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[meanspartan]

So, they are taking a very good idea and fucking it up with their money-grabby bullshit. (See also: proprietary overpriced Vita storage hurting a great platform)

Sony, if this was $10-15 a month for a couple dozen games from Ps1/Ps2/Ps3 that rotated every so often, I'd be SO down. But I am not doing you a la carte bullshit.

 

[shem935]

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[panty]

The service isn't even out yet and I have no idea what the final pricing will be but fuck you Sony, you filthy money-grabby bullshit company and your stupid ideas.

I'm like totally out right now, thanks for nothing.

 

[CoolNumber9]

They have got to do a subscription model!!

 

[Metalingus5150]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Service is dead before it even starts.

 

[Garcia]

Just a reminder, Sony: You're not only competing against your own previous consoles but also against piracy. You have to offer very, very reasonable prices if you want to compete against free.

 

[Hawaii Jeff]

This is DOA unless they do a subscription.

Either way, I'm not really into renting - I'd rather buy.

And PS+ always has so many freebies & sales anyway...

 

[meanspartan]

Just a reminder, Sony: You're not only competing against your own previous consoles but also against piracy. You have to offer very, very reasonable prices if you want to compete against free.

Yup, while music piracy isnt dead by a longshot, Itunes proved a decade ago that when you go convenient and cheap, you can make bank.

 

[kvothe]

Just a reminder, Sony: You're not only competing against your own previous consoles but also against piracy. You have to offer very, very reasonable prices if you want to compete against free.

I'm sure this post will be read at the next board of directors meeting.

 

[Jindrax]

20$...
For me the only way that would be ok is if it's a brand new game for atleast 3 weeks.
Otherwise I don't see why anyone would pay that much...

Just a reminder, Sony: You're not only competing against your own previous consoles but also against piracy. You have to offer very, very reasonable prices if you want to compete against free.

Since when is piracy on playstation 3-4 or even the vita a thing??? (srs)
I remember PSP but that's about it...

 

[illmatic22]

I don't hate the service, just not a fan of the pricing. Hopefully they will tweak the pricing, I do think this can be something worth having, if priced accordingly.

 

[HI. BILLY MAYS HERE]

The service isn't even out yet and I have no idea what the final pricing will be but fuck you Sony, you filthy money-grabby bullshit company and your stupid ideas.

I'm like totally out right now, thanks for nothing.

Getting a little carried away aren't we ?

 

[clifftrapremover]

I was skeptical of the service to begin with but these prices kill it entirely. I understand the desire to rent games but people want more Redbox price ranges.

 

[zychi]

lol at the people saying "Sony needs of make a profit off this, the prices are justified"

These are games that are worth nothing at Gamestop used. You can buy the majority of them for less than $20 new, even on the PSN store

So what if there's a few hundred games on there, Sony should strike deals with the companies like they do for the PS+ game so this is Netflix for games. $10/week (similar to Blockbuster and Hollywood Video rentals before they died) would be fine.

But I'd prefer $15-$20 a month to access everything.

 

[civilstrife]

Since when is piracy on playstation 3-4 or even the vita a thing??? (srs)
I remember PSP but that's about it...

PS3 piracy has been a thing for years. Also, all multiplatform games on the service are piratable on PC.

They need to pull a Netflix and fast. Netflix works because their delivery system actually competes with piracy in terms of sheer convenience.

 

[watershed]

Whoever gets the first "netflix for games" service right is gonna make a ton of money. Obviously it won't be Nintendo so that leaves MS, Sony, or someone else.

 

[Kayant]

Final Fantasy XIII-2
$4.99 for 4 Hours
$7.99 for 7 days

Holy shit... WTH is a 7 day rental only $3 more expensive? Those prices are damn silly and why does the 4 hour one exist. They really need better pricing and a sub service if not this isn't going to do well IMO.

 

[watershed]

Holy shit... WTH is a 7 day rental only $3 more expensive? Those prices are damn silly and why does the 4 hour one exist. They really need better pricing and a sub service if not this isn't going to do well IMO.

Maybe the 4 hour option is only there to make the 7 day rental more attractive. Companies have been known to do this in the past.

 

[Lana Del Rey]

There are games that cost 5 dollars for 4 hours and 30 dollars for 90 days, like Deus Ex

 

[jwk94]

Holy shit... WTH is a 7 day rental only $3 more expensive? Those prices are damn silly and why does the 4 hour one exist. They really need better pricing and a sub service if not this isn't going to do well IMO.

"Only $3? Might as well go with the 7 day rental."

