Not every company is obliged to do things in the exact same way. It seems to have worked for Microsoft so far, and it certainly works for me as an Xbox gamer.
Same. New dog, old tricks.
Gee, if only there was a comprehensive list of reasons to feel aggrieved towards Microsoft in the OP or something. Something that might give you a window into why people are becoming totally fed up with their business strategy in the console space. If only.
So because you don't like what 343i are doing it's bad for everyone? What would you have preferred them to do when bungie left just stop making halo?
They could have gotten 343i working on Halo without making them into a studio for which the only purpose is making Halo games. They will run 343i into the ground just like they were trying to run Bungie into the ground, I guarantee it.
Halo isn't even that big a seller any more. The Last of Us, a brand new IP, sold almost double Halo 4 (7+mill to 4+mill).
But buying off "exclusives" hasn't helped you as an Xbox gamer. It has hurt you. If MS didn't do stuff like the Tomb Raider deal, they could invest more in creating new games. You'd still get stuff like the new Tomb Raider PLUS new MS developed/funded games.Not every company is obliged to do things in the exact same way. It seems to have worked for Microsoft so far, and it certainly works for me as an Xbox gamer.
halo 4 sold 4 million ?
Gonna be lazy and copy my post from the other thread about this:
GTA V was rumored to have budget of 200 million if they made 2 GTA selling games for 400 million ( i dont think they could but thats another topic ) it would have made them more money than some stupid ad deal.
According to Wikipedia.
Microsoft pretty much cherry picks the third party market.
You don't see why some gamers would be upset with their same old tactics when it can't even be argued that them investing the same money into their own games would be a huge benefit to the industry as a whole including job creation?
Not to mention if they manage to create another Halo or Forza they would be set for a decade or longer rather than getting their small bump for six months.
it sold 3.1 million on its first day
there is no fucking way tlou sold more than halo 4
im guessing it sits at 8-9million now
Gamescom highlighted how desperate they are in terms of future software. Not only is there not enough coming, but there is no breadth or diversity in the titles.
I said it earlier, it's like MS is stuck in 2005 with their approach to exclusives. After Gamescom, Sony is starting to wipe the floor with them.
it sold 3.1 million on its first day
there is no fucking way tlou sold more than halo 4
im guessing it sits at 8-9million now
And... is that an issue. It's just another (legal) way to do business. I can smell the quantity of sodium in the OP.
You don't see why some gamers would be upset with their same old tactics when it can't even be argued that them investing the same money into their own games would be a huge benefit to the industry as a whole including job creation?
Not to mention if they manage to create another Halo or Forza they would be set for a decade or longer rather than getting their small bump for six months.
Okay, it sold 8-9 million. So it's not as bad a situation as I thought, but it's still not much more than TLOU, a brand new IP.
People with a vested interest in the video game medium beyond them simply being toys?Who the hell cares how games get there as long as they're great and bring something to the platform? This is the stuff of list wars not actual gaming. I don't care how Halo got to Xbox I just care that it's fun.
They could have gotten 343i working on Halo without making them into a studio for which the only purpose is making Halo games (and Halo TV shows, and special Halo apps, and Halo remakes, and Halo branded underpants, and Halo breakfast cereal). They will run 343i into the ground just like they were trying to run Bungie into the ground, I guarantee it.
Halo isn't even that big a seller any more. The Last of Us, a brand new IP, sold almost double Halo 4 (7+mill to 4+mill).
And... is that an issue. It's just another (legal) way to do business. I can smell the quantity of sodium in the OP.
NFL is a strong brand in the US. microsoft spending money to be associated with it isnt as wrong as some of yall think. This aint so much about console war stuff as people wanna think.
Black Mantis said:I couldn't care less how the games got on Xbox, fact is they're there and keep me entertained, that's all that matters.
Okay, it sold 8-9 million. So it's not as bad a situation as I thought, but it's still not much more than TLOU, a brand new IP.
They weren't trying to run Bungie into the ground, Bungie was under a ten year contract that ended with Reach. You're acting like Bungie was oppressed or something. Plus Halo 4 set a new record for the franchise. But no no ignore all that and continue. /sThey could have gotten 343i working on Halo without making them into a studio for which the only purpose is making Halo games (and Halo TV shows, and special Halo apps, and Halo remakes, and Halo branded underpants, and Halo breakfast cereal). They will run 343i into the ground just like they were trying to run Bungie into the ground, I guarantee it.
Halo isn't even that big a seller any more. The Last of Us, a brand new IP, sold almost double Halo 4 (7+mill to 4+mill).
It seems like marketing allocated dollars to me, in which case, it wouldn't have been allocated to their studios in the first place.
Them funding/paying for DR3, Titanfall, Ryse, Zoo Tycoon, Killer Instinct, Crimson Dragon, Sunset Overdrive, etc doesn't help with jobs?
Well okay, ignore the sales part. I still think that setting up a company to churn out Halo titles is incredibly short-sighted.8-9 million is standard sales for a halo title (except 3 which sits at over 10 million)
this doesnt say anything about halo, just that tlou is a fantastic new ip with deserved sales
I'm not denying that the point of 343i is to make Halo. That's exactly what I'm saying is the problem! If you don't like Halo, then all you see is MS investing millions specifically into something you don't like. If they gave them free reign to work on anything then people who aren't interested in Halo might have something to attract them to Xbox.This is dumb. The whole point of 343 is Halo, nothing else. The employees know that and if they get tired of it, they can move on. Halo 4 sold more than 4 million.
I know that this has been sanitised by the bleach of history but at the time the rumblings were that Bungie was very unhappy working under MS, wanted to do their own thing, and were fed up being the Halo mule. Rumours before Bungie broke off from MS said as much.They weren't trying to run Bungie into the ground, Bungie was under a ten year contract that ended with Reach. You're acting like Bungie was oppressed or something. Plus Halo 4 set a new record for the franchise. But no no ignore all that and continue. /s
Not every company is obliged to do things in the exact same way. It seems to have worked for Microsoft so far, and it certainly works for me as an Xbox gamer.
So you are mad now because ms buys games and developers?
I feel like Microsoft just got complacent last generation when they were stomping Sony through reasons that weren't first-party (i.e. better quality third party releases; better online; better price). They seemed to have a pretty good start to the generation.
Sony started off on the same footing (buying out Psygnosis for more than they were worth), but did slowly build up a roster over time and now has a fantastic network of studios. MS just seem to be taking longer to get there and were heading in the right direction before taking a few steps backwards last gen.
According to Wikipedia.
tLoU has sold 7 million on PS3 I believe. With the new remaster it's not out of the realm of possibility.
You must have some super hero like senses to be able to smell salt bro!
In all seriousness, your post depresses me .
tLoU has sold 7 million on PS3 I believe. With the new remaster it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Impeccable said:Did I say it didn't?
Who the hell cares how games get there as long as they're great and bring something to the platform? This is the stuff of list wars not actual gaming. I don't care how Halo got to Xbox I just care that it's fun.
Instead of this (which probably cost them $50M or better), Titanfall (which also likely cost them $50M or better) the stated NFL deal at $400M, and buying the Gears IP from Epic (likely a solid $50-$100M price tag) Microsoft could have funded over a half dozen of the biggest, most expensive AAA exclusives EVER. They gave the NFL more money for a fantasy football app than Take 2/Rockstar spent on Grand Theft Auto 5. Let that sink into your head when you excuse their lack of first party studios as "taking time".
People with a vested interest in the video game medium beyond them simply being toys?