Makoto Yuki
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All I'm saying is we really can't say for certain P5 will be a better game than FFXV without playing either of them. If all you are saying is P5 LOOKS better based on trailers I can understand that.
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Persona 5 New Trailer
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All I'm saying is we really can't say for certain P5 will be a better game than FFXV without playing either of them. If all you are saying is P5 LOOKS better based on trailers I can understand that.
I too enjoy beating Mara in furious combat.
It is all very weird. I'd like to think a simpler explanation would be them returning to their SMT roots a bit, especially with the characters all running around with guns as well.
Famitsu is still a week away right? Will be fun to see what clues and answers we get to some of this.
Rawr Its Ry
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Are there any other trailer breakdowns similar to the ones that Gametrailers and IGN did? I cannot get enough of this fucking thing.
I'm pretty comfortable saying it'll more than likely be better right now. It certainly looks the part. SE hasn't shown me they can design a good single player console RPG in ages. Not one I can remember off the top of my head, anyway.
super-famicom
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When you naturalize in Japan, as of 1983 you can choose not to take a Japanese family name.
GameXplain had one thrown together too, but it wasn't nearly as good. They were putting out false info (claimed that this game was running on Gamebyro as an example).
Well, neither has Atlus!
That part is definitely the most ambiguous and they place enough material in the trailer to lend credence to both.
The Yellow eyes, the mask imagery composed of blood, and the contorted facial features certainly hone in on demonic/shadow origins.
During the gameplay, we see the MC with a normal mask on, but with every step he takes in a run, landing after a jump, and moving from cover to cover we see splashes of blood streak out from under his feet.
So perhaps this transformation sequence is his first one, and he looks particularly wild/wicked because he is reveling in his new power and enjoys it. It could be his Persona taking on his own human form to demonstrate how he is truly him as well, and the blood mask is the occult version of a normal mask.
The blood is key in all of this. The game's visual theme is red. I'd bet on it.
Perhaps it is none of that and something else all together. It'll be fun to find out.
You're probably on to something with that.
I didn't even notice the blood splatters
You know, it could actually be both. The protag is chained up in the Velvet Room at some point in the trailer, right? He could be there because the shadow took over his real body, effectively trading places with the MC in his subconscious.
super-famicom
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You should probably remove the link to their video, then.
I really dislike the credibility of the content in nearly all their videos.
ZombiePlatypus
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What are you getting at? Did they hire a freelance ghost developer to make tgethe Persona and megaten games?
Japanmanx3
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LololololSkating in the streets is dangerous, bro.
Shouta
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Katakana doesn't really mean anything. There are a lot of grannies in Japan that use Katakana for obviously Japanese names, for example, lol. There's a historical reason but just going by the fact it's written in hiragana/kanji vs katakana isn't a good indication of origin.
杏 can definitely be "An" though as it's used in the name "Anna" 杏奈 or　杏南
I'm saying they last made a console RPG 7 years ago.
Skating in the streets is dangerous, bro.
Fantastic.
It's been removed, I just like being comprehensive with my sources.
Chrono Helix
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Yeah I was wondering about that too. Did he start the game off as a great thief already? If not, did he start off as a newbie? How did he get involved in this? What makes him so special that he gets made the leader?
super-famicom
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More awesome stuff I found on tumblr:
Rogue_Ledr
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OK I hate to sound like a troll here, but I gotta ask:
Can we expect a major graphics bump for the PS4 version?
The gameplay graphics in that trailer look straight outta PS3, which is a HELL of a let down.
I was expecting AT LEAST a noticable bump in graphics for the PS4 version.
I assume this footage is PS3 and maybe we haven't seen the PS4 version yet. Would that be correct?
Can we expect a major graphics bump for the PS4 version?
The gameplay graphics in that trailer look straight outta PS3, which is a HELL of a let down.
I was expecting AT LEAST a noticable bump in graphics for the PS4 version.
I assume this footage is PS3 and maybe we haven't seen the PS4 version yet. Would that be correct?
ZombiePlatypus
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Ah, I forgot it's been that long.
Pinko Marx
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So does anyone think that the dungeons of this game are going to take place in the "real world"?
P3 & 4 both have a seperate shadow world that the team goes into to take down their objectives. But with the heists in P5, the first few scenes of the trailer showing a place where real people inhabit it, and what seems like call backs to earlier Persona games, it seems like they're hinting at there being no separate realm this time around.
P3 & 4 both have a seperate shadow world that the team goes into to take down their objectives. But with the heists in P5, the first few scenes of the trailer showing a place where real people inhabit it, and what seems like call backs to earlier Persona games, it seems like they're hinting at there being no separate realm this time around.
threelights
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Yeah. I think there's a simple answer, but I don't know if it is "returning to the roots"...I too enjoy beating Mara in furious combat.
It is all very weird. I'd like to think a simpler explanation would be them returning to their SMT roots a bit, especially with the characters all running around with guns as well.
