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[Minsc]

It means that after nigh on 20 years of using a keyboard to play X-Wing/TIE Fighter that switching over to a 360 pad isn't going to do me any favours. The vast majority of shortcuts to various throttle positions, next target, nearest enemy target and switching power management etc. are something that has been ingrained in my head for years and can not see how a joypad is going to do all of that on it's own fluently.

Gamepads can be configured to have multiple states for button presses, like the DS4 for example, you can configure the main 8 buttons to do like 200 different things depending on where on the touchpad you hold while pushing the button or any other modifier to overwrite the button's behavior.

I'm pretty sure you could map every single keyboard command to a controller, but obviously there'd be a learning curve in memorizing them and laying them out efficiently.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

GOG didn't screw up X-Wing, did they? Weird that they would omit the fan-favorite version of TIE Fighter, since doing the research is easy.

 

[Narpas Sword0]

I can't imagine playing this with a keyboard or a controller.

Are there any decent flight sticks available these days that aren't super expensive?

 

[bigwinnerx]

Sam and Max for $6 is a win for humanity.

The stick I had in the 90s was about as simple as it gets. Remember it was black with only a couple red buttons. Probably got it at a computer show.

Just ordered a refurb of the cheap logitech off Amazon, sure that'll work just fine.

 

[SteveWinwood]

GOG didn't screw up X-Wing, did they? Weird that they would omit the fan-favorite version of TIE Fighter, since doing the research is easy.

I think any omissions will be fixed fairly quickly. They're pretty good about that stuff.

I can't imagine playing this with a keyboard or a controller.

Are there any decent flight sticks available these days that aren't super expensive?

I picked up some logitech one at best buy for 20 bucks like 2 years ago that's pretty solid. It's certainly better than the one I had in the 90s.

 

[Jb]

I was a little shocked to see how well Tie works with DS4Windows without even as much as checking what the settings were.
Definitely going to have to read the manual though to make sure I have a good grasp of how the mechanics work, the training simulator isn't really a tutorial.

 

[MoGamesXNA]

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[Mengy]

bingo, I prefer the old original DOS versions for this very reason.

Me too. I own both X-Wing and Tie Fighter on 1.44' floppies, but I have them saved on a backup CD too because none of my PC's even have floppy drives anymore. But the interactive music added so much to both of these games, I couldn't play them without the IMUSE part of them. It would kill the atmosphere completely.

Great games though. Still two of the best space combat sims of all time IMHO, certainly in the top five along with Freespace.

 

[The Stig]

already got a couple of training patches. ready to go scan some cargo containers.

im so well trained, already hitting f9 to balance my cannons

 

[nny]

...and with Sam & Max I break my 100-game barrier on gog. yay!

 

[stump sock]

Dark Forces is on Steam:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/32400/

What we need is Outlaws...

I'd like to see someone fix DF2: Jedi Knight. That thing does not play well with modern computers. super crashy, video errors, etc.

 

[Persona7]

I'd like to see someone fix DF2: Jedi Knight. That thing does not play well with modern computers. super crashy, video errors, etc.

sounds like GOG has their work cut out for them

 

[ISee]

Could we please get a Tie-Fighter GOG.com OT?

 

[SteveWinwood]

sounds like GOG has their work cut out for them

They're really good at it though.

And publishers are usually really good at immediately stealing it and putting it on steam with no credit given.

 

[FlyinJ]

Sam and Max for $6 is a win for humanity.

The stick I had in the 90s was about as simple as it gets. Remember it was black with only a couple red buttons. Probably got it at a computer show.

Just ordered a refurb of the cheap logitech off Amazon, sure that'll work just fine.

This one:

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Decent stick, but after a few weeks using it the pots would wear out and it would constantly drift.

God damn I don't miss those days. EVERY joystick would eventually break and end up drifting.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

I'd like to see someone fix DF2: Jedi Knight. That thing does not play well with modern computers. super crashy, video errors, etc.

Yes please. This is a top priority for me, since A Black Falcon and other users have waxed lyrical on its advantages over the rest of the Katarn games. Best just to play it for myself!

 

[bigwinnerx]

This one:

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Decent stick, but after a few weeks using it the pots would wear out and it would constantly drift.

God damn I don't miss those days. EVERY joystick would eventually break and end up drifting.

Ha! Yes! Wow.....wave of nostalgia flowing over me. Nice one. I was like 16, best I could do. Can still feel the padding.

 

[Sephiroth503]

Has anyone tried out X-Wing/TIE with a DS4?

Because if they work I might not be buying any new game releases for a long time.

