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RatskyWatsky

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Vazra

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Vitanimus said:
I need advice gaygaf. What are the main signals for when someone likes you? I ask because I won't see the person who may like for me all summer so I'm wondering if I should just go for it ya know?
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Grab his penis and if he doesn't punch you and lets you continue with it you shall know.
 
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RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
7echnicolor said:
I feel like it's better to know if they're gay before anything crazy happens. lol
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some may find the uncertainty exciting

Henchmen21 said:
Meh' I do enough of that by myself :(
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it's ok it's perfectly normal. everyone does it and if they say they don't they're lying!

But I'm unforgettable! Everyone loves my cool, dry wit :)
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99% of people identify each other based on avatars. once yours is gone you may as well be a different member
 
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Caladrius

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RatskyWatsky said:
99% of people identify each other based on avatars. once yours is gone you may as well be a different member
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If you change your avatar enough people start to remember who you are.

Of course I only frequent community threads so eh.

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Okay I chuckled.
 
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eKongDiddy

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GayGaf I need your input! Ok, I like this guy, like a lot, but I'm pretty sure he's straight. But, he does some stuff that makes me think he's gay or bi. I've seen him stare at me a lot sometimes in class. And unlike all my other guy friends, he actively tries to talk to me everyday. I guess it's just him being friendly, but idk. We also have some weird game where we call each other bitches (but he says bottom bitch), call each other names, etc. And he uses "If I wanted my comeback, I would have wiped it off your chin" a lot when were playing around. Wouldn't a straight person make a yo momma joke out of that?.

A few months ago I stayed over his house with another friend (I shared a bed with him, while the other borrowed a cot). He also sleeps in the buff, and he jokingly started to cuddle with me twice that night. When the other friend fell asleep, we started talking about random stuff. He then told me how he was real lonely and wished he could find somebody. I didn't know what to say, so just kinda changed the subject.

Yesterday we were talking on Facebook and he was talking about how lonely he was again. He just blankly said " (Myname) I'm lonely ". I just wanted to tell him right there that I like him, but told him that there's someone out there that likes him, and it'll all work out. I'm gonna stay at his for about a week, but I doubt anything is going to happen.

GayGaf what should I do?!
 
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Replicant

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Bladenic said:
Being able to tell who's a homo without the super obvious signs. I'm kinda decent at it though I'm hopeless with straight gays
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Yeah, I'm completely hopeless at that. Most guys that I like always turn out to be straight. *sigh* Burger King guy at my gym......

RatskyWatsky said:
radar for gays. it's a psychic power that some people possess that enables them to identify gays just by looking at them
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Henchmen21 said:
Allows you to locate gays attempting to invade your borders

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Well, I guess there's this guy who gave me the gay stare last night but he already know that I'm gay! I don't understand why he did that when he can just say "Hi". Our profile is pretty close to each other on Hornet (hooking up apps). Surely he must have noticed it during the countless hours he spent on it whilst in the gym.
 
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RatskyWatsky

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Simmer_E said:
And he uses "If I wanted my comeback, I would have wiped it off your chin" a lot when were playing around. Wouldn't a straight person make a yo momma joke out of that?
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Not necessarily. What's scary about straight people is that are liable to say anything at any given moment! So don't read too heavily into little comments like this. Unless he says something super overt like "I'm gay and I want to fuck you", in which case I think the chances are good that he's gay.

A few months ago I stayed over his house with another friend (I shared a bed with him, while the other borrowed a cot). He also sleeps in the buff, and he jokingly started to cuddle with me twice that night.
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How old are you guys? He slept naked in the bed with you? When he got into bed was he naked or did he remove his clothes while under the covers? Did he let you and the other guy see him naked? Were you naked too? Why didn't the other guy sleep in the bed with the two of you? Too small? The bed I mean? When he cuddled with you did he press his nudie bits against you? Or was it just an arm hug?