Famitsu is still a week away right? Will be fun to see what clues and answers we get to some of this.
hmm...
Yeah, I'd like that too.
I remember in the FFXV TGS thread we were kinda doing that in the thread itself. I thought it would happen here too, but apparently discussing how much people dislike SE is more important...
Also, a few hours ago someone posted this on Twitter (not sure if it was already posted here):
=P
I wouldn't expect anything substantial aside from a resolution, lighting and texture bump.
There's definitely a separate realm. Look at the end of the second teaser trailer for Persona 5, and then there are moments during this one like the protagonist presumably turning into his Persona in the middle of a crowd, at the beginning. It might be that the line between "real world" and "Shadow world" is a bit more ambiguous, this time around.
But "Anne" would be in Katakana, cause "An" does not sound the same.
I'm just saying that people making the jump to "Anne" are making big assumptions, when "Anzu" is likely the most valid interpretation, with no additional work involved.
"An" is ok too, but it's a less common name.
It's very likely not "Anne" though.
"Risa" vs "Lisa" is not the same situation at all.
Makoto Yuki
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Looks like an evolution of what we got from P3 and P4, not to say that's bad. If it's more P3 and P4 gameplay, with new additions, awesome. It's the sneaking and jumping off chandeliers that has me intrigued. Yeah SE's recent output has been lacking but I like the fact that they are not afraid to experiment. FFXIII for as much as people hated it wasn't terrible. FFXIII-2 fixed many of it's problems and Lightning Returns had a pretty awesome battle system.
Now THAT would be an especially cool twist on things. I hadn't even thought of that.
Japanmanx3
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It's the menus and the song that are attracting me the most right now. Gracious.
Lighting is usually an easy improvement.
charlequin
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Unless we see and hear otherwise you should assume that they will look exactly the same.
eyeball_kid
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Have you...played Persona/SMT games before? Atlus is not exactly known for technically superior graphics engines. Expecting anything more than an average graphics experience is probably setting your sights too high. That being said, aesthetically Persona Team is tops.
I do wonder why they scrapped using Gamebryo after Catherine though. Does Gamebryo require a license fee per copy sold? Otherwise it seems silly to spend so much time creating an equivalent graphics engine when they could instead focus on the content.
We'll get a version that's 1080p and maybe 60fps. These are the graphics though, honestly. It's not about the Bandwith of the hardware, but the Bandwith of Atlus. Their strength is in art direction and that's very much the case here.
P3 and P4 could've looked better on PS2. It's just not about that for them.
metalslimer
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It's Atlus and it's Persona. I don't know what kind of graphics boost you expect? It might look a little bit cleaner on the PS4 version but there probably isn't going to be a drastic change. I think it looks fantastic especially coming from the PS2 based previous games
What bump are you looking for?
Shouta
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Ken Watanabe's daughter is an example of this though, lol. She uses "杏” pronounced アン/あん but spelled as "Anne" in English.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/杏_(女優)
I noticed that in the closeup shot of the girl spinning, it's raining. Which might (kinda) explain why they are sliding around. It's slippery when it rains. So, maybe weather plays into this.
Or it could just be because it looks cool.
Huh, I'm so confused now.
It's all about that Japanese pride brah. Gotta roll with a proprietary engine to prove your worth until you start losing billions like Capcom and Square.
super-famicom
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The romanization of アン/あん is going to be An, but Anne is most commonly used because English speakers would see "an" as an article and Anne is a name also used by English speaking countries.
Another example would be 譲 (じょう, Jō
. Instead of Jō, the name would be romanized as Joe.Don't expect too much of a difference, maybe resolution (from 720 to 1080) and that will be it, they might not even improve framerate so I suppose it'll run at 30fps on both consoles.
Edit: Damn! First post of the page. Act cool...
Don't expect too much of a difference, maybe resolution (from 720 to 1080) and that will be it, they might not even improve framerate so I suppose it'll run at 30fps on both consoles.
Edit: Damn! First post of the page. Act cool...
ok, I laughed
Gamebryo is worth getting away from for its reputation alone.
I haven't seen many people bring up the "You Are Slave, Want Emancipation?" line from the Persona 5 reveal trailer in this thread. I think it's a given at this point that the line's from the Phantom, aka the main character. Probably relates to the main characters' motivations which consists of liberating people from the shackles of society or a higher power.
Edit: Damn! First post of the page. Act cool...
too late
the thread is about this now
plutoknight
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Assuming you can use the engine a lot, it can be a great money saver in the long run.
Capcom's MT Framework is a great example of this. SE's crystal tools is not.
hipsterpants
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I feel like maybe we should just wait until new info comes out instead of trying to figure out if/how she's foreign since there's no way to know until more info comes out lol
That said, her being a foreigner would make sense given the game's (apparent) themes.
That said, her being a foreigner would make sense given the game's (apparent) themes.
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