CyanideFuse
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I would never dare run two cards unless I can somehow connect my PC to an exercise bike and peddle the bloody power into my machine.
Electric bills are not good in the UK.
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Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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GHG
Gold Member
Seriously...?
It's a 172 watt difference in power consumption...
Even if you had the PC running at full load 24/7 for every single day of the year it would cost you an extra 220 quid. I doubt you'd even be doing that for a quarter of all hours throughout the year.
Smushroomed
Banned
First time sli user here and my 970s power my rog swift pretty welll. Don't go sli if all you do is 1080p
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Downsamplng and more stable frames in demanding games. 1080p is fine if you want to push IQ.
Thinking about either buying my friends 980 depending on his price. Or just 2 970's
CyanideFuse
Member
It was a sort of joke.
Anyway moot point as my motherboard cannot do SLI and I am not upgrading that any time soon.
I am a fucking cheapskate and will do as much as I can to not get ****** in the *** by the energy companies.
Anyway moot point as my motherboard cannot do SLI and I am not upgrading that any time soon.
I am a fucking cheapskate and will do as much as I can to not get ****** in the *** by the energy companies.
iN1njaCPFC
Member
I'll say what I'm wanting... I need steady 60fps on pretty much ALL games, at 1080p (for now) The reason I say 60 is becuase I can't afford a monitor so I'm using the TV. When I can afford a monitor, it will be either 4K or 1440p..hopefully by then I can afford a decent 4K one.
I heard an OC 970 is equal to if not better than a Stock 980, so wouldn't SLI 970s prepare me for both eventualities? I've checked Benches and a stock 970 can surpass 60fps on most if not all games solo anyway.
Cheers guys.
iN1njaCPFC
Member
The specs of the PC I want to build:
i7-5820K 3.3Ghz 6 Core (Wanting to OC as well if possible)
GTX970 SLI or GTX980
16Gb Crucial 2133 DDR4
120Gb SSD Primary HD
2Tb HDD Secondary HD
i7-5820K 3.3Ghz 6 Core (Wanting to OC as well if possible)
GTX970 SLI or GTX980
16Gb Crucial 2133 DDR4
120Gb SSD Primary HD
2Tb HDD Secondary HD
The Omega Man
Member
Godd morning GAF, the time has come for me to pull the trigger and buy me a nice 970, so I am about to add any of these cards and click order right now!, any final recommendation or warning for any of these cards? (Don't get scared of the prices I am in Canada)
I am leaning towards the first EVGA on the list, so if there isn't any objections I'll order it in like 30 minutes.
I am leaning towards the first EVGA on the list, so if there isn't any objections I'll order it in like 30 minutes.
TC McQueen
Member
The EVGA FTW is a good card and competitively priced with the other good options on that list, so go for it.
Make sure the games you want to play have sli profiles of you go SLI. Also, I would get a 256gb primary ssd if you have programs like creative suite, or AutoCAD.
SliChillax
Member
Seriously...?
It's a 172 watt difference in power consumption...
Even if you had the PC running at full load 24/7 for every single day of the year it would cost you an extra 220 quid. I doubt you'd even be doing that for a quarter of all hours throughout the year.
Crazy how technology advances. That reminds me I can put 3 970's in my PC without changing my PSU from 3 years ago lol.
Boss Man
Member
I'd recommend the MSI 4G.
I went through three EVGA FTW cards with annoying coil buzz. Now using an MSI Gold that is superior in every way. The only difference between Gold and 4G is probably temperature, and the Gold runs almost unecessarily cool.
sleepydeer
Member
Got a Zotac 970 (ZT-90101-10P) yesterday and I think it has to go back. It has what I guess is coil whine (pitch varies instantly with framerate) at anything over 100 FPS and it's loud enough for me to hear through headphones. On top of that the fans are too noisy for running in the living room, even though they only ever hit 60% speed.
Same model replacement won't be any quieter fan-wise I guess, even if it doesn't whine. Is a pricier model going to have much lower fan noise? If not I guess I'll have to settle for a lower-end card.