When the other friend fell asleep, we started talking about random stuff. He then told me how he was real lonely and wished he could find somebody. I didn't know what to say, so just kinda changed the subject. Unlike all my other guy friends, he actively tries to talk to me everyday. Yesterday we were talking on Facebook and he was talking about how lonely he was again. He just blankly said " (Myname) I'm lonely ". I just wanted to tell him right there that I like him, but told him that there's someone out there that likes him, and it'll all work out. I'm gonna stay at his for about a week, but I doubt anything is going to happen
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Sounds to me like he might be lonely. Have you considered that? Maybe the reason he talks to you everyday is because he's lonely? Maybe he just wants some company to stave off the loneliness?

GayGaf what should I do?!
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Learn how to cook. It's a valuable life skill that everyone should possess.
 
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Henchmen21

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RatskyWatsky said:
Unless he says something super overt like "I'm gay and I want to fuck you",
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You think that's too subtle?

How old are you guys? He slept naked in the bed with you? When he got into bed was he naked or did he remove his clothes while under the covers? Did he let you and the other guy see him naked? Were you naked too? Why didn't the other guy sleep in the bed with the two of you? Too small? The bed I mean? When he cuddled with you did he press his nudie bits against you? Or was it just an arm hug?
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LMAO I have an image in my head of you, head in your hands, eyes lit up, saying all that in one breath, anxious for more.

But yeah, I'm definitely sensing some red flags from the way you described the situation Simmer_E. Thinks like this can be tricky though. He may be gay/bi/bi-curious or he may just be a playful kind of person. Try and feel it out (not literally though).
 
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umop_3pisdn

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Simmer_E said:
GayGaf I need your input! Ok, I like this guy, like a lot, but I'm pretty sure he's straight. But, he does some stuff that makes me think he's gay or bi. I've seen him stare at me a lot sometimes in class. And unlike all my other guy friends, he actively tries to talk to me everyday. I guess it's just him being friendly, but idk. We also have some weird game where we call each other bitches (but he says bottom bitch), call each other names, etc. And he uses "If I wanted my comeback, I would have wiped it off your chin" a lot when were playing around. Wouldn't a straight person make a yo momma joke out of that?.

A few months ago I stayed over his house with another friend (I shared a bed with him, while the other borrowed a cot). He also sleeps in the buff, and he jokingly started to cuddle with me twice that night. When the other friend fell asleep, we started talking about random stuff. He then told me how he was real lonely and wished he could find somebody. I didn't know what to say, so just kinda changed the subject.

Yesterday we were talking on Facebook and he was talking about how lonely he was again. He just blankly said " (Myname) I'm lonely ". I just wanted to tell him right there that I like him, but told him that there's someone out there that likes him, and it'll all work out. I'm gonna stay at his for about a week, but I doubt anything is going to happen.

GayGaf what should I do?!
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Honestly as a general rule stop trying to figure other people out. It probably seems worth it, and I assume you're young? It becomes like the most annoying waste of time in the world. People are generally alarmingly straight forward when they want to or need to be (and I don't mean in the way that he comes out as bi to you or whatever), and since your friend definitely doesn't seem shy, I'd count him in with them. Signals have a degree of clarity to them, otherwise they're not signals, going from this it just seems like he's comfortable talking to you and being affectionate with you. Paradoxically that can be a strong signal that he has no sexual or romantic interest in you at all, because otherwise he wouldn't feel that comfortable with you! There's really nothing to draw from here, I'd do the very opposite of putting things under a microscope and take a step back, because looking at things like this more closely is usually the more deceiving of the two.
 
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mantidor

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Replicant said:
What is "Gaydar"? I don't think I have that.
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Oh it definitely exists, I say it as someone who was gaydar-less. Mine sucks anyway, but I guess hanging around many different types of gay people has made me tune it out and make it functional in a way. People who try their hardest to hide it are sometimes the more obvious, people really comfortable about their sexuality effortlessly show it, it's really something that is not easy to hide, and I'm not taking about being flamboyant, or feminine, or delicate. Maybe we do have some weird pheromone. :p
 
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Ahasverus

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Honestly, @Simmer_E, for me it sounds like he likes you, one thing is being comfortable, another is pretty much /crossing the line/ not only physycally but emotionally, that or he's a dick, because I can safely say he /knows/ what he causes to you when he does those things, because that can be felt, and it would ultra suck if he does it for his amusement of seeing you being helplessy attracted to him.

