Wii U first flop week was 122.356
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2014 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Wii U first flop week was 122.356
Principate
Saint Titanfall
True but the PS3 never sold more than 2 million in a single calendar year and it had only 1 million seller. For comparison the Vita last year sold in the 1.5 mil mark.
The PS3 never sold well in Japan, it just stopped selling badly. What saved it was the fact Japan actually had a healthy mid tier industry last gen, so while no game sold exceptionally on it and lot of games sold reasonably as it's stall base bought a lot of varied smaller games.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yup. Every platform increased except for the WiiU which actually decreased a bit. That was worrying for a new system.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Happened with the Vita also, always kinda ominous.
theprodigy
Member
increased from which two weeks?
I'm too lazy to look
I'm too lazy to look
Oh man, I remember reading these posts. It is crazy how even after a year that he is still bitter about this.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
PS3 did 88k during the holidays....just no. No where near that bad.
Hmm I should have said software wise.
I mean something like good support with just ok hardware sales.
Holy shit. 120k baseline!? That's crazy.
Holy shit, man. That is an EPIC HEEL TURN. I never understood just how bad it became with him. No wonder he writes that the Wii U struggles was a personal betrayal for him.
Iwata is just quick to apologize about anything even if he doesn't necessarily have to make a statement about it.
Bruno MB
Member
Xbox practically sold in its launch week a third of its total sales, that was pretty crazy.
Launch Week - 123.929
Rest of its life - 348.623 / 472.552
It's like a completely different person.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Some people are just to afraid to face reality.
michaelius
Banned
Nope it will be much better - but no chances it matches ps2 records like it does in west.
We have very different expectations though.
One is PS4>=PS3 and the other PS4>>PS3
Chris is being sarcastic
I'm not.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I would think Sony would expect the PS4 to do better than the PS3 at launch. Unless your talking about LTD's.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Oh man, NicoNico plays pokemon would be the worst thing ever.
Pretty sure only the PC/OSX version is launching next month, don't think the PS4 one has a date.
Yep starting in April sales will be very low I expect some meltdowns.
Sounds disappointing
Square, you better sort out your shit fast and release a new FF on PS4 before it's too late.
Well if SE want to continue FF on home consoles, they need to shift their attention to the west. Japan sales won't be as relevant as in the past percentage wise considering the development costs and lower install base.
Overall looking at recent consoles sales numbers the market is shifting not from home consoles to handhelds but from handhelds to mobile.I don't think PS4 will change that unless some kind of innovation comes out and will be a big hit. The only thing I can think of doing that is the rumored VR but it's still far too early to tell and we don't even know if it's true.
Father_Brain
Banned
Is there a complete list of the Japanese-developed PS4 titles that have been announced in the five months since TGS? I know it's not many.
It remains to be seen whether the Western audience for a franchise as distinctively Japanese as FF is large enough to justify the costs of AAA console development. Heck, I'm pretty skeptical about MGSV's sales here (I think it'll at best equal MGS4), and that's a franchise that doesn't have anything close to the same issues on an aesthetic level.
Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one out of Konami, Capcom, and SE's Japanese side permanently exits AAA console development well before the end of the generation. Say, by the end of the 2016/2017 fiscal year.
It remains to be seen whether the Western audience for a franchise as distinctively Japanese as FF is large enough to justify the costs of AAA console development. Heck, I'm pretty skeptical about MGSV's sales here (I think it'll at best equal MGS4), and that's a franchise that doesn't have anything close to the same issues on an aesthetic level.
Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one out of Konami, Capcom, and SE's Japanese side permanently exits AAA console development well before the end of the generation. Say, by the end of the 2016/2017 fiscal year.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Square's games look to be an unbelievably tough situation right now. The landscape of consoles may have shifted too much to make a JRPG with a gigantic budget financially viable, but a major part of the appeal for Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts is their cinematics, which is hard to translate to platforms that aren't home consoles. Kingdom Hearts might be in an even worse scenario than Final Fantasy considering that it seems that kids might have moved away from consoles.
Not a chance the PS4 goes below 87k in it's first week.
I don't really think it would be all that hard to have FF style cinematics on a portable device and SE could make mainline FF and KH work on portables if it was no longer seen as viable on consoles.
Prediction League March 2014
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 24 to Mar 30):
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) -
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) -
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) -
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) -
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) -
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) -
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) -
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) -
[360] Titanfall (4 days) -
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Deadline: Feb 26 08:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)
Attention:
Was totally forgetting this.