Actually still in shock I can play TIE Fighter again!

 

[FlyinJ]

Gamepads can be configured to have multiple states for button presses, like the DS4 for example, you can configure the main 8 buttons to do like 200 different things depending on where on the touchpad you hold while pushing the button or any other modifier to overwrite the button's behavior.

I'm pretty sure you could map every single keyboard command to a controller, but obviously there'd be a learning curve in memorizing them and laying them out efficiently.

Are you setting up a profile that does this? How are you going about it?

I want it if you make it!

 

[MedIC86]

Do Xwing and Tiefighter hold up? or do most people only like them because of the nostalgia thing?

 

[RAIDEN1]

Full throttle, one franchise that died too soon....that game was over too quickly...its biggest drawback...but awesome all the same...

Never played X-wing or Tie-Fighter, always have been a fan of Wing Commander, but I couldn't see myself investing in a joystick especially for this.

Also I assume this version of the game has CD quality sound? Not like what they did with Beneath a Steel Sky

 

[Beefwheat]

Just did the first combat simulator mission in my lowly TIE Fighter. Good gracious, that little red light still has the ability to make me tense up as I reflexively evade. Headhunters are dumb but a big team of them is still pretty stressful!

 

[Lanark]

Do Xwing and Tiefighter hold up? or do most people only like them because of the nostalgia thing?

I'm wondering this as well. Never played it at the time, so I'm wondering if it's still worth my time now.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Do Xwing and Tiefighter hold up? or do most people only like them because of the nostalgia thing?

Stump considers it the best game he's ever played, and that's on recent playthroughs. Like many mid-90s LucasArts licensed games, TIE Fighter expands on the experience of playing a small part in a grand conflict; there's a lot of mission variety, excellent base mechanics, and a script worthy of the relevant movies.

 

[Minsc]

Are you setting up a profile that does this? How are you going about it?

I want it if you make it!

I don't have experience making profiles, but I'm sure someone else will!

Has anyone tried out X-Wing/TIE with a DS4?

Because if they work I might not be buying any new game releases for a long time.

Actually still in shock I can play TIE Fighter again!

The '95 version of TIE works well with a DS4, that's what I used to test it briefly (the DOS version did accept it as a joystick as well, but configuring it will take more work). I've never played the Windows version though, only the DOS version, and that'd be my pick to replay it as well, though I am curious to experiment with the Windows version since it does seem to run a bit better atm, and it looks nicer too. Shame about the lack of imuse though.

When GOG gets their DOS version swapped in for the Collector's Edition I'll give it a more serious attempt, in the meantime, I'm more interested in trying the Windows version.

 

[_Ryo_]

So... how does it deal with the DRM in Monkey Island? If I remember correctly you needed a physical dial that had passcode in order to install the game?

 

[stump sock]

sounds like GOG has their work cut out for them

it's pretty brutal. it's one of the most broken games I've ever tried to get playable on my machines, and I never managed to get it fully working. it hates modern processors and video devices. it wants a 16bit CPU and anything above DX9 confuses it.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

Sam and Max Hit the Road finally getting a digital release is really nice news.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

So... how does it deal with the DRM in Monkey Island? If I remember correctly you needed a physical dial that had passcode in order to install the game?

I don't know jack-diddly about the Special Edition, but it probably bypasses the original copy protection entirely, allowing you to play with classic assets through a hot-swap.

it's pretty brutal. it's one of the most broken games I've ever tried to get playable on my machines, and I never managed to get it fully working. it hates modern processors and video devices. it wants a 16bit CPU and anything above DX9 confuses it.

lol, You're giving me this image of JK2 groping around and sneering like Gollum. It certainly seems difficult to get running on modern Windows, and that's no laughing matter.

 

[ISee]

Has anyone tried out X-Wing/TIE with a DS4?

Because if they work I might not be buying any new game releases for a long time.

Actually still in shock I can play TIE Fighter again!

Seems to work as long as the system thinks your DS4 is a 360 controller. I prefer the DS 4 Tool. Now I have to figuer out a nice Multi Button layout.

 

[Jazzkokehead]

it's pretty brutal. it's one of the most broken games I've ever tried to get playable on my machines, and I never managed to get it fully working. it hates modern processors and video devices. it wants a 16bit CPU and anything above DX9 confuses it.

Getting the original Jedi Knight to work properly on modern systems is difficult, but not impossible. I replayed it a little over a year ago and managed to get everything working after some effort. Still, a release that worked properly out of the box would be nice.

