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Nintendo's new platform codename: "Project NX"

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So if a new Nintendo console is going to release in 3yrs, do you guys think this current gen will end in 4yrs for the new PS5/XB2?
Or will PS4/XB do another 10yrs cycle again?

The PS4 is selling well, so it will have a longer cycle. The Wii U failed to connect with consumers so it will be phased out much more quickly.
 

foxuzamaki

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EloquentM

aka Mannny
The PS4 is selling well, so no. The Wii U failed to connect with consumers so it will be phased out much more quickly.
That makes no sense from a business standpoint. Why canna alive your current console line when it's continuing to sell. That's why PS3 and 360 lasted so long. They were selling enough for them to turn a profit so they kept supporting the consoles.
 
People already jumping to the conclusion that the NX will be some cutting edge piece of hardware like Sony and MS offerings. If anything, embracing mobile will make them even *more* conservative about specs.

How? Mobile devices put Nintendo handhelds to shame in terms of specs. Nothing announced today says anything about the specs of their new hardware.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
Isn't this kinda soon for them to be announcing a new platform?
No next year 3ds will be 6 years old and wii u will be 5. That's traditionally right on time. This was actually an announcement of an announcement to quell fears about them becoming dedicated completely to mobile.
 
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kittens

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As for Wii U "tanking", it has a market share problem that it's never going to overcome, but it's profitable and growing year over year. There is more harm to be done than good by rushing a successor.
It's not necessarily harmful, nor should it necessarily be considered rushing. A console / handheld hybrid in 2016 would be right on time to replace the 3DS and appropriately timed to replace the Wii U considering its terrible performance.
 

virtualS

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As much as I wish it wasn't true, Nintendo need to move on from WiiU urgently. I see NX as a Christmas 2016 product with PS4+ specs and a unique twist.
 
So we expecting a 2017 release? That seems bad considering its right in the middle of the PS4/XB1 generation....assuming this NX thing has a home console counterpart and is not just a handheld. Whats going to happen with the WiiU in such a case?
 

Thoraxes

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No next year 3ds will be 6 years old and wii u will be 5. That's traditionally right on time. This was actually an announcement of an announcement to quell fears about them becoming dedicated completely to mobile.

3DS came out in 2011. It just turned 4.

Still, 5 years is about in line with their handheld strategies.
 
developing a new dedicated gaming system and smartphone games is all fine and dandy but the slide that shows PC has me interested the most. Nintendo software on pc would be nuts even it was just VC i would be insanely happy
 
No next year 3ds will be 6 years old and wii u will be 5. That's traditionally right on time. This was actually an announcement of an announcement to quell fears about them becoming dedicated completely to mobile.

In 2016 the Wii U will only be four years old. The 3DS will only be 5. It's a short cycle (at least for the Wii U) but trying to stretch it to 2017 is absurd
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
hey, maybe it could be to the WiiU/3DS what the DS was to the GBA

I would love that, although that's the opposite of what Nintendo tried with the "third pillar" crap. It would be a unification. I wonder, if this is a hybrid of sorts if it will at least have some kind of SKU difference for at home and on the go.
 
That makes no sense from a business standpoint. Why canna alive your current console line when it's continuing to sell. That's why PS3 and 360 lasted so long. They were selling enough for them to turn a profit so they kept supporting the consoles.


Sorry, my reply wasnt clear. I meant to say that the PS4 is selling well so it will have a longer cycle, while the Wii U is doing poorly at retail and will be phased out quickly.
 

Sheroking

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It's not necessarily harmful, nor should it necessarily be considered rushing. A console / handheld hybrid in 2016 would be right on time to replace the 3DS and appropriately timed to replace the Wii U considering its terrible performance.

I can pretty much guarantee Nintendo is not releasing a home console in 2016. It takes far too long to develop games, especially the first cycle of games, to have it ready by then.

A 2016 reveal and a fall 2017 release would be timed appropriately as ALL Nintendo systems have five to six year life cycles.
 

random25

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Isn't this kinda soon for them to be announcing a new platform?

Quite early, yeah. But with the news of "Nintendo entering mobile space" you just gotta have something to appease dedicated gaming hardware user base. Besides, we just don't know when "NX" will arrive. 3DS is about 5 yo while Wii U will be about 4 by 2016, so by 2017 onwards both platforms are "mature" enough to get their successors.
 

Thoraxes

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Sorry I'm from the future. I keep forgetting we're in 2015

=P

It still stands though. They said they'd release more info NEXT year

I want to be in 2016 right now too :p

Ever since the New 3DS announcement this all falls in line with a timeline I expected. 2016 unveiling, late 2016 early 2017 release.
 

GamerJM

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Since the GBA, every Nintendo handheld has came out before the Nintendo console of that generation. There's no way that come Fall 2016 both will be out. There's simply not enough time to do that. I'm thinking handheld Spring 2017, console Fall 2018 makes the most sense. Any earlier would strongly surprise me.

Absolutely not. Fall 2018 for a new console? I doubt they'd give the Wii U that many years.
 

RBK

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No next year 3ds will be 6 years old and wii u will be 5. That's traditionally right on time. This was actually an announcement of an announcement to quell fears about them becoming dedicated completely to mobile.

Wii U isn't even 3 years into it's life cycle yet. 3DS is barely 4 years in as well.
 
If that slide about a new membership service means accounts are no longer tied to hardware, and are easily activated / moved across devices, then you've got my attention.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
In 2016 the Wii U will only be four years old. The 3DS will only be 5. It's a short cycle (at least for the Wii U) but trying to stretch it to 2017 is absurd
Idk when you look at it the ds ---> 3ds was the only outlier situation. Most of their console cycles are 5-6 years. Ds was just selling very well.
 

