DJ_Lae
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Damn, does she really? I remember dumping her pretty quick, maybe I missed that. I'll have to try her out again next time I play the game through.
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Hilariously underpowered RPG party members.
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Damn, does she really? I remember dumping her pretty quick, maybe I missed that. I'll have to try her out again next time I play the game through.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
Came here for this. They were so useless as their 'story Jobs'... could be made useful if you changed them (as anyone character could) but otherwise useless.
What, no Rafa and Malak?!
Also came to see if anyone said Kamahri from FFX but I actually thought Kimahri was great with his Stone Breath (Limits based on KO). Random battle killing machine. Everyone always seems to hate him though haha.
Suikoden has always had some useless temporary story characters, too, like that girl from school. Gremio always felt like a bit of an anchor. Hugo.. haha Hugo almost became a little fun like a 'project' a kid you wanted to see become not so useless.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Fuckin' Jeff
Jeff is a murderer with those Multi-Bottle Rockets
Fuckin' Jeff
Jeff is useful for spying and items. Towards the end, he's the boss killer.
If we want crappy party members, Flying Man kind of sucks when you get him.
What, no Rafa and Malak?!
Rafa actually does good damage though.
The point of Kimahri is that he's the only character where you get to choose which class you want him to be (on the standard sphere board anyway) so you could turn him into a tank or a powerful mage depending on what you feel like.
Before you can choose a route though, he's still a competent attacker and some of his Enemy Skills are super useful.
lwilliams3
Member
Not to mention that her "haste" spell is probably the most useful supportive move in the game, IMO.
Meg and Fiona from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.
Probably half of Micaiah's shitty friends could go here. And every FE game has a few characters who are markedly worse than the rest. But Meg and Fiona are among the most memorable because you almost have to deploy them as meat shields in some of the early chapters.
The worst part about Fiona is that she joins in chapters that are seriously unkind to mounted units. Swamps, clustered terrain... they didn't really think her through, heh.
Fuckin' Jeff
Jeff is amazing. Multi-bottle rockets trivialize the game, and if keep him upgraded with things like the Heavy Bazooka and Defense Spray, then he's a solid party member throughout the game
lwilliams3
Member
There is a item late in the game that allows Relm to be significantly more fun and useful.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Billy's gear is crazy powerful with the appropriate ether boosting setup.
Hours Left
Member
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So bad. Everybody is better than him
Uh, Regal's amazing. Most fun to play as too.
Fuckin' Jeff
Wait how is Jeff bad? Give him a ton of bottle rockets and he just starts wreaking face
Starts terrible, gets good briefly, ends terrible.
I was wondering when someone was going to try to make that claim. Kiwi falls off if you fail to upgrade him properly so he can absorb the higher levels of magical damage that would quickly punish him. It's hard but still doable. Once he has enough buffer HP he can go into waves dishing out huge critical hits.
Sarah, and the 4 choices are much worse than Kiwi by virtue of all of their counterparts are flat out better while Kiwi is a special. The birdmen class are the worst as an actual class.
Nikodemos
Member
IIRC there's a Gibberlings mod which changes his druid pack to Totemic, along with some stat tweaks.Cernd from baldur's gate 2:
I figured 'how bad could he be, werewolves are inherently cool'. But no. He is a huge piece of shit in EVERY way. Especially personality and storyline.
But yeah, he's rather bad. His only good point is high Wis, meaning a good amount of bonus spells per level.
Valygar is rather unimpressive as well.
Mazzy's good due to her crazy-high Short Bow skill. You need to buy points in Single Weapon Style in order to decrease her short-range weakness, though.
Seven Force
Banned
Nina in Breath of Fire III
She's really only good for attack magic and healing in a game where offensive magic is garbage and AP to cast said magic is a resource that can't be replenished quite as easy as in other RPGs. Combine that with the durability of a wet newspaper, and you have a thoroughly useless character. She can be made somewhat decent depending on what masters you put her under, but even then, the amount of work needed to build her into a half decent character could go into making Ryu, Momo or Peco absolutely godlike in comparison.
I still use her in my BoF3 parties because really, it's not a BoF game without Nina, but still.
I don't agree with Jeff at all. To this day, I still haven't gotten past the last few major bosses in EarthBound with Multi-Bottle Rockets on hand.
She's really only good for attack magic and healing in a game where offensive magic is garbage and AP to cast said magic is a resource that can't be replenished quite as easy as in other RPGs. Combine that with the durability of a wet newspaper, and you have a thoroughly useless character. She can be made somewhat decent depending on what masters you put her under, but even then, the amount of work needed to build her into a half decent character could go into making Ryu, Momo or Peco absolutely godlike in comparison.
I still use her in my BoF3 parties because really, it's not a BoF game without Nina, but still.
I don't agree with Jeff at all. To this day, I still haven't gotten past the last few major bosses in EarthBound with Multi-Bottle Rockets on hand.
Hours Left
Member
This topic has some strange opinions of what "underpowered" means.
Next thing I'll see someone post Peco from Breath of Fire III I bet.
Next thing I'll see someone post Peco from Breath of Fire III I bet.
EveChristine
Member
Easy to miss given most people (including me) would dump such a boring character straight away...the only reason I kept her was because I needed an all Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic Good party (so I had no complainers!) and then discovered she was rather useful.
