E3 isn't the crowd that they would want to announce QoL for, though.
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Play Nintendo - Announcing Nintendo @ E3 2014
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E3 isn't the crowd that they would want to announce QoL for, though.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I love you for posting this
Thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTxf4rVqF6s
Fellow gaffer Maximilian Dood thinks Nintendo is doing a great thing for Smash fans.
Fellow gaffer Maximilian Dood thinks Nintendo is doing a great thing for Smash fans.
Hero of Legend
Member
Reggie should take charge of the presentation, even though Iwata has a special charm to his speech pattern, Reggie has one of the best ways of speaking ever.
I mean to me when he speaks, you listen, his delivery is spot on and just feels perfect, you know?
Iwata can come on board for one spot, but I think it'd be smart to let this be Reggie's presentation. Last years E3 Direct had ZERO appearance by Reggie, which I found to be extremely bizarre.
I mean to me when he speaks, you listen, his delivery is spot on and just feels perfect, you know?
Iwata can come on board for one spot, but I think it'd be smart to let this be Reggie's presentation. Last years E3 Direct had ZERO appearance by Reggie, which I found to be extremely bizarre.
Oh, he's hyped, alright.
GustyGardens
Banned
The Smash Bros. Invitational is a wonderful idea. I was in the crowd that hoped Nintendo would go back to the traditional press conference, but that was mostly because of the mishaps that happened last year. This year, however, they seem to have refined it quite a bit, not only that, but it mostly focused on the gamer. I'm all for that.
I'm not too worried about the mass media covering Nintendo. The company decided, once again, to do something different and that's what is going to get them the coverage they want. Partnering with Best Buy will lead to great things. I really hope they strive to keep that relationship alive.
I'm not too worried about the mass media covering Nintendo. The company decided, once again, to do something different and that's what is going to get them the coverage they want. Partnering with Best Buy will lead to great things. I really hope they strive to keep that relationship alive.
I want Bill to speak.
StreetsAhead
Member
"The one you've been waiting for."
Well, in all fairness, it's not like they will try and de-hype the conference 6 weeks out. Even Sony knows that you have to talk about you 'exciting' E3 plans.
Nintendo doesn't have enough announcements to make, that's my suspicion as to why they're not holding a traditional live E3 conference.
More speculatively, it might be a continuation of Iwata's alleged strategy of making himself indispensable and strengthen his hold on his CEO position by undermining NoA. Least likely in my opinion would be that they're simply incompetent of marketing themselves well, though this is possible given their history.
While as a Nintendo fan I'm fine with Nintendo Directs or similar direct-to-consumer ways of marketing, the reality is the company needs all the help it can get at this point. They need media attention that comes with a live conference, they need buy-in from journalists. Apple during Jobs' time did this very well (though he went, I think, a few steps further into almost masterful manipulation of western media outlets, something far beyond Iwata or even Reggie).
Some are suggesting Nintendo just ignore the grumbles from the media, brushing aside the journalists' call that Nintendo is risking irrelevance. That's valiant and, in my opinion, foolish.
More speculatively, it might be a continuation of Iwata's alleged strategy of making himself indispensable and strengthen his hold on his CEO position by undermining NoA. Least likely in my opinion would be that they're simply incompetent of marketing themselves well, though this is possible given their history.
While as a Nintendo fan I'm fine with Nintendo Directs or similar direct-to-consumer ways of marketing, the reality is the company needs all the help it can get at this point. They need media attention that comes with a live conference, they need buy-in from journalists. Apple during Jobs' time did this very well (though he went, I think, a few steps further into almost masterful manipulation of western media outlets, something far beyond Iwata or even Reggie).
Some are suggesting Nintendo just ignore the grumbles from the media, brushing aside the journalists' call that Nintendo is risking irrelevance. That's valiant and, in my opinion, foolish.
OK, but even if you're watching a live concert on TV it's a step above the norm (CD, media player etc).
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
The ND will probably as long as their regular conferences are without fluff. That logic is very bad.
This entire posts reads of conspiracy bullshit. Holy crap.
LordOfChaos
Member
Of the bigwigs at Nintendo, yeah, I guess. But otherwise, there's something I dislike about his presentation style. Like at the Wii U reveal itself, it felt bored and robotic.
Sure, but have you ever seen Nintendo actually hyping their E3 presence before? Aside from announcing when it will take place.
The only people arguing Nintendo will be irrelevant by distancing from the press are the press. Nintendo is being more open than ever and saying fuck off to the self-proclaimed gate keepers of the consumers who are actually the ones reveling in the inclusiveness E3 attendance brings.
Amazeballs
Member
It's actually nice to hear a youtubers opinion on the subject. They've been more relevant to me than the gaming press as of late.
That said, I'm anxious to see whether or not Nintendo's grassroots approach to marketing will pay off come E3.
Neff
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The only people arguing Nintendo will be irrelevant by distancing from the press are the press. Nintendo is being more open than ever and saying fuck off to the self-proclaimed gate keepers of the consumers who are actually the ones reveling in the inclusiveness E3 attendance brings.
Wish I'd said this because it's perfect. Bravo.
Lord Azrael
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Twist, it was Reggie Fils-a-Mech all along.
Teletraan1
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I think all the other stuff will soften the blow of no Live show but I still think a live show is the way to go. Oh well.
The only people arguing Nintendo will be irrelevant by distancing from the press are the press. Nintendo is being more open than ever and saying fuck off to the self-proclaimed gate keepers of the consumers who are actually the ones reveling in the inclusiveness E3 attendance brings.
