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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)

Mononoke

Banned
This is not anti consumer .... Geez this is getting to bayonetta 2 levels now.

Bayonetta 2 made sense given there wasn't going to be a sequel without funding from a major publisher. So the choice was no game at all, or sequel on an exclusive platform. Yes it sucks, but it's understandable. Whereas here it makes no sense for the game to be exclusive. MS is desperate to move units because of their own mistakes, and are pulling a scummy move.
 
Wow that's some fucking news to wake up to.

Crystal or SE whoever agreed to this is fucking crazy.

I'll miss ya Lara but Nathan will fill your void.
 
Wow. Hard to believe SE would do this. Must be a big number on MS's check.

TR 2013 I thought was an awful cut and paste job mimicking current trends but there was enough meat there to make me interested in a sequel if they brought back actual tomb raiding. At least I can play Uncharted 4.

I'm fine with stuff like Bayonetta 2, Sunset Overdrive and Bloodborne but this is a blatant business move that has nothing to do maintianing IP or creative control. Feels bad, man.
 
It was funny reading posts like this about Titanfall a year ago. Then the real story came out that the game almost got cancelled because they ran out of money, and Microsoft stepped in to fund it, thus making it exclusive.

We all heard the reports that Square Enix was disappointed by Tomb Raider's sales last year. We don't know what kind of things were going on behind the scenes with these projects.

The "savior MS" narrative is a bunch of BS. MS helped TF yes, but the they paid to keep it off PS platforms plain and simple. It was scummy then, it's scummy now
 
I love how Darrell Gallagher on the tumbler posts tells people to post comments and they'd respond to any questions when there's no way they'll respond to crap.

The fact that they actually felt the need to issue that type of statements tells you everything. They knew know how this is going to go over.
 
NeoGaf in a nutshell:

PS4 exclusive: "Great move Sony, good on you guys *hugs ps4*

Xbox One exclusive: "Fuck M$$$$$$$, using shitloads of cash again to actually compete in a business world, I'm not buying it! (I own a Xbox One, or at least I'm saying that to seem less biased)."

Yes, that explains all the hate on this forum for Sunset Overdrive and Scalebound. /sarcasm
 
Haven't played a Tomb Raider game since 2 on the playstation, so this doesn't matter to me, but I hate exclusives for any console (unless made in house) it's not fair on the fans.
 

Sioen

Member
This is seriously fucked up I bought the ps4 version together with thousands of other people and they do this?? Fuck that
 

JimmyRustler

Gold Member
I love how Darrell Gallagher on the tumbler posts tells people to post comments and they'd respond to any questions when there's no way they'll respond to crap.
Really wanna know what's going on on the CD forum right now. Must be imploding. Unfortunately can't access from work.
 
This is crap...

I have both systems, just so I can play exclusives, but there is no way I am buying this.

You have exclusives that are made in house.

You have exclusives, like the recent Sunset Overdrive, where the developer gets to keep control of their product, so staying on one system makes sense.

You have exclusives, like Bayonetta 2, where one of the big companies helps fund the game which would have never been made otherwise.

With all of these I have no problem buying the game and is the reason I own all the major systems.

Then you have crap like this where one company pays to keep the game off other systems. This is complete anti-consumer shit. This is not helping the gamer. This is not creating exciting content for your fans. This is not making me want to support your company by hiring the most talented artist in the industry and giving them a chance to wow me. This is 100% complete mafia bullshit of taking out all competition and leaving me one single choice.

fuck you I am not supporting this...

Great post.
 

Freeman

Banned
This is not anti consumer .... Geez this is getting to bayonetta 2 levels now.

Of course it is, its making it hard for most of their audience to play the game. Once again MS relying on their toxic tactics instead of investing on long term things for their platform.

Both SE and MS made a huge mistake.

Sony is keeping it classy, I hope they continue to do so without sinking to MS level.
 
NeoGaf in a nutshell:

PS4 exclusive: "Great move Sony, good on you guys *hugs ps4*

Xbox One exclusive: "Fuck M$$$$$$$, using shitloads of cash again to actually compete in a business world, I'm not buying it! (I own a Xbox One, or at least I'm saying that to seem less biased)."

Sony: Build their own IP (Bloodborne)
Microsoft: ....
 
I'm starting to wonder how much money Microsoft had to drop to get it. I don't feel like it's similar to their launch exclusives or Bayo 2, because none of those games sold like Tomb Raider did, IIRC.
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
This is nothing like the Bayonetta 2 announcement. Tomb Raider reboot was actually a decent selling game on all platforms; making the next one exclusive to one only harms the franchise. I doubt Microsoft would have paid a lot for this IP.
 

FranXico

Member
Interesting. I have no problem with this. In the other thread about "What would it take for people to buy an Xbox One" most of the people in it said "Exclusives."

I think people were thinking of first party exciting new IPs when they said that, not moneyhats to prevent games that were designed as multiplatform games from start from being released on other platforms.

Big difference.
 

Sanke__

Member
I just feel bad that now the game is going to sell like shit and there won't be a 3rd one.