- Joe consumer

 

[John Caboose]

I'm not even sure I would like Wolfenstein but it would be worth it to find out by renting it for a few days for a reasonable price. I hope MS gets rentals for X1 too. If it is streaming or not doesn't matter to me though.

 

[xKilltheMx]

Whoa I can finally try this out.

Edit: I mean now the NDA pops up for me so Nvm.

 

[Memorabilia]

PS+ has been such a good value I've had high hopes for PSNow. But judging by the price points shown in this thread then it looks like Sony is going to fuck this up from jump.

If they were offering a Netflix style service thats different. But $20 rentals a la carte? No thanks. I have zero interest in being ripped off. Moreover, the entire premise of an a la carte service with these prices is offensive to me as it seems deliberately designed to take advantage of the ignorant and uninformed (or lazy).

I'm guessing Sony will have to learn the hard way. This is a bad value proposition, so after the market rejects it lets hope they learn quicker than MS did with XBL Gold. It took far too long for MS to wake up and start trying to compete with PS+.

 

[meanspartan]

"Only $3? Might as well go with the 7 day rental."

- Joe consumer

Some fucking suit that makes way more money than me thought of that and his Boss suit thought it was brilliant. When pricing ends up killing PS Now before its even out, they'll be let go with gigantic severance packages.

 

[Memorabilia]

Some fucking suit that makes way more money than me thought of that and his Boss suit thought it was brilliant. When pricing ends up killing PS Now before its even out, they'll be let go with gigantic severance packages.

I'd bet this is a pretty accurate assessment/prediction.

 

[xKilltheMx]

Wait a minute. Wow, they changed the available games and all the stuff that used to be free is not available. I'm mad I didn't "buy" all those other ones from the batch on there when I signed up.

 

[thepotatoman]

I thought maybe they had could have some miracle proprietary caching mechanism that could help justify pushing a rental model besides pure $$$.

One thing rental allows them to do is to have some crazy discounts and packages for their marketing teams to drive headlines and adoption. Once you go with an all-you-can-eat buffet like Netflix, there isn't all that much you can do in terms of special promotions.

All they need is to announce a big name game coming to the service and that'll bring plenty of attention to the service. And there's always a different big name game that's just becoming just old enough where it makes sense to put it on the service.

What sounds more absurd if you want to play a big exclusive game but don't own the console, $20 for a game rental or $400 for a console plus whatever the price is to buy the game? Like I said, this pricing model would clearly not be aimed towards enthusiasts.

PS4 games aren't even announced for this yet, so the consoles are a lot cheaper than 399. And I question how many people are honestly really going to know about and be interested in this feature that aren't current playstation fans. I would be willing to bet right now that the largest userbase that will be using PS Now will be using it on PS4, even if you combine every last tv set into one number.

Just a reminder, Sony: You're not only competing against your own previous consoles but also against piracy. You have to offer very, very reasonable prices if you want to compete against free.

Indeed. I can't believe they can't at least do a netflix subscription model for PS1 and PS2 games. How much more money is even left in games that are that old?

 

[immortal-joe]

So they're following the movie-rental model for short-term renting, which is retarded, given that the interactive aspect means there's no set "running time" for my game.

They already said a subscription model is coming, so cut this shit out and present that model now.

As it stands, this is embarrassingly dumb.

 

[Hatchtag]

Wait a minute. Wow, they changed the available games and all the stuff that used to be free is not available. I'm mad I didn't "buy" all those other ones from the batch on there when I signed up.

To be fair, when I last used the beta, almost all the free games ended up being PS+ titles shortly afterwards (I.e. Skullgirls).
But yeah, stupid that they don't even have a beta out on Vita, but they're starting to charge for rentals. The service is not done enough to do that yet, imo.

 

[serenewarfare]

So, they are taking a very good idea and fucking it up with their money-grabby bullshit. (See also: proprietary overpriced Vita storage hurting a great platform)

Proprietary storage was far, far from the big thing hampering the Vita. An issue? Yeah, but not significant in the device's underperformance.

 

[immortal-joe]

I would like to think that the feedback from the beta is that these prices make no sense, and Sony is testing the value proposition and has a Plan B (and C) ready behind the scenes.

They HAD to know this pricing model was at least risky.

 

[xKilltheMx]

To be fair, when I last used the beta, almost all the free games ended up being PS+ titles shortly afterwards (I.e. Skullgirls).
But yeah, stupid that they don't even have a beta out on Vita, but they're starting to charge for rentals. The service is not done enough to do that yet, imo.