Yes please. This is a top priority for me, since A Black Falcon and other users have waxed lyrical on its advantages over the rest of the Katarn games. Best just to play it for myself!

I'd say Jedi Knight II is easily the best of the series - though Dark Forces II is by no means a bad game. It's much more of a traditional first-person shooter, whereas the increased focus on using the lightsaber and force powers in the sequel makes it play more like a third-person action game.

But really, the lightsaber combat in Jedi Knight II really has yet to be matched in any Star Wars game.

Also, it's about time Sam & Max saw a digital release. One of the best adventure games ever.

 

[The Stig]

just bought it. so good.

 

[Vuffster]

I was a little shocked to see how well Tie works with DS4Windows without even as much as checking what the settings were.
Definitely going to have to read the manual though to make sure I have a good grasp of how the mechanics work, the training simulator isn't really a tutorial.

The training simulator isn't a tutorial, but the combat chamber missions are.

 

[Stallion Free]

They're really good at it though.

And publishers are usually really good at immediately stealing it and putting it on steam with no credit given.

Man the irony is just too much.

 

[Sephiroth503]

I don't have experience making profiles, but I'm sure someone else will!



The '95 version of TIE works well with a DS4, that's what I used to test it briefly (the DOS version did accept it as a joystick as well, but configuring it will take more work). I've never played the Windows version though, only the DOS version, and that'd be my pick to replay it as well, though I am curious to experiment with the Windows version since it does seem to run a bit better atm, and it looks nicer too. Shame about the lack of imuse though.

When GOG gets their DOS version swapped in for the Collector's Edition I'll give it a more serious attempt, in the meantime, I'm more interested in trying the Windows version.

Cool, thanks!

 

[Ziffles]

I can't imagine playing this with a keyboard or a controller.

Is it mouse controllable?

 

[Dr Dogg]

Gamepads can be configured to have multiple states for button presses, like the DS4 for example, you can configure the main 8 buttons to do like 200 different things depending on where on the touchpad you hold while pushing the button or any other modifier to overwrite the button's behavior.

I'm pretty sure you could map every single keyboard command to a controller, but obviously there'd be a learning curve in memorizing them and laying them out efficiently.

Oh definitely I mean half the controls anyway were accessed with modifier keys like shift and alt but I'm firmly in the camp of 'If it isn't broke don't try and fix it'. Though you can pretty much change any command to a Direct Input button in the options (even using a 360 pad it registered just fine) from the brief playing about so you could map the important controls quiet easily even without using something like joy2key or the various DS4 solutions.

Though I think you had no choice but to use a joystick with the Win95 versions. I remember using some horrible SNES controller knock off with my PC at the time as it certainly didn't have the same feel let alone the precision of a mouse, even with lots of gunk clogged up around the ball.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Man the irony is just too much.

Well yeah but they still put in more work finding what the community did than the publisher ever did

 

[Jb]

The training simulator isn't a tutorial, but the combat chamber missions are.

Oh ok, good to know. I haven't dived into those yet.

 

[SegaShack]

Yoda Stories and Rebel Assault are what it's all about. Good thing I still have my disc copies.

 

[SteveWinwood]

when is droidworks coming

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

when is droidworks coming

When Night Shift gets released, of course.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

I hope we get Balance of Power, I sank unholy amounts of time into that.

 

[Jackpot]

I'm a little confused, the GOG pages say a joystick is mandatory to run the Win98 versions. Really no arrow key input?

Is there a comprehensive list of the differences between each of the versions?

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

I hope we get Balance of Power, I sank unholy amounts of time into that.

Chris Crawford's too busy hunting dragons. He should fight Trogdor.

 

[dhonk]

Yoda Stories and Rebel Assault are what it's all about. Good thing I still have my disc copies.

Haha oh man Yoda Stories! I have the disc somewhere too, any idea if it can install on Windows 7 or 8 easily? Would love to play it.

 

[mclem]

Could I potentially be comfy couching TIE FIGHTER?

My god...

I don't see how, the game uses a hell of a lot more buttons then the 360 pad has.

I have a nice beefy flight stick... I reckon I could probably map all the essentials to it.

 

[gooface]

so the consensus is to not buy this until they update the DOS versions to the collector's CD-Rom versions? I still have those CD's kicking around and I'd love to have a digital version of them.

 

[WillyFive]

Do Xwing and Tiefighter hold up? or do most people only like them because of the nostalgia thing?

They hold up extremely well, partly because the genre hasn't advanced much since they have been released, and because they are simply awesome games that really immerse you into the universe.

 

[MoGamesXNA]

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