NotTheGuyYouKill
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My friend's husband was a doctor in China. Here, he's a security guard.
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Are you over or under qualified for your job? Are you resentful?
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Moving4Motion
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I'm an intensive care nurse, on top of years of study, every day I do dozens of tasks that if I fuck up someone dies. For this I am paid 28k a year.
I guess that's a little off topic but I like to moan about it sometimes. One of the cleaners here was an engineer in Greece.
I guess that's a little off topic but I like to moan about it sometimes. One of the cleaners here was an engineer in Greece.
YesNOnoNOYes
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I'm at about the right fit.... oddly 
Poor your friend :< Lots of immigrants have to downgrade, I've witnessed :<
My last cab driver was an electrical engineer in India but now he's a taxi driver. He seems resentful, kept talking to me about how unfair it was that his degree is not recognised in Australia. I gave him a big tip.
Poor your friend :< Lots of immigrants have to downgrade, I've witnessed :<
My last cab driver was an electrical engineer in India but now he's a taxi driver. He seems resentful, kept talking to me about how unfair it was that his degree is not recognised in Australia. I gave him a big tip.
really? what country/state/city?
a friend of mine here in LA is basically the same and makes like $85k. In NY I think she was in the 90s
as for me, i am in the right place. i can technically be one pay grade higher with ease, but i will have probably wait that out. for someone without a college degree i am doing very well for myself.
Moving4Motion
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London UK. So that's like 45k in US or something. Nurses earn way more in the states.
I quit teaching English in "Eikaiwa" places in Japan because of this.
I'd studied linguistics and communication, took real pride in advancing students' skill levels and always prepared something that would help the specific students in a class, but...
I came out to English Conversation places in Japan and they all just wanted a foreign guy to jump around and laugh all the time. It wasn't "teach them something" it was "Dance for the customers, boy!"
That, and most of my coworkers were abroad simply because someone was willing to pay them to never prepare anything and spend almost every night and weekend getting hammered.
I had enough of management that just wanted foreign "teachers" to sing-n-dance and enough of coworkers who were getting the same money for not really teaching anything to taking any responsibility for their students.
Blech, I could go on and on about how much of a scam Eikaiwa is, in general, but I have to stop myself.
I'd studied linguistics and communication, took real pride in advancing students' skill levels and always prepared something that would help the specific students in a class, but...
I came out to English Conversation places in Japan and they all just wanted a foreign guy to jump around and laugh all the time. It wasn't "teach them something" it was "Dance for the customers, boy!"
That, and most of my coworkers were abroad simply because someone was willing to pay them to never prepare anything and spend almost every night and weekend getting hammered.
I had enough of management that just wanted foreign "teachers" to sing-n-dance and enough of coworkers who were getting the same money for not really teaching anything to taking any responsibility for their students.
Blech, I could go on and on about how much of a scam Eikaiwa is, in general, but I have to stop myself.
Bachelor's in BIS, I work as a field service technician for a retail chain so...overqualified as can be.
My average issue works out like this:
1. Walk up to a register.
2. Find the thing that's broken.
3. Replace it with a new one.
4. Mail out the old one to be repaired/replaced.
Multiply this by dozens of times a day, add in some small install projects, and you have my job. It's the perfect kind of work for someone who wants to punch a clock at one company until they hit 65. I don't enjoy it though, the raises have gotten worse, and they are slashing our benefits left and right. Also, boxing shipping and mailing hundreds of packages of broken parts a year makes me want to end myself.
So, I'm looking to job hop. It's just tough, since I want a stable full-time position and most work in my area of expertise is 1099 contracted.
My average issue works out like this:
1. Walk up to a register.
2. Find the thing that's broken.
3. Replace it with a new one.
4. Mail out the old one to be repaired/replaced.
Multiply this by dozens of times a day, add in some small install projects, and you have my job. It's the perfect kind of work for someone who wants to punch a clock at one company until they hit 65. I don't enjoy it though, the raises have gotten worse, and they are slashing our benefits left and right. Also, boxing shipping and mailing hundreds of packages of broken parts a year makes me want to end myself.
So, I'm looking to job hop. It's just tough, since I want a stable full-time position and most work in my area of expertise is 1099 contracted.