I just wanted to try it with more twitch based stuff to see how much the lag would affect it. I don't think they should be charging either honestly, it works for sure but this is still a beta and you want us to test your servers for you. Maybe up to the 7 days one be free and pay for the others, but this is pretty Shitty.

 

[serenewarfare]

I find it kind of odd how quick everyone is to crucify Sony over prices for a service that isn't even public yet. Odds are that they are pricing stuff now to gather feedback and adjust going forward. Just reading this thread, you would think there was some sort of official announcement on all this. Just keep in mind, there's a reason why this is still in beta.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

 

[Reallink]

Gamefly GC's are $36 for 3 months, 2 games at a time ($12 per month). Sony are out of their fucking mind with these prices.

 

[Velcro Fly]

PS Now has become PS Never if these pricing models are true

 

[BigDug13]

Gamefly GC's are $36 for 3 months, 2 games at a time. Sony are out of their fucking mind with these prices.

And that's applicable to current PS4 games as well. If you have a PS3 launch fat model, you can basically buy PS1/PS2/PS3 used games on Amazon and OWN them with zero input lag for less than the cost of a week's rental over PS Now.

Is this what we can expect from a console future that gets rid of physical games? If so, count me out.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

If you’re looking for specifics, Saints Row, for example, currently has two rental options: 4 hours for $4.99 and 90 days for $29.99. They also have “newer” titles, such as Final Fantasy XIII-2, but nothing from any of the trade shows that we’ve seen so far.

FFS, that's shocking.

http://ps4daily.com/2014/06/playstation-now-beta-updates-outed/

 

[hodayathink]

I was skeptical of the service to begin with but these prices kill it entirely. I understand the desire to rent games but people want more Redbox price ranges.

Outside of the first option (which is pretty ridiculous), this is actually much cheaper than Redbox for the amount of time allotted. If you're keeping the game for more than 3 days, it's literally cheaper than Redbox.

 

[serenewarfare]

FFS, that's shocking.

http://ps4daily.com/2014/06/playstation-now-beta-updates-outed/

Saints Row is an anomaly. Most aren't that pricey.

 

[thebigmanjosh]

Arent these prices set by the publishers for this part of the beta? I remember in the press release sony said they would be testing out different options.

It's nice to see that some of them are free too. I guess we all just need to spam those and send good feedback for the free titles to get the message across because $20 for 90 days is just ridiculous, especially for some of these older games

 

[FoxDie]

Looks like they are trying to figure out the best pricing system , 20$ is crazy.
They should make a subscription service that include ps3\some ps4 games and some newer games on the side for 10-15$ max per week.

 

[danthefan]

You can buy Saints Row 4 for less that $30 from the PSN store. Surely some mistake in the pricing?

 

[Caayn]

Holy shit... WTH is a 7 day rental only $3 more expensive? Those prices are damn silly and why does the 4 hour one exist. They really need better pricing and a sub service if not this isn't going to do well IMO.

Or pay a few bucks more and play as long as you want.

Amazon
Gamestop

Saints Row is an anomaly. Most aren't that pricey.

I really hope so. If that's the norm than I don't see PS Now taking off. I don't know which version of Saints Row that is, but you can pick up any version for less than that. Doesn't make PS Now that attractive.

 

[Neonsands]

and how many free rentals a month do you get with plus?

 

[thebigmanjosh]

Looks like they are trying to figure out the best pricing system , 20$ is crazy.
They should make a subscription service that include ps3\some ps4 games and some newer games on the side for 10-15$ max per week.

Well under "My PS Now Games" there's an option called channel so maybe there will be channels we can subscribe to and get access to a number of games?

 

[jwk94]

Or pay a few bucks more and play as long as you want.

Amazon
Gamestop
I really hope so. If that's the norm than I don't see PS Now taking off. I don't know which version of Saints Row that is, but you can pick up any version for less than that. Doesn't make PS Now that attractive.

If you can just buy it, then this isn't for you.

 

[ramparter]

Well it's good Sony let's publishers set the prices.

Instead of freaking out, people should just be more conscious of what they choose to pay for.

LOL at Saint Row 30$ for 90$. You can probably buy it for much less right now.

 

[GoofsterStud]

Wow. Not even a chance to test a fighter or platformer to get an idea if the service is viable before charging.

Not cool.

 

[Kayant]

"Only $3? Might as well go with the 7 day rental."

- Joe consumer

That trap looool.... Seriously though these prices aint that great. A sub like service like Netflix would make this thing fly (at a reasonable price obviously even then it's a better pricing model). What this kind of service needs is a sub option to do well.