I'd say let things flow and make a few pushes these days, sounds like a great story :)
 
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Blood Diamonds

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mantidor said:
Oh it definitely exists, I say it as someone who was gaydar-less. Mine sucks anyway, but I guess hanging around many different types of gay people has made me tune it out and make it functional in a way. People who try their hardest to hide it are sometimes the more obvious, people really comfortable about their sexuality effortlessly show it, it's really something that is not easy to hide, and I'm not taking about being flamboyant, or feminine, or delicate. Maybe we do have some weird pheromone. :p
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Yeah, like I don't hide it anymore.. like seriously I just don't care about hiding it, I just act however I want, I'm not flamboyant or masculine I'm just.. there...
 
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Bladenic

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Everything else I would just say he could just be needing a friend and nothing else, but what straight guy sleeps completely naked beside a gay guy? I think he wants it. But if he's completely closeted, ie. not even out to himself, it's kinda hard to make a move since who the fuck knows how he could react.

You're staying with him for a week though, so who knows? If he's hot, I wish you luck.
 
zeopower6

zeopower6

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Just wanted to mention it here...

Guy in the Zyzz detroned OT thread is a gay porn star (lol).

On topic though, that guy is definitely into you and might just be waiting for you to make a move. The "I'm lonely" messages are a bit of a dead giveaway imo... but I guess you should wait it out a bit more if our assumptions are wrong.

Key points IMO:
- We also have some weird game where we call each other bitches (but he says bottom bitch), call each other names, etc.

- And he uses "If I wanted my comeback, I would have wiped it off your chin" a lot when were playing around.

- He also sleeps in the buff, and he jokingly started to cuddle with me twice that night.

- He then told me how he was real lonely and wished he could find somebody.

- Yesterday we were talking on Facebook and he was talking about how lonely he was again. He just blankly said " (Myname) I'm lonely ".

Everyone that I've known that has used 'bottom bitch' has been gay, lol. I don't even think straight guys know what a 'bottom bitch' is...?!
 
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Vazduh

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Koppai said:
Well,

Just lost my job. Fuck my life.
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I'm really sorry to hear that. Hopefully you find another job soon, fingers crossed!

Simmer_E said:
GayGaf I need your input!
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I'm gonna stay at his for about a week, but I doubt anything is going to happen. GayGaf what should I do?!
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From everything you said, I'm not convinced the guy is 100 % straight, he might be bi-curious. I mean, I don't think you'll ever hear a straight guy say bottom bitch. If you're staying at his place for a week, you're bound to find out, especially if you get to sleep next to him again. Oh, and if he tries to tell you he's lonely again and that he wishes he could find somebody, try this: just ask him what kind of person he's looking for, the answers might give you a few hints.

Although... I do get what umop_3pisdn said and I agree with him to some extent (especially that part about trying to figure people out), because if someone likes you, they'll usually show it to you in some way.

Bladenic said:
I'm hopeless with straight gays
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There's a guy I'm attracted to who sort of fits that description, one of my girlfriends is close to finding out whether he's ghei or not. I've joked with her that this will probably be my reaction when I find out:

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eKongDiddy

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Thanks for the comments guys! I'm actually still in the closet except to about 4 people, and this friend isn't one of them, so I doubt he knows I'm gay. Plus I'm one of those "straight gays". And we are in Highschool(I'm 17, he's 16).

