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Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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TC McQueen
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It protects the components on the back of the PCB and helps cool the VRAM a bit. It's really useful for smaller builds where you can't get a lot of clearance between the GPU and a third party CPU cooler.
Piercedveil
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I'm really impressed with the G1 970 so far. Absolutely no coil whine and it's much more quiet than my EVGA 760 with the ACX cooler. Even on Just Cause 2's menu screens where FPS was uncapped and framerates were in the 400s, no coil whine at all.
Can finally play my modded Skyrim with ENB a constant 60+ FPS
JC2 also ran at a constant 85+ FPS which felt amazing to play.
Can finally play my modded Skyrim with ENB a constant 60+ FPS
JC2 also ran at a constant 85+ FPS which felt amazing to play.Next year I'm definitely going to get a 960 when it comes out.
Normally I don't preorder games but I notice now and then that there are supply issues for gpus. Is it prudent to preorder a mid range chip like the 960?
If you believe so what are the best brands? I'm not looking to overclock it but it is useful to buy a GPU where a company provides great tweaking tools to deal with unforseen software performance issues. To my understanding MSI is one of the best. I think Asus is right up there but I'm not sure.
Normally I don't preorder games but I notice now and then that there are supply issues for gpus. Is it prudent to preorder a mid range chip like the 960?
If you believe so what are the best brands? I'm not looking to overclock it but it is useful to buy a GPU where a company provides great tweaking tools to deal with unforseen software performance issues. To my understanding MSI is one of the best. I think Asus is right up there but I'm not sure.
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Is the refresh rate set to 59 or 60hz? Does it also happen when you extend the displays? Cloning can cause all kinds of issues (tearing, stuttering, and so on) because it's using only one set of refresh rates, timings, etc., that might not be entirely compatible with one of the displays or both. In addition, cloning displays will lead to crashes in games when DSR is enabled in the control panel. You might find that's a pretty compelling reason to avoid it altogether if you planned on downsampling your games with your new 970.
I agree cloning is convenient, but in my opinion it currently just isn't worth it. It would be nice to have an option that's native to Windows that allows cloning the desktop on extended displays. Third party apps already do it, so it's definitely possible. In any case, good luck!
Thanks, I will do some experimenting when I get a chance, but cloning was fine with the 580 but I guess it's just one of those things. If it works fine in extended mode for video and making the plasma the primary when gaming then i will have to put up with the inconvenience.
opticalmace
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Just wait for them to come out. Shouldn't be too much longer... some rumours say they'll be unveiled next month.
so should I be overclocking my strix for sure? I know how to do cpu's, but not so much with gpu's.
I have the Asus Strix 970, which comes with a program called gpu tweak to make the changes. For some reason it crashes and or when I minimize it to the hidden icons trey, I can't get it to re open.
any advice?
I have the Asus Strix 970, which comes with a program called gpu tweak to make the changes. For some reason it crashes and or when I minimize it to the hidden icons trey, I can't get it to re open.
any advice?
AbundantChoice
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Yess... got my work to agree to buy home PC for me, as long as it was a Dell, I could order whatever I wanted. So i got the new Alienware Area 51 desktop with a top-of-the-line haswell processor, 16 gigs of RAM... and a GTX 980!
So, given i'm upgrading from a 650Ti, what should be my first go-to game to check out the graphical upgrade? Witcher 2 with crazy supersampling? The re-release of Metro: Last Light? What's the current "yeah, this is the game you want to use to put a new card through it's paces" game?
So, given i'm upgrading from a 650Ti, what should be my first go-to game to check out the graphical upgrade? Witcher 2 with crazy supersampling? The re-release of Metro: Last Light? What's the current "yeah, this is the game you want to use to put a new card through it's paces" game?
InvaderZimmer
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You can use msi afterburner instead. I could never get gpu tweak to work.
Corpsepyre
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Definitely Crysis 3 and Metro Last Light.
OK so I'm going off an overclock from this site: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/asus-gtx970-strix-oc-review/21/
Am I running a different version of afterburner or something? Just don't want to mess up my new gpu. Mine is the blue one on the right, with different things to choose.
Do I need to be changing power limit?
turtlesbonanza
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OK so I'm going off an overclock from this site: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/asus-gtx970-strix-oc-review/21/
Am I running a different version of afterburner or something? Just don't want to mess up my new gpu. Mine is the blue one on the right, with different things to choose.
Do I need to be changing power limit?
Same version but looks to be an older/different skin. Change your skin in the settings menu to the default one.
Soyongdori
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X51 user here, exactly which version of 970 should I buy? I went to amazon and searched for the card and there were 7 different cards.
TC McQueen
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You might be better off buying one from Best Buy, since they have ones with the reference cooler that should be better suited for that case. They're going to be $380 though, unless you get them to price match a cheaper reference style cooler 970.
Soyongdori
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Are you talking about this one?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-...lack/9855169.p?id=1219441201895&skuId=9855169
They also carry multiple versions of same card.
Or does Dell sell a better GTX970 that is more suitable for X51?
TC McQueen
Member
That's it.
Maybe, but I would ask them about it before you buy an X51 with a 970 installed.
Dragon Age is probably not a great indicator cause I've had that crash on me and throw graphics/direct x errors at stock and at overclock several times. Just bugs.
From all the rumours, it seems the GTX 960 is... not going to be all that enticing.
128 bit memory bus width, 2 GB ram (some sources speculate 3), $250 - 300 price point.
Performance comparable to GTX 770. Which I can already get right now for around $230...
Let's see if the rumours bear out. Because I'm disappointed.
128 bit memory bus width, 2 GB ram (some sources speculate 3), $250 - 300 price point.