And I forgot to predict for the entire year. =\
Gonna post anyway just to see how wrong I am.
[PS4] Hardare - 1111k
[3DS] Hardware - 3333k
[PSV] Hardware - 999k
[WIU] Hardware - 888k
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 G - 2222k
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. - 888k
[WIU] Super Smash Bros. - 888k
[WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 999k
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 24 to Mar 30):
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) -
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) -
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) -
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) -
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) -
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) -
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) -
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) -
[360] Titanfall (4 days) -
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Deadline: Feb 26 08:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)
Attention:
- PS4 HARDWARE DOESN'T INCLUDE THE LAUNCH "WEEK" (FIRST 2 DAYS)
- Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
- Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform
- Do not edit your post after the deadline. If you do, you'll be disqualified.
- The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
- The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
- The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
- The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
- Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
Was totally forgetting this.
And I forgot to predict for the entire year. =\
Gonna post anyway just to see how wrong I am.
[PS4] Hardare - 1111k
[3DS] Hardware - 3333k
[PSV] Hardware - 999k
[WIU] Hardware - 888k
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 G - 2222k
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. - 888k
[WIU] Super Smash Bros. - 888k
[WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 999k
theprodigy
Member
Japan definitely has not seen Titanfall
And_Gignac
Member
PS3 had a massive price tag and, as far I know, the first shipment was ridiculously low.
Even if the PS4 outsells the PS3 by a wide margin it wont be a "victory" of any sort if it doesnt have a healthy sell trough - shipments ratio.
Even if the PS4 outsells the PS3 by a wide margin it wont be a "victory" of any sort if it doesnt have a healthy sell trough - shipments ratio.
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) - 227,000
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 105,000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 93,000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 249,000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 96,000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 185,000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 78,000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 165,000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 189,000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 229,000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 23,500
Some of these I'm genuinely clueless about but I'll give it a shot. I'll do some research before the deadline and adjust accordingly.
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 105,000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 93,000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 249,000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 96,000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 185,000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 78,000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 165,000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 189,000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 229,000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 23,500
Some of these I'm genuinely clueless about but I'll give it a shot. I'll do some research before the deadline and adjust accordingly.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
360 to outsell the PS4 first week! The Japanese "mecha" thirst is real!
SwiftDeath
Member
Yes but if the PS4 launch numbers don't outsell PS3 launch numbers that's troublesome. Granted PS3 launched in holiday but still that would be pretty bad.
PS4 first day results.
http://azalyn.blog22.fc2.com/
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone, Battlefield
- Software tie ratio was over 1
- Yakuza Ishin PS3S4 = 2.5:1
http://ameblo.jp/oosakaking/
- Hardware sold out
- Software tie ratio 0.7
http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisarazumax1250/archives/37254157.html
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone
- Software tie ratio 0.46
These are all most likely "hardcore stores".
Yodobashi only has the version with camera sold-out in three stores: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/news/1000073465/index.html?kind=0002&store=0011
Amazon is apparently sold-out.
http://azalyn.blog22.fc2.com/
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone, Battlefield
- Software tie ratio was over 1
- Yakuza Ishin PS3
S4 = 2.5:1http://ameblo.jp/oosakaking/
- Hardware sold out
- Software tie ratio 0.7
http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisarazumax1250/archives/37254157.html
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone
- Software tie ratio 0.46
These are all most likely "hardcore stores".
Yodobashi only has the version with camera sold-out in three stores: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/news/1000073465/index.html?kind=0002&store=0011
Amazon is apparently sold-out.
SwiftDeath
Member
Yeesh at those software tie ratios
No idea if there's any takeaway with the hw sell out though
No idea if there's any takeaway with the hw sell out though
Hexa
Member
First time I'm doing this. Hope I'm doing it right?
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) - 200,000
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 100,000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 125,000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 375,000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 150,000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 350,000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 80,000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 300,000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 300,000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 300,000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 10,000
So what if I'm a little optimistic?
Below 0 tie ratio has to mean that people are planning on buying games digitally or from other stores. The other option is a majority bought a PS4 just for Knack...
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) - 200,000
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 100,000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 125,000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 375,000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 150,000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 350,000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 80,000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 300,000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 300,000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 300,000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 10,000
So what if I'm a little optimistic?
Below 0 tie ratio has to mean that people are planning on buying games digitally or from other stores. The other option is a majority bought a PS4 just for Knack...