@Ratsky

The other guy slept in the cot because he called it first, and my friend didn't have another one so we just decided to share the bed. And when he did the cuddle thing, he scooted over in the bed and wrapped his arms around me. I kinda freaked out so didn't think about any of that. When he did it the second time, I said "You know that's the second time you've done that" and he apologized and said something about crossing lines. And when we started sleeping, he turned off the lights and took his clothes off, then the other friend picked up something and said "Dude are these your underwear?" And started throwing them around.

@Umop

Yah, I feel like I'm reading to much into everything and don't want to mess anything up by examine everything that happens, but it's hard to get all this off my mind haha

@Zeopower6

You'd be surprised at what kids make jokes about nowadays haha

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From what I see around school, he has a lot of friends, so I don't see why he would be "friendship lonely".
 
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Bladenic

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Vazduh said:
There's a guy I'm attracted to who sort of fits that description, one of my girlfriends is close to finding out whether he's ghei or not. I've joked with her that this will probably be my reaction when I find out:

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Right?

Also for some reason I seem to recall you've mentioned you're from an European country, am I correct? If so, which and what's it like being gay there, etc.?
 
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lenovox1

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Simmer_E said:
Thanks for the comments guys! I'm actually still in the closet except to about 4 people, and this friend isn't one of them, so I doubt he knows I'm gay. Plus I'm one of those "straight gays". And we are in Highschool(I'm 17, he's 16).
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Oooooohhhh. You should have opened your post with the high school thing. He might be curious and fishing, who knows. The first question would be, "Am I comfortable coming out to this person? Am I comfortable expressing any interest in him?", before we even reach the exploration part.

The easiest thing to do, if you're comfortable, would be to spark up a conversation about sexuality, and then things would probably be made clear for you. But that's just how someone I knew went about things at that age.
 
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Vazduh

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Bladenic said:
Right?

Also for some reason I seem to recall you've mentioned you're from an European country, am I correct? If so, which and what's it like being gay there, etc.?
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Yes! I'm from Croatia. Since it's a predominantly Catholic country (85% of the population), you can imagine how it is for LGBT people here.

There was a referendum almost five months ago which was started by a conservative citizens' initiative called In the Name of the Family which managed to gather more than 700,000 signatures demanding a referendum. Basically, what they wanted was an amendment to the constitution where marriage would be defined as a union between a man and a woman.

Sadly, 65 % of the voters voted for and not against the amendment, so the constitution was changed after that, which means that same-sex unions cannot be called marriages, but still, because of the upcoming Life Partnership act (which was approved by the Government), those unions will finally have more rights than ever before. The new law still has to be approved by our Parliament, but I believe it will happen.

Aside from the unfortunate incident with the referendum, things have slowly started changing for the better in the last few years (for example, there's much less incidents during the Zagreb Pride parade than before), but it's going to take years before all of us can truly be out in our country. As it is right now, one can be out to their family/friends, but it's always best to be careful.

It's somewhat harder for us living in the eastern Croatian region (Slavonia) because it's far more conservative than the capital of Zagreb or the peninsula of Istria, which are super-progressive compared to the rest of the country. So, after I finally finish my thesis and graduate, it would probably be best for me if I could either move there or find a job outside Croatia. I'm hoping for the best, but we'll see :)
 
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Bladenic

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Good luck! I'm thankful I'm in the US and not in Romania, cuz that would suck. Admittedly I don't keep up what's going on there in regards to gay rights, though I doubt there's even anything going on as much as there is in Croatia.
 
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Vazduh

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Bladenic said:
Good luck! I'm thankful I'm in the US and not in Romania, cuz that would suck. Admittedly I don't keep up what's going on there in regards to gay rights, though I doubt there's even anything going on as much as there is in Croatia.
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Thank you! And lucky you being in the States :)

Yeah, I figured that Romania had to be more progressive than Croatia in that regard.
 
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GCX

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Vazduh said:
Yes! I'm from Croatia. Since it's a predominantly Catholic country (85% of the population), you can imagine how it is for LGBT people here.

