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Sony on PS4: Not really concerned with more powerful PC tech
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The Maverick
Member
As they should be.
ShyGuy0504
Member
They've never been concerned with it before, so this really isn't a surprise.
You can debate things like resolution and performance, PC games like FEAR were better than anything on consoles from day one, but Crysis was only a year after PS3 launched, and from then on PCs were undeniably at a huge advantage, but this console generation didn't really even take off till 2007.
Superior PC tech isn't going to be impacting I'd imagine, it hasn't been before.
Superior PC tech isn't going to be impacting I'd imagine, it hasn't been before.
BronsonLee
Member
Pretty much.
The console cycle always is:
Consoles are more powerful for mainstream people when they come out...for like 6 months
The rest is all PC POWA
Probably less here since these basically are straight up PCs now
Pretty much.
For 6 months?
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Gaara works for Sony?
metareferential
Member
Today's news are boring xD
Of course they are not concerned.
But this new generation is different, as consoles will be massively outperformed on dayone.
Not that it changes anything, that is.
Of course they are not concerned.
But this new generation is different, as consoles will be massively outperformed on dayone.
Not that it changes anything, that is.
How much does it cost to overpower next gen consoles and how many people have PCs that strong?
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Why would Sony care about Wakanda.
metareferential
Member
Kocolino67
Member
It's their job to be not concerned. But when they are at home and alone, they shiver - or happy with their hard earned money.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Well what else can they say, that they're going to delay and redesign the specs even higher because PC is still more powerful?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Not really. People with $1000 cards are kinda nutty and rare.
Being Kazekage only pays for so many bills lol.
As for PCs and consoles, we can argue strength and specs all we want, but at the end of the day, Xbone/PS4/Wii U are going to dominate the video game landscape for the next few years and the industry will have no choice but to recognize them or fall to the Mobile wayside. Developers for each company will push their respective consoles to the limits and deliver mind-blowing experiences that can't be experienced elsewhere. Yeah, the consoles are free to PC, but when you have the games from Nintendo, Sony, and MS that you can't get on PC, who cares really? Certainly not the consumers lining up to buy PS4/Xbone.
I agree, it's pretty normal to think that way.
yeahe, you need a 1000$ card to outperform the consoles...
HD7970 cost 300$/250, easily enough to outperform the new consoles.
people with $180 cards are less rare.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
The 'gaming PCs and consoles are competitors' spiel is an old wives tale. I cover the digital entertainment space for a hedge fund and PC gaming is a tiny part of my job relative to consoles and (increasingly) mobile devices. The only real area I look at closely are MMOs. PCs and consoles do not really compete for the same money. The games that do best on PC are all games that aren't available on consoles like RTSs, MMOs and MOBAs (ironically games that do not need monster hardware). Games released on both PC and consoles sell many times more copies on consoles - even the increasingly obsolete current generation ones. The majority of the non competitive hardcore PC gamer demographic are hardcore gamers period. They likely own one or more consoles in addition to their gaming rig and are 'console gamers' just as much as they are 'PC gamers'. Valve's announcements notwithstanding, PC gaming has enormous cost, complexity and piracy hurdles to overcome before it can be considered a viable 'competitor' to the consoles.
You don't need a $1000 GPU to beat a 1.3TFLOP and 1.8TFLOP GPU.
We had 2TFLOP GPUs 4 years ago in the PC world for $350. Of course, that's just raw computational performance, the ones in the consoles are better, more efficient, they have better more efficient architectures, they'll get a lot more out of that 1.8TFLOP GPU than that 4 year old GPU, but please don't be one of those and perpetuate these myths, the consoles aren't magical.
it's ok that the consoles can't beat a PC with a huge TDP budget in raw performance, because consoles have other advantages that the PC can't hope to compete with at the moment for the market.
The consoles aren't there to be the biggest most powerful systems in the world. They're there to appeal to the mainstream, at a mainstream price, in a mainstream position in your home.
This is wrong considering there are plenty of tech sites and even here we have people with them. Nvidia is making a lot of money off this group, amd isn't.
Majmun
Member
Does that include the !!8GB GDDR5!!! memory, 500GB HDD and a blu-ray drive!?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
They're not gonna be concerned until that tech is sitting in a console form factor box in the living room, selling for $400-$500. Which could be sooner than later. My concern is that it will cause the platform holders to break the truce that allowed console exclusives to get PC ports.
How many people's PCs are equipped to handle a 7970 if the rest of the components stay the same?
The PC crowed thinks they only have to upgrade their GPU and they usually are right but the majority of people have old MoBos that aren't built to handle a newer GPU or a terrible CPU that will bottleneck it.
When you add in the entire cost of upgrading it gets more expensive.
Rock Gotti
Banned
I should bloody hope not
They are weeks away from their biggest gaming launch in their history.. anything other than confidence in their machine is unacceptable.
SONY go get em!
They are weeks away from their biggest gaming launch in their history.. anything other than confidence in their machine is unacceptable.
SONY go get em!
CPU advancement has really been glacial over the past few years, so I'd say "more than one might assume".
Glorified G
Member
Which is confusing why this is even being discussed. PC's have always been ahead and will always continue to be. The nature of the open vs. closed platform
SirButterstick
Banned
Plus KB and Mouse, OS, extra case fans and thermal paste.
Just_myles
Member
They shouldn't be. Business as usual.
startyourengine
Member
that sounds hardcore.
I was mostly speaking for myself.
My PC is 5 years old. At this point if I wanted to upgrade it I'd have to replace that majority of the innards of it just to upgrade my GPU. I can't just buy a 7970 and pop it in and expect it to perform.
And a monitor, a desk, an office chair, a nice suit and a monocle. Also people often forget to account for the pay for the butler, you can't be a real PC gaming elitist without one.
Why not if you have PCIE you can take advantage of it? What kind of cpu do you have exactly cause that will determine if you bottleneck it or not?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
As they damn well shouldn't be. This has been the case for previous console generations, as well... Just look at Crysis shortly after the release of the PS3. Similarly, I'm pretty sure that FEAR looked great compared to console offerings at the time, as well.
The cost of entry makes the power difference of the PC irrelevant in this argument. Sony is absolutely right not to worry about PC tech, as the odds of console gamers making the switch to a $1000+ machine are slim.
The cost of entry makes the power difference of the PC irrelevant in this argument. Sony is absolutely right not to worry about PC tech, as the odds of console gamers making the switch to a $1000+ machine are slim.
Closed platforms like a console will always get much better optimization for games over PC. PC is usually run on brute force from GPU's and CPU. A console developer can make a game for one or two hardware types and not 40 CPU's, 70 GPU and driver types, different ram, different OS's...etc.
That's why even after a few years console games can hold their own and look better and better down the road.
That's why even after a few years console games can hold their own and look better and better down the road.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Me neither. Advanced graphics aren't everything, folks. The ease and accessibility of consoles are more valuable to me.
fastford58
Member
And why do people talk like a 300$ GPU is the ONLY thing you need to run games?
Last time I checked, PS4 was more than a GPU, and so are PCs.