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To be updated during the conference with news info.

Windows (RT) 8.1

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Wednesday 26th June, 9AM PDT
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Livestream

Liveblogs

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Thursday 27th June, 9AM PDT
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Livestream

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  • Windows 8.1 Public Preview
  • Windows RT 8.1 Public Preview
  • Xbox One application story
  • Xbox Media services
  • Lots of cloud stuff
  • Lots of enterprise stuff

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  • Surface RT v.Next (8 inch/Snapdragon processor)
  • Surface Pro v.Next (Haswell)
  • Windows Phone 8.1 (lol)
 
Really excited for the 8.1 preview for my surface RT, 50/50 snap is what I always wanted. Hopefully we'll also see the surface pro haswell edition, but I doubt it.
 
SCHUEY F1 said:
Definitely going to put my preview on the laptop. Hopefully the wait won't be too long for the official release.

edit: Sessions list is up

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013
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All the Windows Phone one don't have 8.1 on it, so more evidence that we wont see it.

Puling off some interesting titles:

Making your desktop apps shine on high- DPI Displays
Building media streaming apps and sites without plug-ins using MPEG-DASH
Using Bing platform controls to build great Windows apps
Building Windows Second Screen Experiences using Xbox SmartGlass
Stories from Building the New Windows Mail App
Windows Phone: App-to-App Communications
 
Somnid said:
Oh shit WebGL in IE11! That means it's meaningfully standard. I wonder what changed their mind?
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MS finally faced the fact they can't set whatever new standards they want thanks to Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome.

Nobody likes it as at we've already seen its worst; you will get a IE6.

Everyone wins.

That's why there is always this hatred in the developer community as Microsoft has this history of dumping the old whenever new is brought in, and everyone has to learn new.
 
lol I don't know if anything more than 8.1 is happening tomorrow and if I did I probably wouldn't be hinting at it. Regardless of its reception, it's always exciting to see months/years of work be released to the world. There's a lot of cool stuff in 8.1 too that hasn't been discussed yet, and some small stuff not necessarily worthy of blog posts or caught in leaks.
 
dLMN8R said:
lol I don't know if anything more than 8.1 is happening tomorrow and if I did I probably wouldn't be hinting at it. Regardless of its reception, it's always exciting to see months/years of work be released to the world. There's a lot of cool stuff in 8.1 too that hasn't been discussed yet, and some small stuff not necessarily worthy of blog posts or caught in leaks.
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I wonder if we will see more of the XBOX One.

MS has really not talked about how its introduction will affect Windows.
 
claviertekky said:
MS finally faced the fact they can't set whatever new standards they want thanks to Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome.

Nobody likes it as at we've already seen its worst; you will get a IE6.

Everyone wins.
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Oh you mean like that IE6 box model they had to reimplement back into standard CSS because it made more sense? The irony is Mozilla and Chrome constantly do the same thing, Chrome especially because of developer support. MS's proposal for WebRTC was a much better one but because Google already has parts of it unlocked in the browser it's already adopted before dissent sets in.
 
I hope MS will make good decisions. Windows 8.1, revamp of apps (Bing, Xbox Music, etc.), Oracle partnership in database software applications and Windows reorganization... hopefully things will turn out well! I'm ready to get my hands dirty with VS again.

Hopefully, we will see new updates on the Xbox One (self-publishing, new similar XNA framework) or even a new Surface Pro iteration with Haswell. Not to mention, Nokia is releasing a new flagship WP8 device on the 11th of July.

I also can't wait on Andrew Kim's impact on Xbox's design.

The Next Microsoft
 
All I want is an Update 3 for Visual Studio that fixes their C++ STL implementation to support the features they already released in their compiler preview over half a year ago.
 
-Pyromaniac- said:
when is their next event? The one that will be more hardware focused? Or has will it randomly be announced in the fall when every other event is?
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Original Surface had its own event in like August or September from what I remember. At some point they will probably call an event for that. They'll still need to schedule one for Windows Phone 8.1 as well
 
PG2G said:
Original Surface had its own event in like August or September from what I remember. At some point they will probably call an event for that. They'll still need to schedule one for Windows Phone 8.1 as well
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bahh the hardware is the only thing I care about.

It's funny I use windows 8 and I don't even give a shit about 8.1. Probably because I never ever use the metro interface and the start button seems like a pointless thing.

Hopefully there's somethingggggg.
 
PG2G said:
Original Surface had its own event in like August or September from what I remember. At some point they will probably call an event for that. They'll still need to schedule one for Windows Phone 8.1 as well
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The original Surface was announced on June 12th 2012. But before the event, absolutely no one knew what it was for. So if new devices are announced, it'll probably be similar in that no one knows the event is happening until shortly before it happens (though obviously the same level of secrecy won't be as effective)
 
Water said:
All I want is an Update 3 for Visual Studio that fixes their C++ STL implementation to support the features they already released in their compiler preview over half a year ago.
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They're won't be a C++ update for 2012. New C++11 stuff will be in Visual Studio 2013. Maybe they'll even increase the C++ IDE lag they introduced in 2010 if we're "lucky".

Brian Harry MS said:
@Jesper, I'm not going to dwell on this but clearly there's a lot of interest in C++ and you've articulated your frustration reasonably well so I feel it deserves a response. First, I don't work on the C++ team and it's a bit tenuous for me to speak for them but I have talked to them about it and can share some thoughts. They understand that C++ 11 support it important. They hear the feedback. They weren't able to get in in VS 2012 (and I think we all regret it) but that's that. So, they released a CTP a few months after VS 2012 shipped to give people a preview. There was conversation of putting it into a Visual Studio 2012 Update, however, the feeling was that, given the nature and magnitude of the changes and type of testing cycle an Update affords, the probability of serious regressions was too high. So the decision was made to roll those capabilities into VS 2013 instead. As we get more experience with Updates will that kind of risk assessment change - I strongly believe so. Knowing then what we know now, would we have made that decision differently, I don't know but I doubt it. You can be confident there will be C++ 11 improvements in VS 2013. I'm also confident that it won't include everything everyone wants. I don't think it's hard to say that our C++ compiler is further behind the standard than we want and we are discussing what we can do to change that.
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I love watching a lot of the build stuff even though I'm not a developer, I find it very interesting. At the very least I'll be watching the keynotes.
 
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