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Amazing Spiderman 2 is in the upper echelon of superhero movies

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Dilly

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Likely improv'd on set as well.

I really thought he was going to rap something to express his feelings, the way he started shaking his body. :lol Pretty much like in this Bad Lip Reading fragment: http://youtu.be/D7jtpy0lfBU?t=19s

When Garfield was trying to portray nervous Peter Parker, it was fucking irritating. I liked it more than the first time I saw it in cinemas on rewatch, so I'll probably go watch ASM2. Here's hoping there is less romance crap.
 

.GqueB.

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Just watched it, You didnt lie it was great. A proper Supehero movie. I much prefer Garfield to Tobey. Garfield acts more like I imagine Spiderman would, he's cocky he's confident but kind(he helps a little kid being bullied). You could see why the bad guys hate him and everyone else likes him.

In amongst all the chaos he has a mind to save loads of people in the almost impossible of situations. The action was great you really feel like your swinging with him at some points, its very balletic and effortless. Its not all about punching some bad guys head in. They didnt contrive some way to take his mask off in the middle of battle.

The quiet moments were good too. Good chemistry, very naturalistic and relaxed between the actors.

There are some contrivances and disappointments but nothing really major that ruins the movie.

I used to like the first Tobey Spiderman movie not anymore, this Spiderman is pretty amazing and my favourite Spiderman movie.

Be careful. This one statement could derail this entire thread.
 

Mumei

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... Stop posting about what some permed poster is saying on Twitter. He's permed for a reason, and it's not so someone can proxy post for him.
 

Spinluck

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To Raimi fans the train scene in SM2 is heart but the crane scene in ASM was the worst thing to ever be on film. They are both the same type of event. I didn't care for either and I the redeeming part of the subway scene was how Dr. Octopus just pushed them all to one side.

I liked that subway scene, the cheese is real, but it was well executed and if they just allowed Ock to take Spidey after he saved all of them it would have felt empty.

In some cases, I usually feel that "heart" and "soul" are totally nostalgia terms, sometimes people seeing a lot more in a scene than others. But so far I haven't seen a single post that articulates what makes that scene the worst thing ever outside of, "IT'S THE WORST THING EVER." The one good argument that I've read was convenient factor, which is totally fair. The dad returning was silly though, they tried to do this full circle thing with SM saving his son and him helping SM, but it felt so imposed and kind of takes away from that nice moment on the bridge lol. Not everyone needs to be an important plot device!
 
ASM > SM2 > SM1 >>>>>>SM3.


I actually like Spider-Man to behave like Spider-Man.


And Peter Parker to be a nerdy high school student who happen to be a 6'1" male model, who acts all brooding all while doing his sick skateboarding moves.

And nothing say's Spider-Man than having all his fights be in CG!

Yeah!
 
The dad returning was silly though, they tried to do this full circle thing with SM saving his son and him helping SM, but it felt so imposed and kind of takes away from that nice moment on the bridge lol. Not everyone needs to be an important plot device!

I get what you're saying. I just took the scene in general. It was uplifting, had great music, excellent cinematography. I didn't sit there and dwell about that one particular element especially as it's not some work of non-fiction. If I were to apply that logic to other superhero movies I would think they're all horrible.
 

Spinluck

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Yeah. People are saying the end credits scene is
X-Men: DOFP
, that there isn't one,
NTDYLF said it's Jameson
, one Twitter troll that got me for a sec hinted that it was from the MCU, and
a few on said it was Jennifer Lawrence as MJ (but I think those were jokes based of the DOFP clip at the end which featured her as Mystique).

My best explanation for this, is that Marc Webb still owes Fox two films, and since Sony is borrowing him for this trilogy they came to some sort of compromise.

I get what you're saying. I just took the scene in general. It was uplifting, had great music, excellent cinematography. I didn't sit there and dwell about that one particular element especially as it's not some work of non-fiction. If I were to apply that logic to other superhero movies I would think they're all horrible.

I agree, I think TASM had some great shots. A lot of stuff at night, yet the colors jumped. Not a lot of people can do that well (I think this cinematographer is also working on the new Jurassic Park?) The understanding of lighting deserves a mention as well.
Better shot than most of the MCU films.

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Ah this is neat. The Alicia Keys song features one theme, and Pharrell Williams' song "Here" features the love theme. I like it when the vocal songs for a movie feature the score, it makes them feel more like an actual part of it instead of a bunch of shitty licensed songs.

Here is a really nice song IMO.
 
I agree, I think TASM had some great shots. A lot of stuff at night, yet the colors jumped. Not a lot of people can do that well (I think this cinematographer is also working on the new Jurassic Park?) The understanding of lighting deserves a mention too.

Sure is. Dan Mindel is the one on Amazing Spider-man 2. He is shooting Star Wars: Episode VII and some of his past billing includes John Carter, Star Trek Into Darkness, Mission Impossible 3, etc.

I can only watch one this week, the other will have to wait.

Also, 2D or 3D?

Winter Soldier has been out for a bit so I guess see that one first? It's fucking rad. And I would say 2D, but that depends on your theater and how much you like or dislike 3D.
 

.GqueB.

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And Peter Parker to be a nerdy high school student who happen to be a 6'1" male model, who acts all brooding all while doing his sick skateboarding moves.