Same model replacement won't be any quieter fan-wise I guess, even if it doesn't whine. Is a pricier model going to have much lower fan noise? If not I guess I'll have to settle for a lower-end card.
CaptainGyro
Banned
yeah I remember a few years ago I was worrying that if I was going to get the 580( which I never ended up getting), then my power supply was cutting it close. But now the 970 kicks the shit out of the 580 yet my same psu is easily more than enough
The Omega Man
Member
I just pulled the trigger on the MSI 4G, reviews are very good, and haven't heard about coil whine on these, try to change to different brand if you can
I bought two of the zotac amp omega 970s.... no coil whine at all luckily.
Gaffercake
Member
What PSU would be recommended for a 970?
sleepydeer
Member
I guess I'll give one more 970 model a shot. Is there one with particularly quiet fans? I was using a Radeon 6850 before which was fine, the TDP isn't that different so I didn't imagine the fan noise would change much.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Wow @ all the sli hate. A single card is fine if you're comfortable with high'ish settings and 60'ish fps at 1080p, but if you're like me and want a solid 60+, on ultra, and preferably downnsampled, then it's no question. Also, I've had three different sli systems over the years and I've had very few problems with only a handful of games.
my Asus strix is dead silent on DAI on ultra. On games like league of legends or idle on desktop the fans don't even turn.
Parhelion69
Member
I've got a MSI 4G, and I can't hear the thing. Its fans are silent, and my case and CPU fans do more noise than it. I can't hear the card, really! (When I had the XFX 7950, it sounded like it was gonna take off! XD ). No coil whine either and it stays cool. Great card.
Quality 600w.
UnrealEck
Member
The gigabyte GTX 970 mini ITX cards are on sale now.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-gigabyte-gtx-970-oc-itx-28nm-pcie-30-%28x16%29-7000mhz-gddr5-gpu-1076mhz-boost-1216mhz-cores-1664-dp
Tempting...
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-gigabyte-gtx-970-oc-itx-28nm-pcie-30-%28x16%29-7000mhz-gddr5-gpu-1076mhz-boost-1216mhz-cores-1664-dp
Tempting...
500w is enough. Hell the GALAX one recommends a 450w psu. 600w is overkill for a card like this.
It works for both 970s and 980s. In fact, the guy who made the guide is using a 970. You're right though in that you shouldn't just copy and paste his numbers in. You have to find your own overclock first using kboost and then put in your voltage and clocks.
Naked Snake
Member
Would my Seasonic Gold 750w be cutting it too close for 970 sli?
No, 750 is more than enough for SLI. I run on Seasonic x 750. Might even be able to tri SLI on 750 and 970.
Yeah if those power draw charts are accurate anything over 600 should give you plenty of wiggle room for your setup
Naked Snake
Member
Hmm, that's good to hear. I just read that under full load these cards can draw close to 300w, so two of them would be 600...
I think the chart above is for average TDP, not maximum.
Full system draw of a GTX 970 paired with a 4960X at 4.2GHz is about 300W, adding a second card does not double it and I am guessing you are running on Haswell/Ivy/Sandy consumer socket so it will be even less. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/the-geforce-gtx-970-review-feat-evga/15
Dreams-Visions
Member
is the EVA precisionX software worth using? Or should I just install Afterburner?
Naked Snake
Member
Afterburner is more popular I think, but Precision X is perfectly fine too, and some people prefer it. I think it also has the unique "K-Boost" feature, which can come in handy in certain situations/troubleshooting.
FreddieQuell
Member
Caayn
Member
Welp I just bought a GTX 980 from EVGA the SC ACX2.0 edition.
First thoughts after coming from a CF R9 290X? Wow, this thing is quiet under full load O_O I can barely hear it.
Directly pumped the GPU and mem clock with 100Mhz each resulting in 1366/1467Mhz for the GPU and 1803Mhz for the mem. Altered the fan profile a bit and it stays perfectly cool with the temps hanging in the lower 70s under load, while staying almost dead silent.