On a subsequent playthrough I made MY character the Fighter with 5 x Bow proficiency....because I can't have an NPC being more awesome than my own character!
...but I digress.......
D_Generate87
Neo Member
Hey I was supposed to post that. This is pretty much why I have Jogurt as my profile, since he is such a joke character. Also, back in the day before the internetz, when secrets couldn't easily be revealed, I was convinced that Jogurt would eventually be able to get promoted and become super strong. So yea, wasted quite a lot of time and made battles much harder on myself
Hours Left
Member
In the GBA version of FFIV, Edward can be amazing at higher levels. He moves so quickly and literally rips through any undead enemies.
The main character was pretty useless too.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Nina in Breath of Fire III
She's really only good for attack magic and healing in a game where offensive magic is garbage and AP to cast said magic is a resource that can't be replenished quite as easy as in other RPGs. Combine that with the durability of a wet newspaper, and you have a thoroughly useless character. She can be made somewhat decent depending on what masters you put her under, but even then, the amount of work needed to build her into a half decent character could go into making Ryu, Momo or Peco absolutely godlike in comparison.
I still use her in my BoF3 parties because really, it's not a BoF game without Nina, but still.
It's been a while since I've played BoF3, but I remember that if you start by casting magic buffs to boost her up, her debuffs have good success rates and are really useful against bosses.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
What, no Rafa and Malak?!
Yup, their job title sound badass, but they are a wuss and a deadweight to party.
Eternal Sonata - Claves
Wow, she really sucks. You get her mid-game and she is really weak.
Wow, she really sucks. You get her mid-game and she is really weak.
Then she dies and you find out you can do an optional end-game dungeon to ressurrect her. It's not even worth it. The dungeon is kinda challenging and when you have completed it and get her back she is still a complete joke. No good damage or special attacks and you only have a few hours until you face the final boss. I can't be the only one dissappointed in her, right?
Dice//
Banned
Eternal Sonata - Claves
Wow, she really sucks. You get her mid-game and she is really weak.Then she dies and you find out you can do an optional end-game dungeon to ressurrect her. It's not even worth it. The dungeon is kinda challenging and when you have completed it and get her back she is still a complete joke. No good damage or special attacks and you only have a few hours until you face the final boss. I can't be the only one dissappointed in her, right?
BUT BUT BUTTTTT~!!!! It takes her 8 minutes to die even after the finishing blow. Clearly unearthed potential there.....and wasted.
It should also be up for a freaking award for most unintentionally funny scene.
http://youtu.be/D9oStLgZDH8
vasametropolis
Member
Go for the eyes, go for the eyes Boo.
hahaha Boo was awesome
Ah, right. Kimahri was his name. I suspect you are both right and that it was due to me getting bored of using him or taking him down a path I didn't utilize well that he felt so weak. For me, he ended up being virtually useless compared to everyone else. Maybe I should replay the game someday and see if I can make him really great for my playthrough
Someone already said Claves and Beat, but Polka is somehow more useless once you get to the end, and she is pretty much the main character.
> She gets outclassed in healing in the mid-half of the game (Viola and Frederic)
> Her damage output is beyond pathetic
> One of the worst characters to build echoes with
> She drives me insane, as do most of the cast, just her and Claves in particular. Completely unlikeable in any fashion.
You can win with any party in this game for sure, but Polka is just, I can't.
> She gets outclassed in healing in the mid-half of the game (Viola and Frederic)
> Her damage output is beyond pathetic
> One of the worst characters to build echoes with
> She drives me insane, as do most of the cast, just her and Claves in particular. Completely unlikeable in any fashion.
You can win with any party in this game for sure, but Polka is just, I can't.
Don't disagree with you on her performance in battle. However I did feel sorry for her character and her story was really tragic. But at least you did not have to do an optional dungeon to get her.
uncledonnie
Banned
See how many remember this one.
Amy was awesome and always in my final party. Does not compute.
leatherhat
Member
Surely I'm misunderstanding you and you aren't saying Karna and Tywin are bad? Karna is flat out the best character in the game and Tywin learns a much better spell roster than Kazin as a WIZ.
DealWithIt
Member
Poor guy was so useless.
While we are at it:
Hahn Mahlay from the Genesis masterpiece Phantasy Star 4
Relm has the highest base magic attack power of any character in FF6. While anyone can build it up with the use of the right Magicite, normally Relm will be doing the most magic damage out of anyone in the party. In a game that is all about using overpowered magic attacks to lay waste to your enemies, this is a pretty good advantage.
She more belongs in an "Hilariously bugged RPG party members" thread though. The Sketch Bug is a thing of legend which still haunts my nightmares.
Back on topic, Thomas from Suikoden 3. For one of the main characters of the game, he is pretty terrible in a fight. Which makes sense considering that he is a 12-year old boy with no combat experience. Surviving his chapters really comes down to recruiting some useful party members to carry him and some of his less-than-useful mandatory recruits.
Fuckin' Jeff
Multi-Bottle Rockets wants a word with ya.
and done. Character only does 1 hp damage no matter what.
DealWithIt
Member
Can't miss this one:
Here's a really obscure one:
Here's a really obscure one:
super-famicom
Member
This is true.
Magikarp is awesome. I leveled one up to 100, just because.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Shhiiiiiiiittttt, old boy was a tank, he was consistently the last dude standing if my party got wiped, with the right upgrade I would argue he is overpowered.