And nothing say's Spider-Man than having all his fights be in CG!

Yeah!

That's the main way to do Spiderman right. He doesn't really move in a way that's practical for even the best stuntmen. You're also ignoring all of the stunt work they actually DID do in the movie.

And Parker has been an attractive white male in the past.

Are you drunk?
 

hal9001

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My review:
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Somewhere in this, I believe there is a really great film trapped inside but that might be hard to notice during some scenes that felt like they were ripped out of a Michael Bay film. Don't get me wrong, I had fun and enjoyed this film but I felt like it had wasted its potential to have been something really special. It does feel like a literal comic book come to life and the cinematography with its range of bright pop colours give it a unique look to that of many other films from this genre. Once again Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone steal the show with their stunning onscreen chemistry together. Dane DeHaan plays a great Harry despite the limited material and screen time given to him. It's here that I have the biggest problem with the film, in which everything felt so rushed and there was no time given to fully explore these characters and relationships. Harry's transformation from friend to villain was laughably too quick and should have been saved for the third film
just like Gwen's Death (which surprised me as I was sure they were going to do it in the next one
). Electro should have been given the spotlight as the main villain (not just playing Urkel) and Peter's relationship with Harry/Gwen should have been given more time to be developed.

Its up there with Watchman(2009) in terms of feeling like an actual comic book film.
 

Spinluck

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That's the main way to do Spiderman right. He doesn't really move in a way that's practical for even the best stuntmen. You're also ignoring all of the stunt work they actually DID do in the movie.

And Parker has been an attractive white male in the past.

Are you drunk?

Yeah, this is weird, of all the things they did wrong in TASM, I don't think casting Garfield or the use of CG was a bad thing (unless you want to talk about The Lizard's design which was bad). Considering they have a chase scene that is nothing but practical stunts up until the very end lol. They use CG when they want Spider-Man to actually move like Spider-Man, which is fine with me!
 

Pavaloo

Member
Yeah, some of my favourite stuff from the old trilogy was CG too. IE Spidey swinging between components of a truck for fun.

Who cares? lol
 

Gannd

Banned
And Peter Parker to be a nerdy high school student who happen to be a 6'1" male model, who acts all brooding all while doing his sick skateboarding moves.

And nothing say's Spider-Man than having all his fights be in CG!

Yeah!


Peter Parker according to my Marvel comic card is 5'11. He's not short and ugly. He married a super model. I didn't like the hipster aspect but it beats the Toby face
 

Wazzy

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I'm pretty excited to see this. While ASM wasn't great, I still enjoyed it and hoped they would improve on the flaws with this film.

May is too long of a wait, though. :(
 
Peter Parker according to my Marvel comic card is 5'11. He's not short and ugly. He married a super model. I didn't like the hipster aspect but it beats the Toby face

Tobey Maguire actually passed off for a geeky teen who get pushed around in High School.
In ASM, it was laughably bad.

CGI uses for certain scenes were also secondary to the actual actors performing actual scenes (the end fight between Goblin & Spider-Man was perfect), which did not exist in ASM, since the Lizard was all CGI.
 

Gannd

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Tobey Maguire actually passed off for a geeky teen who get pushed around in High School.
In ASM, it was laughably bad.

CGI uses for certain scenes were also secondary to the actual actors performing actual scenes (the end fight between Goblin & Spider-Man was perfect), which did not exist in ASM, since the Lizard was all CGI.


How do you have a giant lizard that isn't cgi? Peter Parker isn't pushed around much in the books. Toby is awful
 

Spinluck

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How do you have a giant lizard that isn't cgi? Peter Parker isn't pushed around much in the books. Toby is awful

I'm kind of upset The Avengers uses CG for all the Hulk scenes. Also, why can't Evans learn to throw a shield instead of using CG? Same with the Iron Man armor in some scenes. CG is terrible.
 
TBH, I prefer that over Raimi's weepy bitch.

My buddy is not a comic fan, but he took to calling Raimi-Parker "Sleepy Spiderman", basically because he was so bland and unexciting in personality, even as Spider-Man. Lacking in energy. "He just seems so sleepy!"

And my girlfriend (also never read comics) called him Emo Spider-man because he's "always sad and crying." And then in spider-man 3 he makes the full transformation.

I just took to calling him "Boring Spider-Man." Maybe he'll crack a joke once a movie, maybe. Then he'll get sleepy and have a cry.

ASM has the vastly superior Peter/Spidey.
 
I loved it. Probably my favourite Spidey yet but I need to see it a few more times to say for sure. There is a lot crammed in but most of it's crammed in successfully unlike SM3.

Gwen's death was brilliantly done. Really heartbreaking. That scene couldn't have been done any better and Garfield was brilliant. No doubt in my mind he's the better Peter and Spidey we've seen on screen now.
 

Cartman86

Banned
Feel stupid for even putting a spoiler tag on it, but that
X-Men post
credits thing is lame as fuck.
Seen people reporting it as a crossover which it isn't. Hey everyone I saw a commercial for Captain America during Arrow a couple weeks ago. DC/Marvel crossover!!
 
Peter Parker according to my Marvel comic card is 5'11. He's not short and ugly. He married a super model. I didn't like the hipster aspect but it beats the Toby face

Yeah Peter is supposed to be really good looking. A bunch of women in the comics throw puss at him.
 
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