GTX 980 OC'ed vs a stock R9 290X
GTX 980 OC'ed vs stock CF R9 290X
It holds up really well compared to my previous set-up. Despite me losing perfomance I'm happy with the purchase. Will see later on if I can get the clocks a bit higher.
awesome customer support by EVGA they responded within 30 minutes to question!
Directly pumped the GPU and mem clock with 100Mhz each resulting in 1366/1467Mhz for the GPU and 1803Mhz for the mem. Altered the fan profile a bit and it stays perfectly cool with the temps hanging in the lower 70s under load, while staying almost dead silent.
GTX 980 OC'ed vs a stock R9 290X
GTX 980 OC'ed vs stock CF R9 290X
It holds up really well compared to my previous set-up. Despite me losing perfomance I'm happy with the purchase. Will see later on if I can get the clocks a bit higher.
So I can't connect a second monitor to my Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970. The first monitor connected via DP stays black, no signal. The second monitor connected through DVI-D works fine. It works when 2 monitors are connected via 2 DVI ports. But my ROG only has one DP connection. Is that a software issue or should I return my card?
opticalmace
Member
Does DP work fine when you just have one monitor hooked up?
Yes, it works without any problems.
opticalmace
Member
There are multiple DP ports, right? Try using a different one. Might have to use one specific DP port when you use dual monitors for whatever reason.
It worked, thanks.
One of the DP ports didn't work at all, both monitors had no signal.It worked, thanks.
I have a 980 with three DP ports on it, and one of them doesn't work
At least two of them work though, so I'm not going to bother returning it. Zero coil whine on this card
| Praxis |
Banned
Ever since I got the MSI 970 I have noticed a lot of screen tearing when watching videos through any media player, even with vsync enabled in the Nvidia settings.
The pc (windows 7) is connected to a monitor and a Panasonic ST50 via HDMI, the refresh rate settings are all fine (both in Windows and Nvidia cp) I also have the desktop cloned instead of extended for convenience when I want to play a game, but this brings up another issue since upgrading.
If I have my desktop displayed on the TV and then launch a game the picture messes up and starts flickering, this is fixed by changing the channel on the TV or avoided completely by simply not switching to the PC input on the plasma until the game has already launched. I never had either of these issues with my old 580.
The pc (windows 7) is connected to a monitor and a Panasonic ST50 via HDMI, the refresh rate settings are all fine (both in Windows and Nvidia cp) I also have the desktop cloned instead of extended for convenience when I want to play a game, but this brings up another issue since upgrading.
If I have my desktop displayed on the TV and then launch a game the picture messes up and starts flickering, this is fixed by changing the channel on the TV or avoided completely by simply not switching to the PC input on the plasma until the game has already launched. I never had either of these issues with my old 580.
Is the refresh rate set to 59 or 60hz? Does it also happen when you extend the displays? Cloning can cause all kinds of issues (tearing, stuttering, and so on) because it's using only one set of refresh rates, timings, etc., that might not be entirely compatible with one of the displays or both. In addition, cloning displays will lead to crashes in games when DSR is enabled in the control panel. You might find that's a pretty compelling reason to avoid it altogether if you planned on downsampling your games with your new 970.
I agree cloning is convenient, but in my opinion it currently just isn't worth it. It would be nice to have an option that's native to Windows that allows cloning the desktop on extended displays. Third party apps already do it, so it's definitely possible. In any case, good luck!
Windom Earle
Member
Agreed, 1080p screens are fine for SLI. Especially if you want to run demanding games at 120/144hz.
That being said, I sold my second 970 and don't miss it much.
Try not using Cloning and see if that helps
TC McQueen
Member
Is EVGA having production problems with its 970s and ACX backplates? Aside from the FTW Reference (whatever the hell that is), the 970 ACX 2.0, and the 970 SC ACX 2.0, all of their SKUs are $400+ and the backplates are $50. I know demand is crazy high for these cards, but it seems like a bit much (although I imagine all those SKUs are part of the problem).