Wouldn't be near as stupid if Microsoft bought crystal dynamics but instead they just continue to harvest what they want from developers instead of investing in the whole studio.
 

darkwing

Member
Supidest decision ever. They just lost millions of sales. By holiday 2015 how much do you think the PS4 sales will be? They're really comfortable ignoring that installed base? Don't get me started on europe when nothing MS does will change sales over there. PS4 has already won that market. This will not get me to buy a XB1 at all.

I'm pretty sure MS paid the amount of lost sales on other platforms unless SE is really stupid and settled for a lower amount
 

Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
NeoGaf in a nutshell:

PS4 exclusive: "Great move Sony, good on you guys *hugs ps4*

Xbox One exclusive: "Fuck M$$$$$$$, using shitloads of cash again to actually compete in a business world, I'm not buying it! (I own a Xbox One, or at least I'm saying that to seem less biased)."

What 3rd party games has Sony paid for exclusivity lately?
 

mreddie

Member
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Lara Croft has joined the Alliance!

/Didn't Tomb Raider DE sell well on PS4? Also, this is almost similar when Legend was just for 360 for awhile.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Later that day...

Half Life 3 exlusive on PS4.

I know you're joking, but Valve makes enough money from Steam alone that it could never release another game again, let alone be the position where accepting a cheque for even temporary exclusivity would be worthy of consideration. ;)
 

Pillville

Member
NeoGaf in a nutshell:

PS4 exclusive: "Great move Sony, good on you guys *hugs ps4*

Xbox One exclusive: "Fuck M$$$$$$$, using shitloads of cash again to actually compete in a business world, I'm not buying it! (I own a Xbox One, or at least I'm saying that to seem less biased)."

Because Sony announces that they are CREATING exclusives, MS announces that they are PAYING to keep games off other systems.
 
The first game sold over 7 million copies. It is extremely likely they would've made a sequel anyway.

Bayo 2 was a game that would've been cancelled if Nintendo hadn't stepped in.

Not the same thing at all. Pure moneyhats just suck.

When Bayo 2 was first revealed, we did not know that. All we knew was that Nintendo had paid to make Bayo 2 a Wii U exclusive. The whole narrative about them stepping in to save the game was only revealed later on. Which makes the initial reaction thread for Bayo 2 pretty comparable to this one in terms of salt. Incidentally, we do not know yet the behind-the-scenes workings that resulted in RotTR being Xbone exclusive. It could be that Microsoft are funding the majority of development themselves. It could be that Microsoft paid for it, allowing Square to put their own money into other games instead.

Likely? No. But not impossible. And crucially, at this stage, we do not know the wherefores and the why-to's. I'd prefer to wait until more of the story comes out before writing off Microsoft as the Palpatine of gaming.
 

Porcupeth

Banned
I hope people realize that this means Tomb Raider will get cancelled (as a franchise)
It will sell nowhere near enough for SE to be satisfied, and they'll axe it. This is bad news for everyone.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
I don't understand the strategy of cutting out the biggest fan Base for your game, and then doing so by putting it on the lagging console. Do they seriously think this game will do Uncharted numbers on one console when it could barely do it over 5 different devices? It was announced as a multi platform title too. Fuck off. I have the first game on PC, PS3,and PS4. So much for supporting you with my wallet SE.
 
This is crap...

I have both systems, just so I can play exclusives, but there is no way I am buying this.

You have exclusives that are made in house.

You have exclusives, like the recent Sunset Overdrive, where the developer gets to keep control of their product, so staying on one system makes sense.

You have exclusives, like Bayonetta 2, where one of the big companies helps fund the game which would have never been made otherwise.

With all of these I have no problem buying the game and is the reason I own all the major systems.

Then you have crap like this where one company pays to keep the game off other systems. This is complete anti-consumer shit. This is not helping the gamer. This is not creating exciting content for your fans. This is not making me want to support your company by hiring the most talented artist in the industry and giving them a chance to wow me. This is 100% complete mafia bullshit of taking out all competition and leaving me one single choice.

fuck you I am not supporting this...

I agree.
 
NeoGaf in a nutshell:

PS4 exclusive: "Great move Sony, good on you guys *hugs ps4*

Xbox One exclusive: "Fuck M$$$$$$$, using shitloads of cash again to actually compete in a business world, I'm not buying it! (I own a Xbox One, or at least I'm saying that to seem less biased)."

What was the last major multiplatform series that Sony paid to not release on other consoles?
 
Imo, this is bigger news for Microsoft attempting to claw its way back, because of the lack of info on the game itself before now.

Welp, I probably would have played it, but I'm not buying an Xbox for it. You lost one.
 

Rozart

Member
on Bayonetta 2. Nintendo paid money to make a game. Microsoft paid money to cancel a game.

Exactly. Sunset Overdrive, Bayonetta and that MS-exclusive Platinum game =/= to paying a company to not release a game (that would have obviously been multi-platform) on other systems.
 

Jetman

Member
Wow, well, PS4 owner here, but I'm not gonna lie - this will be one of the reasons I'll end up getting an X-Bone next holiday (well, and Halo 5). Really enjoyed the last one and see a lot of potential in a sequel.
 
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