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It's over. Mexican coke switching to corn syrup cause people in Mexico are fat

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http://www.latintimes.com/articles/9881/20131104/mexican-coke-coca-cola-sugar-cane-fructose.htm
The motive behind the decision is to cut costs after Mexico's congress approved a tax on soda that will cost one peso (or $0.08, at 13 pesos to the dollar) per liter of soda sales.The soda tax was passed in an effort to tackle Mexico's obesity epidemic since recent statistics suggest that over 70 percent of Mexico's population is considered to be overweight
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Mexico's Congress approved a 1 peso-per-liter tax on sugary drinks and an 8 percent tax on junk food as part of a wider tax overhaul

So people are fat and drinking too much soda in Mexico, so you tax sodas, so Coke switches from real cane sugar to high fructose corn syrup to save money and keep the prices the same, e, so then people will drink the same amount of soda and get even fatter from the HFCS! Problem solved.

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Yeah...this is stupid as hell. Stop drinking this garbage like crazy Mexican people. Keep that shit in waaaaay moderation.
 
Kaako said:
Wait, doesn't HFCS fuck your body up even more than real cane sugar? o_O
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Not really. There is insufficient evidence according to most experts. It gets metabolized the same way.
You just should limit consumption of all sugars in general. And it is abundant in American foods because it's a cheap way to sweeten things.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-fructose-corn-syrup/AN01588

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-06-18/lifestyle/40045534_1_sugars-high-fructose-corn-syrup-foods

I'm pretty sure there are limited animal studies saying it is worse, but the scientific consensus is that there is insufficient evidence to make these extraordinary claims.
 
What do they use in Europe? Are we the last bastion of "real" coke or have we already succumbed to the pressures of artificial sweeteners?
 
there's still Jewish coke.
i buy Kosher fruit preserves when I can find them, they taste better, pure sugar and fruit.
 
Hoo-doo said:
What do they use in Europe? Are we the last bastion of "real" coke or have we already succumbed to the pressures of artificial sweeteners?
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Everywhere uses actual sugar in their sodas, except for the U.S., and I guess now Mexico.

I guess we'll have to start importing our Coke from Canada now?
 
kirblar said:
Established dietary science is very far behind the curve. Trust the newer stuff.
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WaPo article is from 2013. Mayo clinic is 2012. I can't time travel.

There is a ton of misinformation and extrapolation (especially by alternative medicine, fad and diet "gurus", Dr Oz types and click-bait sources) made from lab studies in nutrition.

here is another one proclaiming the same
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-sweetener-wars-hfcs-strikes-back/

and another one
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/high-fructose-corn-syrup/
 
Prepare for privileged American shitstorm.

Coke will introduce a limited "Cane" version in 6-12 months time. They will sell like crazy and then it will be taken off the market.
 
I thought corn syrup was only cheap here in the US due to subsidies. Would it really be as cheap in Mexico? Cane sugar is already pretty cheap.
 
I'm starting to wonder if corn HFCS has that much effect on people's weight. Seems like it's more of cultural problem. Doesn't Japan and Korea use very high amounts of HFCS? If you guzzle down coca-cola you will get fat, doesn't matter if it's cane sugar or HFCS.
 
ЯAW;88819364 said:
I'm starting to wonder if corn HFCS has that much effect on people's weight. Seems like it's more of cultural problem. Doesn't Japan and Korea use very high amounts of HFCS? If you guzzle down coca-cola you will get fat, doesn't matter if it's cane sugar or HFCS.
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Exactly what I mean. It's a consumption issue, doesn't matter if it s HFCS or cane sugar. The problem is that the Americans like sweet stuff (and cheap) so food manufacturers add it to many foods, adding more calories to foods. Some that are marketed as "healthy" so consumption still increases.

Obesity science stuff is really interesting. The CDC has even a report on how many Americans eat fruits and vegetables per day.
 
ClassyPenguin said:
WaPo article is from 2013. Mayo clinic is 2012. I can't time travel.

There is a ton of misinformation and extrapolation (especially by alternative medicine, fad and diet "gurus", Dr Oz types and click-bait sources) made from lab studies in nutrition.

here is another one proclaiming the same
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-sweetener-wars-hfcs-strikes-back/

and another one
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/high-fructose-corn-syrup/
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Correct. But those aren't the type of things I'm talking about. Remember, established industries have vested interests in supporting the status quo. We've been telling kids to eat approximately one billion servings of grain a day for decades. It's been becoming quite clear that was a massive mistake. HFCS is another point where the established "oh its all the same" does not appear to at all be the case in newer studies.

See: Fat Mice.
 
HFCS is no worse than regular sugar. Not to mention the fact that Mexico became the world's fatest country by drinking the real sugar Coke in the first place.
 
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"Some people have claimed that high-fructose corn syrup is no different than other sweeteners when it comes to weight gain and obesity, but our results make it clear that this just isn't true, at least under the conditions of our tests,"
 
kirblar said:
Correct. But those aren't the type of things I'm talking about. Remember, established industries have vested interests in supporting the status quo. We've been telling kids to eat approximately one billion servings of grain a day for decades. It's been becoming quite clear that was a massive mistake. HFCS is another point where the established "oh its all the same" does not appear to at all be the case in newer studies.

See: Fat Mice.
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"it also turns out that the rodents researchers have studied metabolize fructose in a very different way than people do—far more different than originally anticipated. Studies that have traced fructose’s fantastic voyage through the human body suggest that the liver converts as much as 50 percent of fructose into glucose, around 30 percent of fructose into lactate and less than one percent into fats. In contrast, mice and rats turn more than 50 percent of fructose into fats, so experiments with these animals would exaggerate the significance of fructose’s proposed detriments for humans, especially clogged arteries, fatty livers and insulin resistance."

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ar-really-toxic-sifting-through-the-evidence/
 
kirblar said:
Correct. But those aren't the type of things I'm talking about. Remember, established industries have vested interests in supporting the status quo. We've been telling kids to eat approximately one billion servings of grain a day for decades. It's been becoming quite clear that was a massive mistake. HFCS is another point where the established "oh its all the same" does not appear to at all be the case in newer studies.

See: Fat Mice.
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Again, it is very much established that sugar is bad and that a huge part of obesity is due to over-consumption. It doesn't matter if it is HFCS or cane sugar.
Limiting public consumption is the end goal.
Still, none of this alters the fact that a diet high in fructose has been shown to cause — or at least contribute to — hyperlipidemia, obesity, insulin resistance and cardiac disease. However, those who have been paying attention will have noticed that HFCS is not the ONLY sweetener that contains significant amounts of fructose.

In fact, sucrose — even “natural” cane sugar — is 50% fructose once it is digested and absorbed. While this is 20% less than the fructose content of HFCS 55, food manufacturers need to use less (about 20% less) HFCS 55 to get the same sweetness, so it’s a wash as far as fructose content.
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From the Science Based Medicine article.
 
People really think HCFS is worse than normal sugar?



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This sugar must cure cancer then.


Well, what will hipsters drink now to prove they are better at eating candy?
 
Stevia....but wait!

"The plant extract is refined using ethanol, methanol, crystallization and separation technologies to separate the various glycoside molecules. The Coca-Cola Company sells it as Truvia. Pepsi sells it as PureVia. It is a product of major corporations and is prepared in a laboratory using “toxic” chemicals like methanol. For some reason that doesn’t bother those who are promoting stevia as a natural product."
 
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