Performance comparable to GTX 770. Which I can already get right now for around $230...
Let's see if the rumours bear out. Because I'm disappointed.
Soyongdori
Member
Did a bit of research and apparently, this is what Dell has for the 970.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133564
It's 60 bucks cheaper compared to the BB one, but in the review section, there are complaints about loud coil wine noise.
If it really does have those specs, I think it would be crazy for it to be over $230. There's too many rumors at the moment to know what to expect though, aside from performance to at least match the 770.
TheContact
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I'm really impressed with the G1 970 so far. Absolutely no coil whine and it's much more quiet than my EVGA 760 with the ACX cooler. Even on Just Cause 2's menu screens where FPS was uncapped and framerates were in the 400s, no coil whine at all.
Can finally play my modded Skyrim with ENB a constant 60+ FPS
Weird my 760 is nearly whisper quiet. Think something might be wrong because of how quiet it is. Fan speed is running normal and temps are good tho
GearDraxon
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I went from a EVGA 770 SC 2GB to a 970. It's currently out for the step-up to a 980...so my 770 is back in, until it arrives. I'll report back on how Dragon Age changes...any other games you'd like me to try?
Piercedveil
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Yeah, I don't even mean to say my 760 was loud or anything. It was really quiet, which is why I'm surprised my new card is even more quiet.
Why did you decide to go up? I've a 770 and am thinking about the 970.
GearDraxon
Member
Honestly? Xmas present to myself. I know the price/performance ratio isn't as good, but I'm already hooked on using DSR to make 1080p look great, and I can't run SLI on my current MB/PSU.
The 970 was a pretty decent jump from the 770, in my experience. Dragon Age (for an example) ran smoother with minor DSR and higher graphics settings than the 770 does at regular 1080p.
CyanideFuse
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Does it make much of a difference to stability if memory has been overclocked too or is memory overclocking and stability unrelated to heat?
I had a MSI GTX 770 TF, and upgraded to a MSI 980 TF. This was my first GPU upgrade. To me the difference was huge. My first goal was 1080p, @60fps, with some AA and stable (never dipping more than 10fps). In order to do that across the board the 770 had to have many games (SOM, WD, pCARS, Crysis 3, TW2, etc) set to a mix of medium to high settings. The 980 takes just about everything to ultra (as long as the AA is kept in check).
Now that I have an Oculus Rift DK2, I definitely appreciate the extra horsepower. I know the 770 would struggle (given the 980 even struggles in certain situations).
It also uses a lot less power, overclocks better and makes far less noise.
If you have $600+ get the 980 (Gigabyte Windforce or EVGA Classified). If money is a factor, the 970 is a terrific option and should perform well. I think given the relatively small cost difference from a 770 to 970 an upgrade makes sense.
TC McQueen
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I'm not sure, but there's probably some benefit to overclocking the memory along with the card itself, since almost every site I've seen reviewing 970s/980s overclocks memory along with the card itself.
As for heat affecting stability of memory overclocks, I'm not really sure if that's how it works, but I do know that thermal images of 970s tend to show the VRAM glowing because it's really hot, so anything that can help cool the VRAM is good in my book.
Chittagong
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How far away are we from 10-12 TF card at the size/heat budget of the 7870? I have decided to go back to PC when I can see a generational leap, 4-5x. I'm starting to get the PC itch. The amount of joy I got from Steam sales, goddam.
*) I know TF is a poor metric but it's the only one a console peasant like me knows
*) I know TF is a poor metric but it's the only one a console peasant like me knows
Chittagong
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Cool. I think PS4 will have an awesome 2.5 years ahead of it, so mid 2017 would be the perfect point to go back to PC. That would be exactly 5 years from my PS3 -> 7870 transition.
The perfect point is now since you will enjoy most of these PS4 games in a much better conidition, first and foremost when it comes to framerate.
PetriP-TNT
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Wow I am a dumbass. It seems that my CS:GO input lag issues were related to my mouse loosing connection, not frame hitching. Frame hitching is still there but at least I can aim now.
It seems Maxwell cards have done Nvidia good :
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/41838/nvidia-increasing-video-card-market-share-gap-over-amd/index.html
Absolutely deserved, the 970 is an incredible GPU.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/41838/nvidia-increasing-video-card-market-share-gap-over-amd/index.html
Absolutely deserved, the 970 is an incredible GPU.
Unknown Soldier
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It absolutely is, $300 for this amount of power is probably the best video card value in a decade, you can get within a few % of a stock 980 for over $200 less. It's so good that Nvidia is like WTF do we do now about the 960 lol.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Secretly hoping 960 comes with 3GB. Not that I'm personally buying it but a 770 equivalent chip with 3GB vram for a solid price could be a real good deal. If it's 770 equivalent, with 2gb, for more than a 770, then it will be worthless.
With the 970 around a 960 will be worthless anyway. Unless they sell the thing for less than 200$.
BrokenSymmetry
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Exactly the model I was looking at (if this is the single-GPU model). Any impressions so far?
For those considering to go SLI this Christmas, here's a list of things that currently don't work with an SLI setup:
- MFAA
- DSR when using a GSYNC monitor.
You can add a few games as well.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
But hey, on the other hand, the 960m might be a cool upgrade over 860m and a second iteration of the Alienware Alpha could be pretty awesome as a result
CMojicaAce
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Just built my first PC yesterday using an MSI 970. So far I haven't heard any coil whine so that's good. I've only played FC4 and BF3 so far but they both run at a constant 60fps at 1080p on ultra!
lordfuzzybutt
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If anyone wants to see if your card has coil whine: install The Witcher 2 if you have it, turn off V-Sync, and stay on the main menu. That produces the most audible coil while for me.