Man I wish someone would make a gif with the girl in the meeting talking to Reggie about future plans and when Reggie mentions E3 she says " I thought you weren't going to E3 this year?" Then he blasts her with the laser eyes.
A CEO who's at risk of being ousted, who staunchly continues course despite rising disapproval from shareholders, who has clearly been ensuring the board of directors becomes less and less independent of him, doing all he can to stay in his position? There are enough clues in Iwata's actions to raise the suspicion that he is effectively ensuring there are no clear choices within Nintendo to replace him.
I would venture a bet that there are plenty of people following Nintendo's stock professionally who think the same. Anyway, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary at all, it happens very often, whether it's Nintendo or Goldman Sachs.
That being said, it is speculation at this point, though nothing tinfoil-hatish as you're making it sound.
Your entire argument falls apart in the first few words. Iwata isn't at risk of being ousted. Not even close. There is basically no way, except (literally) violent revolution within Nintendo that Iwata is in danger of losing anything.
That isn't how things work in Nintendo. The board are all friends of his. He won't step down until he decides to.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Shit...Now I want to see that. I command somebody make that..! No I demand!
StreetsAhead
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No, that's true. They generally don't hype up the conferences much. This year seems like they're doing more work than last year, too. Hopefully they bring a ton of games; Zelda is a start (and I'm looking forward to it immensely). Having no bi-monthly direct in April and having no January Direct like last year means that, potentially, a lot of announcements have been saved up for E3 this time.
The exciting thing, for me, is that time and time again we've been hit with game announcements that come from left field. Whether it's Bayonetta 2, TW101, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong, SMT X FE or whatever, in a world where games and information are constantly leaked ahead of time, it is impressive to be surprised.
I do find a lot of this conversation ironic though; two years ago there was much conversation about how relevant E3 still was in a world of social media and broadband. Now a company tries to do something different, that takes advantage of the fact that it's 2014 and not 1996 and a lot of the conversation is about how bad an idea 'abandoning' tradition is. From the gaming media, used to being the buttered-up middle man, I can perhaps understand a little bitterness (no one likes to realize they're not as relevant as they thought they were), but to see hate from the general population about feels a little bizarre.
god the trash around. Iwata is beholden to shareholders, if they want him gone he is going. the approval rating thing is due soon.
There aren't enough shares to out Iwata in public hands. Simple as that.
The only way he can be removed is by the Board of Directors. And they're all long time friends of Iwata's. It's not happening.
Every single year...
Remember E3 2012 when they announced that they had so much content that they needed four different video streams to reveal all of the information?
Never Forget
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Every single year...
Remember E3 2012 when they announced that they had so much content that they needed four different video streams to reveal all of the information?
Never Forget
I barely even remember that. I mean, I remember the conference, but what were the 3 other streams?
PhoenixDawn
Member
Every single year...
Remember E3 2012 when they announced that they had so much content that they needed four different video streams to reveal all of the information?
Never Forget
I still believe there was a Metroid reveal hidden behind those fireworks...
You'll have to find me that quote because I don't remember that at all.
nintendo had 10, Yamauchi had 10 which some were sold. worst case, 80% are public.
The only people arguing Nintendo will be irrelevant by distancing from the press are the press. Nintendo is being more open than ever and saying fuck off to the self-proclaimed gate keepers of the consumers who are actually the ones reveling in the inclusiveness E3 attendance brings.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Thankyou so much.
Well this time the Treehouse guys are doing it rather than Iwata, right? So if they make it as amusing as their Tomodachi Life videos then I'd rather have that than a stage show with stuff such as EA partnership announcements and vitality sensors that don't amount to anything later on
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Treehouse doing it? If so Nintendo has won E3. I know the haters will disagree but they already won E3 and yall are gonna have to admit it.Well this time the Treehouse guys are doing it rather than Iwata, right? So if they make it as amusing as their Tomodachi Life videos then I'd rather have that than a stage show with stuff such as EA partnership announcements and vitality sensors that don't amount to anything later on
You guys are totally right. I bet Obama would've been fine to not come to the televised debates, he could've just lobbed arguments via Youtube and would've been fine.
Sigh....
It's not even that the arguments AGAINST the press are incorrect. A lot of you are right, they do get in the way of info sometimes.
The problem is it's irrelevant as they're still the way most people get their news at this point in time and to actively piss them off is the height of stupidity (assuming one even believes the conspiracies).
It doesn't matter if it's fair or right, it just is.
Sigh....
It's not even that the arguments AGAINST the press are incorrect. A lot of you are right, they do get in the way of info sometimes.
The problem is it's irrelevant as they're still the way most people get their news at this point in time and to actively piss them off is the height of stupidity (assuming one even believes the conspiracies).
It doesn't matter if it's fair or right, it just is.
nintendors
Member
Im invited....
I guess Nintendo having 3 booths on the show floor will make my trip worth it.
And although I'm not that intreasted in what Sony & Micro are offering, I was planning to attend / visit their booths anyway.
Does any individual own enough to actually do anything? If so, then change would have been enacted when everyone wanted them to go mobile. Iwata isn't even close to being in danger. And it's conspiracy to think that Nintendo not having a live conference indicates he is.
Except this isn't a debate. It's console warrior bullshit. The only difference what Nintendo is doing and what MS and Sony are doing is that the latter have an audience of people they personally invited to watch them.
For everyone else, it's the exact same thing as it's always been.
StreetsAhead
Member
Except this isn't a debate or a war; it's a consumer electronics expo.
astrogamer
Member
I'm guessing the pre-show Nintendo Direct, and the 3DS showcase but I can't recall the 4th