flatearthpandas
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Not surprised. What a shitty policy. At least my LL purchase is still justified (as much as it can be)
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bad rumour killed, New 3DS is region locked.
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Well, what exactly is the problem there? I mean, everyone can decide which version he/she wants to get.
Yup and I agree... but it's all the legal in the other 2-5 points which are slow. Even on PS3, Persona 4 Arena was region locked.. probably for importing reasons.
Now I get what you mean. What you are describing with Persona 4 was related to contractual obligations between the Japanese and the American publishers. When you were saying "legal", I was thinking more about obligations derived from laws.
bodyboarder
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Next you'll be telling me they have set up a proper account based system.
Andrefpvs
Member
I will if you send me the money for it. Otherwise, I don't think so.
Anyone taking a financial risk wants that risk protected by contract.
Have a read at that link that I posted earlier about "Film Distribution Rights" or there are many more proper books on it.
The Feature Film Distribution Deal: A Critical Analysis of the Single Most Important Film Industry Agreemen
It's just not visible in games because contracts aren't public. Hollywood makes a big deal about it, heck even Flim Festivals like TIFF or Cannes is all about bargaining for distribution regions.
Not surprised at all, a baseless rumour that had no source other coming from one person from twitter.
I never believed it and I am surprised that it got spread around.
Mostly so Nintendo can ensure that US buy US copy, European buy European copy and Japanese buy Japanese copy.
There have been many petition but they all fail as they lose steam and Nintendo ignoring them.
I never believed it and I am surprised that it got spread around.
Mostly so Nintendo can ensure that US buy US copy, European buy European copy and Japanese buy Japanese copy.
There have been many petition but they all fail as they lose steam and Nintendo ignoring them.
reptilescorpio
Member
Expected but still, fuck you Nintendo >_<
If I buy a New 3DS it will be a US one, I can tell you that right now.
If I buy a New 3DS it will be a US one, I can tell you that right now.
TomcatTheLion
Member
As expected.
Just_myles
Member
Yeah, this is frustrating. I buy a Japanese nintendo console and I'm stuck with just imports. I buy domestic, i'm stuck with domestic. Shucks.
Nintendo and other distributors wanting full control of distribution.
So unless the defender is a corporate ball washer then there's no point.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Knew it was coming, I assume this will be the same for the 3DS's successor which I'm now seriously considering not buying before a region free exploit happens. Its a shame the Vita's library doesn't appeal to me very much because I would gladly reward Sony for not bothering with this stupid practice.
ThePlayerofGames
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Disappinting to say the least. I bought the 3ds begrudgingly. Haven't bought the Wii-U because of it. I want to support Nintendo but stuff like this makes it more and more difficult.
Infernal Monkey
Member
This is too good.
(NiNTENDOMiNATiON is the guy who made up the rumour in the first place).
Karsticles
Member
Something about tracking sales or activity better, I think?
The official line is to ensure ratings or classification system compliance. And localisation expenses.
The real reason is price control for maximising profit per region.
Arkam
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How long do you have? Its not an arbitrary choice devs/publishers/1st party make out of spite. It is usually a result of distribution rights in a given territory. Believe it or not different groups own different rights to distro on IPs in different region and thus each deal must be protected.
Now you might say why?
Fair question.
Example: I have a game i am making in Korea. I get a publisher to publish it in Asia and it never really catches on. As result I get a deal for US distro with a different publisher.
Would it be fair for the US publisher if players can simply pick up the Asian published copy for cheap online day of US release?
They're not profiting from not letting my girlfriend play Rune Factory 4 <.<
Watching them try to justify it with excuses that would also apply to their competitors who don't region lock is so pathetic
When NiNTENDOMiNATiON made a tweet with the word Rumour.
I doubt making a system region free is going to help them that much, if anything they lose more with the consumer reaping the benefit.
We're in the 21st century.
Is that revisionist history? Didn't region locking on handhelds only start with the 3DS?
I don't even understand how anyone can sit here and defend the region locking when the rest of the industry has moved on from it. In a digital world and a world where more self publishing is happening on the digital front, it doesn't make sense to have region locking anymore.
ElectricKaibutsu
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I came pretty close to giving in and buying one. Thanks Nintendo. You made the decision for me and saved me some money.
Started with the DSi, but yeah, not a long history just recent history.
No the DSi.
Sakura
Member
Well, for example, imagine it wasn't region locked.
Then every one in Europe who understands English could just import the American copy of SMTIV. When the game finally does release in Europe, sales are hurt, because many of the people who may have bought it, simply imported the American version months ago.
Or at least I think that is the logic.
The quote doesn't say handhelds, it says hardware, which Nintendo does have a long history of region locking.
Hours Left
Member
Sweet. :/
It's more about Nintendo showing that they're willing to make changes for the good of the consumer. Look at all the changes Microsoft has done with the XBO. They're doing everything they can to fix all the major issues people had with the console. Nintendo on the other hand is sticking with the status quo and hoping for the best.
It's crazy to think that Nintendo still think region locking is necessary. The entire industry has shifted away from region locking and Nintendo has regressed with region locking on it's handhelds, even the film industry has mostly moved away from region locking, the majority of blu-ray films are region free nowadays even though the format supports locking. Even with the consumer backlash they are sticking to their guns on this issue.
Nintendo seems to be so tone deaf in regards to engaging their consumer base and listening/responding to criticism, especially with the whole digital content ownership deal and policies related to online. Both Sony and Microsoft had made massive efforts to really listen to their fans and have made changes to provide us with the best experience. Nintendo have got to realize this isn't the 80s anymore, they can't be stuck in the past and have to be more flexible with their offerings if they want to stay competitive.
p.s. remember to sign this if you haven't already, it probably won't amount to anything but it is worth a try:
http://www.change.org/p/nintendo-stop-region-blocking-make-the-3ds-and-wii-u-region-free#share
Nintendo seems to be so tone deaf in regards to engaging their consumer base and listening/responding to criticism, especially with the whole digital content ownership deal and policies related to online. Both Sony and Microsoft had made massive efforts to really listen to their fans and have made changes to provide us with the best experience. Nintendo have got to realize this isn't the 80s anymore, they can't be stuck in the past and have to be more flexible with their offerings if they want to stay competitive.
p.s. remember to sign this if you haven't already, it probably won't amount to anything but it is worth a try:
http://www.change.org/p/nintendo-stop-region-blocking-make-the-3ds-and-wii-u-region-free#share
you know why
I find a region locking a nuisance and a bad idea for home consoles. However, how is it a bad idea (financially) for handhelds? The DSi sold 28 million while the 3DS sold 45 million and the region free PS vita sold 10 million. Is loss of consumer good will the only issue? Is Nintendo losing money by doing this?
PseudoViper
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yep, this exactly!
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