Sheroking

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Wii U isn't even 3 years into it's life cycle yet. 3DS is barely 4 years in as well.

When Nintendo announced the Revolution, the GameCube was 3 years into it's life. It was five when the Nintendo Wii released. The Gameboy Advance only had a 4 year life cycle. 3DS will probable enjoy 5+ years.

For Nintendo, Wii/DS life-spans are not typical and likely products of their own gangbuster success.
 

yuraya

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It will probably be something along the lines of what Nvidia is doing with the new shield device. A small box that will be for playing and streaming games.
 
I can pretty much guarantee Nintendo is not releasing a home console in 2016. It takes far too long to develop games, especially the first cycle of games, to have it ready by then.

A 2016 reveal and a fall 2017 release would be timed appropriately as ALL Nintendo systems have five to six year life cycles.

They would have games ready by then if they had quietly moved unnaounced projects over to it. I don't think Nintendo so wants to go two more holidays seasons with the anemic sales they currently have in the West.
 
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Rösti

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why is people pumping this E3? he "NX" will be unveiled next year, not this year..
Third party developers will likely be briefed in some way at E3 this year (some will likely be briefed before). That allows a chance for leaks and rumors. But sure, actual information directly from the source will come first next year.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the theater they have booked (their regular one) is to provide more information on this DeNA business.
 

Sheroking

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They would have games ready by then if they had quietly moved unnaounced projects over to it. I don't think Nintendo so wants to go two more holidays seasons with the anemic sales they currently have in the West.

Again, people are so infatuated by the market share problem that ultimately impacts them no matter when the successor comes that they fail to see Nintendo is clearly in the black right now, and with year over year growth.

They have not one reason to risk their future business on the notion of "anemic sales". They have to win consumers back anyway.
 
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kittens

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They would have games ready by then if they had quietly moved unnaounced projects over to it. I don't think Nintendo so wants to go two more holidays seasons with the anemic sales they currently have in the West.
Yup, exactly what I was thinking. I do think 2016 is a little optimistic, but certainly not impossible.
 

18-Volt

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Traditional X Andorid fusion console sounds amazing. Soon full AAA games will appear on Android (Borderlands 2, Metal Gear Rising, Crysis 3, RE5, compatible starting with Shield Console) and if NX could be able to run those games it would be a packed console right out of box.

Hopefully many other AAA games continue appearing on Google Play.
 
Isn't this kinda soon for them to be announcing a new platform?

It's probably their new handheld, so a late 2016 or early 2017 launch would give the system a 5.5 -6 year long lifecycle.

Thats would be longer than the GBA (from 2001-2005, so about 4 years) and about the same length or a tiny bit shorter than the DS (2005-2011, ~6.5 years).

Idk when you look at it the ds ---> 3ds was the only outlier situation. Most of their console cycles are 5-6 years. Ds was just selling very well.

The only outlier is the original GameBoy (1989-1998). The DS' lifespan is very comparable to the estimated Lifecycle of the 3DS.
 

JoeM86

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Traditional X Andorid fusion console sounds amazing. Soon full AAA games will appear on Android (Borderlands 2, Metal Gear Rising, Crysis 3, RE5, compatible starting with Shield Console) and if NX could be able to run those games it would be a packed console right out of box.

Hopefully many other AAA games continue appearing on Google Play.

That is very unlikely.
 

Busty

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A handheld with a special dock that has hdmi out and also an extra GPU for console gaming?

If Nintendo were smart this is what it is. To try and follow up the WiiU with another 'traditional' home console would be a foolish endeavour a this point. They caught lightning in a bottle with the Wii and they aren't going to recapture it with the same level of success.

If Nintendo want to stay relevant this is exactly what they need to do, think outside the box. A hybrid console that straddles the success of the 3DS and the original Wii in one unit has the potential to be huge.

I think it's clear that the third party publishers and the general (and by that I mean the Xbox and PS crowd) console audience have left the Nintendo brand and aren't coming back. Nintendo need to accept that and go a 'third way'.
 

Mato

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NX = Nexus?

Platform agnosticism, cloud gaming, legacy titles on PC/smartphones, and flexible gaming setups(Wii U with a third-party tablet) are all possibilities. Essentially they might be looking to expand the reach of software available on Nintendo devices while remaining a hardware manufacturer. Not absolutely Steam, but kind of.
 
Traditional X Andorid fusion console sounds amazing. Soon full AAA games will appear on Android (Borderlands 2, Metal Gear Rising, Crysis 3, RE5, compatible starting with Shield Console) and if NX could be able to run those games it would be a packed console right out of box.

Hopefully many other AAA games continue appearing on Google Play.

And that will never happen. Nintendo deosn't want Google to take a 30% royalty cut.

Literally zero chance.
 

virtualS

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So... another Wii U?

In a way, yes. But this time not too late and hopefully with unique qualities that actually sell.

It should also run all current gen software and then some.. unless Nintendo intentionally wash their hands of third parties entirely.
 

18-Volt

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It's probably their new handheld, so a late 2016 or early 2017 launch would give the system a 5.5 -6 year long lifecycle.

Even late 2016 sounds a bit late. 3DS is dying and there are no software slated to release this summer and fall. And if they decide not to announce huge slew of (New) 3DS games at E3, I think we can get our hands on the new system as early as Spring 2016.
 
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