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Will we ever get another Uncharted on Vita?
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Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Well, Sony themselves flat out said that they will no longer bring AAA effort to Vita, so....
Wait, what?
Triggerhappytel
Member
Almost certainly not. I think Bend are now working on a PS4 game, and Naughty Dog probably wouldn't go near the Vita with a barge pole. Golden Abyss sold pretty well, but incomparable to the mainline versions.
They said this when?
old manatee
Banned
God I hope not.
nhlducks35
Member
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014...ghter-ps-vita-model-out-today/#comment-979811
Not exact words, but basically they are bringing AAA games to Vita not by making real games native to it but by virtue of Remote Play or PlaystationNow.
Edit: Woops, beaten like the Vita under SCEA.
Seems like a chicken/egg situation to me. If you put great original games on the console, people will buy it. Pumping out port and after port along with stereotypical handheld games won't get it done...
That said, I think the vita library is pretty decent but too many of the best games are ports and psp/ps1 classics
That said, I think the vita library is pretty decent but too many of the best games are ports and psp/ps1 classics
Damn. Seems like the only big game we`ll be getting is Gravity Rush 2. After that who knows.
At this point I think they view it as a dead console in a dead product line, so they're trying to just make the people who bought it as happy as they can without spending much.
In Japan it has some success and the PS4 has no success, so they're investing more there for at least the short term.
I imagine they would like to have the PS4 do well there so they didn't have the awkward split, but if no Japanese third parties are getting games out the door, there's not much they can do.
That's tragic. Hard to see why they released the Vita at all, there doesn't seem to have been any real desire to make games for it internally. It's just a PS4 peripheral now.
SolidSnakex
Member
They're releasing several big Japanese developed games. Oreshika 2, Gravity Rush 2, Freedom Wars etc. But Japanese gamers still buy handheld games in large enough volumes for Sony to justify putting money into more expensive games. There's no reason for them to sink millions of dollars into another Vita Uncharted just to watch it sell like shit.
This is basically the core issue with long lead times.
The Vita started development in 2008 when making another handheld still seemed reasonable.
By the time they hit launch, the types of games that would be required to support a device like there were ultimately too expensive for Sony's taste and third parties weren't very interested either.
That's why we got a ton of PSP-like titles at launch, since they were preparing for that, and then they kind of just tapered off after that once the system bombed. They couldn't rally support, and it became clear the system wasn't going to be widely successful, so they just finished what they had in development and moved on with their Western studios.
They repositioned it toward indie developers and enthusiasts as they realized indies would benefit from a small but active buying audience and the small but active buying audience would benefit from indies.
Right, thus the nature of the support split.
They knew they could get this off the ground in Japan so they went for it in a way they didn't in the West.
Nah, GR2 isn't the only one. There's Freedom Wars and SS2 too. Maybe PSNova will get localized too, who knows
OldKingDoran
Banned
Hope not. Uncharted GA was ass imo.
Wish sony would just help fund localizations like they said they would.
Tales of Hearts R is a start i guess, if a mediocre one. but thats a different discussion.
Wish sony would just help fund localizations like they said they would.
Tales of Hearts R is a start i guess, if a mediocre one. but thats a different discussion.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Also, don't forget the significance of losing Monster Hunter's support to 3DS.
Really, that was a REALLY awfully stupid move of Sony.
Wow, first time I've heard them say that bluntly
I wonder if he's speaking for WWS or just SCEA, because I hope MM get another chance to do a Vita game.
We already did
I will will do anything (as long as its legal) to get this on PS4/PS3.
This really is sad... I do prefer more Japanese games to western games, but the fact that NO ONE wants to even try or bother with it, makes me depressed :/ Nintendo has their WiiU and at least THEY are putting games on it!
I love my Vita to bits, and it's also sad how the 64GB cards are in the top 100 best sellers on Amazon AS AN IMPORT... I just... I'm a loss at words to describe this situation. Not all Vita owners want it as a streaming/port/Indi-palooza handheld... The third parties have at least been awesome with releasing stuff for it. For the first time ever, the niche titles have WON, it feels like.
IsntChrisL
Member
0 chance. It's the opposite situation/problem I have with Nintendo right now. All kinds of original/big games hit the 3DS on a regular basis (from both Nintendo and third parties). But on the Wii U it has been the same old story of "wait for the next safe sequel!"
I imagine they tried, but Capcom was rather infatuated with the 3DS at the time.
Their CEO referred to it as the ultimate gaming platform and they greenlit a ton of games for it across a wide variety of genres.
I imagine this was inspired by it being capable of a lot of genres, but also relatively cheap to develop for.
Some of those worked out, but quite a few didn't, so they have a much more reserved line-up now and are focusing on mobile and asian PC f2p as their big focus instead, which theoretically hits the notes they felt the 3DS did, but with more examples of outlandishly huge profits.
All signs point to Bend's next project being on the PS4. So unless Naughty Dog decides to make their next Uncharted title multiplatform or Sony gets another studio to do it, chances aren't very good.
Damn shame. Maybe SCEJ can get some smaller, lower risk projects out of reviving some of their old IPs (Ape Escape, Legend of the Dragoon, PaRappa, LocoRoco, etc.)
It didn't do horribly but it was also bundled and a launch title, so the odds of it retaining its sales aren't great.
For example God of War had a huge decline iteration over iteration on PSP, so I imagine that's what they would be worried about here.
how did that happened?
It sounds like even SCEJA are leaving the platform:
I view that as a poor decision given the platform doesn't have the third party support to keep itself running.
Golden Abyss was never bundled with Vita. It's been a fixture of PS+ since months after launch, though.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/04/14/what-next-for-sonys-japan-studios
I view that as a poor decision given the platform doesn't have the third party support to keep itself running.
Golden Abyss was never bundled with Vita. It's been a fixture of PS+ since months after launch, though.
Ah I see, I think I was getting confused by the instant game collection bundles. My bad.
SlipperySlope
Banned
I would guess Capcom saw more potential with the 3DS, and Sony didn't pony up the cash to make up the difference in expected profit. The choice was business as usual I'd say, and in the end payed off pretty well given the game has outsold the Vita's LTD.
Edit - The thing that surprises me is the generation over generation decline from PSP -> Vita. From 80 million to... what's the Vita at now? 4? Can someone correct me here
Another thing I'm curious about - Does the Vita have a million seller?
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Sony didn't try hard enough.
I don't think so. P4G "shipped" 700.000, Dragon's Crown gets 800.000 but that's split with the PS3 version.
SlipperySlope
Banned
That doesn't explain all of it. Nintendo suffered about a 50% decline. In the end, the Vita will suffer a decline of over 90%. The Vita was an ill conceived console that Sony surely regrets. Poor first party support. Poor 3rd party support. It does have indies though, I'll give it that. It's a good indie machine.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Highly doubtful considering even Square themselves isn't confident enough to release *just* Vita version, but together with PS3.
I feel the same way. I'm forcing myself to finish Uncharted & Killzone on the Vita, but I'm not really enjoying them. Gravity Rush, Olliolli, Miami Hotline and Stardust easily are the most fun I have on my Vita. I don't see why people complain about the lack of 'AAA' games on the Vita.
There's not enough sales data to know whether there's a million seller or not. Uncharted was at 500k (excluding digital I think) a few months after launch so it is very possible that it reached 1 million sales