Randolph Freelander
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Dude, do the contracts. They're a great way to gain experience, not to mention exposure to tools, techniques, and technologies that will help you grow. You'll also be able to learn about organizations. Hop around enough times, you'll learn more about what you like, and you'll increase your earnings potential at each step along the way. Eventually, you may want to settle in somewhere, but at first? Finish your contract period and move on.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
It really annoys me when people are desperately trying to find work to put food on the table and not getting hired because they're 'over-qualified'. The internal reasoning is always that they can do better so we better not risk investing in them as an employee only to have them leave. Its sociopathic thinking.
Randolph Freelander
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It's unfortunate, but it's also pragmatic. Because that person will leave if they truly believe their inability to get a better job is temporary.
As a manager I exactly think like that. I don't hire over-qualified people anymore because in the past I did and all it did was waste the company's time and money. Took like 6 months to teach the job and they left after 9-12 months. I think a lot of people don't realize how much time goes into teaching a job, and looking after the new guy.
Another thing is that these employees usually have a pretty bad work morale because they know they can do much better (I say usually because obviously it depends on the person but in my experience this has always been the case). So not only you know that they will leave pretty soon but they also don't do their job 100%.
marimorimo
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But isn't that the truth? Most people who are over-qualified for their jobs tend to be unhappy about the lack of challenge and "lowliness" of the work. They are always on the look-out for other jobs and very likely to leave in a short time. Now if you were an employer, how would you manage that risk? It costs money to hire people.
The best-case scenario I can think about is both employer and employee being upfront about the duration of the work from the get-go (short-term contract, a few months). Part-time jobs should also not come with the expectation from the employer that the employee will stick around for a long time.
Pagusas
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Both somehow. Because the company is understaffed I'm dabbling in areas i really shouldn't be just to make up for missing staff, especially when it comes to business writing.
On the other hand when it comes to the duties I was hired to do, I'm way over qualified. The hope is I'll get to hire new staff to make up for the weaknesses than get to express my actual abilities.
On the other hand when it comes to the duties I was hired to do, I'm way over qualified. The hope is I'll get to hire new staff to make up for the weaknesses than get to express my actual abilities.
According to my job title? Just right. Pay is fine too.
For what I actually do? Underqualified on paper, but my boss/coworkers have done nothing but praise me, so I guess I'm doing alright. Severely underpaid for what I actually do though. Looking to fix that.
I'm not resentful, I'm grateful I was given the opportunity. But that was nearly two years ago. Time for them to put up or shut up.
For what I actually do? Underqualified on paper, but my boss/coworkers have done nothing but praise me, so I guess I'm doing alright. Severely underpaid for what I actually do though. Looking to fix that.
I'm not resentful, I'm grateful I was given the opportunity. But that was nearly two years ago. Time for them to put up or shut up.
xKilltheMx
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No job but at this point ill be overqualified since I doubt I'll be getting a job relating to my degree anytime soon.
Septimus Prime
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I once interviewed a guy who was way, way, way overqualified for the position he applied for. He had a law degree and a PhD, with lots of prior jobs paying six figures, and he was applying for a $10/hour QA tester gig. I actually had to stop the interview and tell him what he was applying for, and then we both decided that we were wasting each others' time.
I feel like if I did make an offer to him, it would have been insulting.
marimorimo
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At my first job, I was a bit under-qualified. I was the best they had to work with though because there were few people with my skill (Japanese Language Interpretation/Translation). A few months after I started, my boss took me to see their old interpreter (who moved to another company) so I could see how awesome she was at her job. (I was terrible and slow compared to her who had been doing the job for 10 years).
I'm proud to say I got very good at my job and little over a year after I started, I was almost on par with the old interpreter and after 2 years, I could run circles around her
Best job I ever had, and I was making 10 times the minimum wage.
