

Very interesting. And I wouldn't call scrapping the sub model a "tidbit".

I wonder now how much he really knows.

Somnid · May 20, 2013

Illumiroom is definitely one of their more interesting pieces. Hopefully it can be cheap and various room friendly.

bloodyroarxx said:
I totally forgot about SmartGlass, did that go anywhere?

Seems dead already to me.

bloodyroarxx · May 20, 2013

Leviathin25 said:
Didnt he also start the rumor about the TMNT game made by Rocksteady? Not sure how reliable he is.

No that was Paul Gale, Thurrott is the guy for MS rumors most of what he says is always true

DaBuddaDa · May 20, 2013

I could see the subsidized model scrapped for launch but get unveiled in a year or two after all the systems get the kinks worked out and they have more time to plan the path the console generation will take.

CrunchinJelly · May 20, 2013

bebop242 said:
no subsidized model? Seems like a mistake to me. Figured that would be a slam dunk for MS.

Same here. Just releasing at $499 seems too high.

Canis lupus · May 20, 2013

Illumiroom trailer looked pretty cool.

Pie and Beans · May 20, 2013

Are they really going to take up some of tomorrows event with some gimmicky expensive peripheral already? I mean christ. Unless the thing is built into Kinect 2 driving the price up even further, its going to be a hard sell to announce a new expensive console alongside another $200 peripheral that makes the edge of your living room bathed in green light while you ogle NEXT GEN GRASS SHADERS.

Y2Kev · May 20, 2013

Huge news if both consoles now start at 499.

MikeE21286 · May 20, 2013

Somnid said:
Seems dead already to me.

Kinda like Windows tablets

TouchMyBox · May 20, 2013

That rumoured subsidy didn't sound like enough of a rip-off to actually happen. So not too surprising, plus why would they subsidize something at launch when it's going to sell-out at any price point initially?

It would be surprising if the Illumiroom thing is actually significant.

DidntKnowJack · May 20, 2013

Could someone please shed light on what Illumiroom is?

(Stupid pun, but I'm serious)

tranciful · May 20, 2013

Does anybody really think Illumiroom will be impactful? Seems to gimmicky to me. Especially with Oculus Rift available.

Father_Brain · May 20, 2013

Non-subsidized model had better be $400 or under, or it's in for a rough start.

Phonomezer · May 20, 2013

bloodyroarxx said:
I totally forgot about SmartGlass, did that go anywhere?

I'd always considered SmartGlass on 360 a test run for next gen.

nelsonroyale · May 20, 2013

The illumniroom thing looks like some quite cool tech, but I think from a gaming perspective has pretty limited appeal. Seeing the tech presentation...I don't think I want to feel like I am in an Ibiza club when playing games.

Kimawolf · May 20, 2013

Yeah so no subsidized model, I bet the price will be around 500 dollars.

glaurung · May 20, 2013

bloodyroarxx said:
I totally forgot about SmartGlass, did that go anywhere?

I think there were applications for Halo 4 and Forza Horizon (not sure).

I have no idea whether they manifested as iOS apps. And ain't there noone buying a Surface for stupid-ass stats and gimmicks.

The major problem with IllumiRoom is that it requires an additional device and that needs power. Setting it up in any non-MS ideal conditions living room would be a knightmare.

Kabuki Quantum Lover · May 20, 2013

Really? That was unexpected.

danwarb · May 20, 2013

Holy shit sauce! Sold.

Illumiroom is something awesome, I hope it isn't a really expensive add-on though.

SparkTR · May 20, 2013

Y2Kev said:
Huge news if both consoles now start at 499.

Well, it would make that $99 360 make a whole lot more sense. I wonder how Sony will handle it. Regardless, I'm expecting a whole lot more cross-gen games for the first few years.

plainr_ · May 20, 2013

Seemed like a bad deal anyway.

Einbroch · May 20, 2013

Illumiroom looked cool, but hardly a #gamechanger.

derFeef · May 20, 2013

DidntKnowJack said:
Could someone please shed light on what Illumiroom is?

(Stupid pun, but I'm serious)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGGMv9RnJIA

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