There was a referendum almost five months ago which was started by a conservative citizens' initiative called In the Name of the Family which managed to gather more than 700,000 signatures demanding a referendum. Basically, what they wanted was an amendment to the constitution where marriage would be defined as a union between a man and a woman.

Sadly, 65 % of the voters voted for and not against the amendment, so the constitution was changed after that, which means that same-sex unions cannot be called marriages, but still, because of the upcoming Life Partnership act (which was approved by the Government), those unions will finally have more rights than ever before. The new law still has to be approved by our Parliament, but I believe it will happen.

Aside from the unfortunate incident with the referendum, things have slowly started changing for the better in the last few years (for example, there's much less incidents during the Zagreb Pride parade than before), but it's going to take years before all of us can truly be out in our country. As it is right now, one can be out to their family/friends, but it's always best to be careful.

It's somewhat harder for us living in the eastern Croatian region (Slavonia) because it's far more conservative than the capital of Zagreb or the peninsula of Istria, which are super-progressive compared to the rest of the country. So, after I finally finish my thesis and graduate, it would probably be best for me if I could either move there or find a job outside Croatia. I'm hoping for the best, but we'll see :)
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Thanks for the writing this, always interesting to hear what it's like in different parts of the world. :)

Here in Finland same-sex civil unions have been possible since 2002 but the equal marriage act has been stuck in political limbo for far too long. It will probably finally be made legal this year via citizen initiative. There's really no reason for not doing it since a clear majority of the population is in favor of gay marriage and adoption.

Btw Finnish national post revealed a rather gay stamp collection a few days ago to celebrate Tom of Finland's legacy:

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Almost makes me want to start sending letters lol. :p
 
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Vazduh

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GCX said:
Thanks for the writing this, always interesting to hear what it's like in different parts of the world. :)

Here in Finland same-sex civil unions have been possible since 2002 but the equal marriage act has been stuck in political limbo for far too long. It will probably finally be made legal this year via citizen initiative. There's really no reason for not doing it since a clear majority of the population is in favor of gay marriage and adoption.

Btw Finnish national post revealed a super gay stamp collection a few days ago to celebrate Tom of Finland's legacy:

Almost makes me want to start sending letters lol. :p
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Thank you for taking the time to read my post :) I always like reading about that, too. It's so nice to hear that the citizens of Finland are fighting for marriage legality, you make us Balkanians look like cavemen in comparison, lol

Btw, I heard about Tom of Finland before, but never bothered to check out his work so thank you for linking the Wiki article, I'm looking at some of his drawings right now .
 
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Replicant

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Simmer_E said:
The other guy slept in the cot because he called it first, and my friend didn't have another one so we just decided to share the bed. And when he did the cuddle thing, he scooted over in the bed and wrapped his arms around me. I kinda freaked out so didn't think about any of that. When he did it the second time, I said "You know that's the second time you've done that" and he apologized and said something about crossing lines. And when we started sleeping, he turned off the lights and took his clothes off, then the other friend picked up something and said "Dude are these your underwear?" And started throwing them around.
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Sounds hot. Since he initiated the hugging, you should have responded by snuggling into him to see his reaction. Or maybe placing your finger and tracing his arm. I mean, he jumped into bed with you nekkid FFS. I don't know what the custom is there in your country but I don't know any guy, gay or straight, who jumped into bed nekkid with another guy unless they want to have fun with their bed partner.
 
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zeopower6

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Simmer_E said:
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I see the 16/17 thing now... hm... well, if he mentions the lonely thing again (on Facebook or something) maybe ask him what he means? "Well, what do you mean by lonely?" so you can get some clarification. It kinda sounds like he thinks you're straight and was trying to gauge if you were gay from the new details you mentioned :x
 
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Sai-kun

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Sleeping naked = yes

Cuddling to sleep = i can't :( I try, but I just get too warm/uncomfortable wrapping myself around someone/having someone around me. need mah space when I sleep!
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Cuddle for 5 minutes then give each other space to sleep like people actually sleep.
 
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