At my current job, I'm neither under-qualified or over-qualified. I like the job but I hate the toxic work environment
I'm proud to say I got very good at my job and little over a year after I started, I was almost on par with the old interpreter and after 2 years, I could run circles around her
Best job I ever had, and I was making 10 times the minimum wage.At my current job, I'm neither under-qualified or over-qualified. I like the job but I hate the toxic work environment
I'm a storyboard artist. I've done cleans for acouple years, and this is my first senior board job. I'd done my own stuff, and occasional roughs for other shows before if they wanted me to help take a load off (including this one last season), but this is the first time I've been hired purely to do just roughs. It's been a year, but the show is INCREDIBLY challenging, even for the guys who had been boarding for years and years. The client is really happy with my work, but my speed makes me feel really unqualified.
I would've figured someone as educated as that would have known what they were applying for, almost like someone dropping everything to work in a biz they truly wanted to kinda deal.
-Pyromaniac-
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Overqualified as all fucks.
Whatever.
Whatever.
Deified Data
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Overqualified in some areas, underqualified in some others. I just go with the flow and things usually work out in my favor.
About right, though working on ecommerce and marketing websites is rapidly becoming beneath me. I like my company, I like our clients a lot less. They are either pouring money into some idea but have no idea what they're doing or they are putting in the most minimal of efforts into some banal product because they're tightwads. In both cases they're in eternal crunch-mode.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I am qualified, but my job is fucking shit
OnionPowder
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I'm overqualified for sure but I make decent pay so I'll take it. My employer at least recognizes my skill. I started at $8 an hour at 17 and I'm 21 now making $18.25
Nearly 20 years ago I took a job as a dialysis reuse technician. It paid less than the cashier job I had just quit and it was a much longer commute, but it was something technical to put on resume and I had 2 Engineering degrees at the time. If I made a mistake bleach could have been pumped into a patient. I laugh when I see those tv ads to study to be a dialysis tech when the position pays barely above minimum wage. The company also took out too much in taxes and their timeclock also was set up to screw you out of 1/2 hour of pay each day if you didnt punch in correctly.
Septimus Prime
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That definitely was the case (the "interview" ended up just being a conversation), but he did not know how little it paid. In the end, I said he could definitely have the position if he wanted it, but he opted not to take it.
highoffcoffee496
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Over qualified, but I need a job :/
The good thing is I really like what I do though Just wish it paid more
The good thing is I really like what I do though
Just wish it paid more
Celestial Mortal
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I have a Bachelor's degree in Computer Systems Engineering and I'm working in a technical support field...
I guess I'm...over qualified? Resentful job everyday but it pays the bills.
Plus I'm working with people who have zero knowledge of networking or computers nor have the mind to grasp the thing. The bad thing is that I have to work for them in their place as well when they hit a wall...
There's this guy who was a hotel receptionist before and was only brought in by our Supervisor because our Supervisor visited his hotel a lot when he was travelling from a different city
I guess I'm...over qualified? Resentful job everyday but it pays the bills.
Plus I'm working with people who have zero knowledge of networking or computers nor have the mind to grasp the thing. The bad thing is that I have to work for them in their place as well when they hit a wall...
There's this guy who was a hotel receptionist before and was only brought in by our Supervisor because our Supervisor visited his hotel a lot when he was travelling from a different city
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
It's weird how Overqualified literally means that you have too much experience in an unrelated field or higher education than the job required and never means you are capable of performing the tasks related to your job beyond satisfaction because... who wouldn't want an employee like that? Ultimately, it an attempt to sugar-coat the fact that an employer simply wants you to have a sufficiently low enough education and or knowledge level to keep you at your position indefinitely.
I don't want to be pedantic about the whole thing because I know there's a significant overhead of time and resources when inducting an new employee but it bugs me when I see lower-skilled labor with the same restriction as if they're overhead is that high when the reality is they simply want someone who has no motivation to move from a low-skilled position.
I don't want to be pedantic about the whole thing because I know there's a significant overhead of time and resources when inducting an new employee but it bugs me when I see lower-skilled labor with the same restriction as if they're overhead is that high when the reality is they simply want someone who has no motivation to move from a low-skilled position.
theepicoftyler
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I'm overqualified for my job, but student loans ain't gonna pay for themselves. I sometimes I feel like I jumped too quick after graduation, but it's my fault I haven't perused other employment I suppose.
My job is tangentially related to my degree, and nothing close to what I would consider the job that I want.
My job is tangentially related to my degree, and nothing close to what I would consider the job that I want.
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