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[Gattsu25]

Considering you are the one who suggested this thread in the "games with the worst loading time" thread I'm not surprised I guess this is the new concern and docking review points because of long load times? really. I wonder why not add points then for best loading times ... hint The Order and Driveclub.

Start caring less about review scores.

Scores are fucking worthless in this industry since most of the industry operates with only 20-30% of the review scale and the rest (IMO, correctly) use the full scale. A 60 from one site is a worthy game and slightly above average, while from another site it is garbage. Reading the reviews will tell you more about what the reviewer really thought than the score will, in most cases.

This part isn't to you but a general bit of advice to folks regarding reviews: Read the reviews then internally use them to come to your own conclusions. Also, if faced with a general sup-par consensus in reviews for a hotly anticipated game... don't assume that the people who have played the game have a wrong opinion while you, who hasn't played the game yet, has the correct one.

The pre-release buzz from people who have played this game appears to be very high so this likely doesn't apply in this case but it's something that bugs me in most review (embarrassing) threads.

 

[Vroadstar]

Try looking up Duke Nukem Forever, Mass Effect, Skyrim on PS3 just to name a few. Load times have been a complaint before.

You can relax and lower your shields. Load times aren't deflating hype.

For most I agree, including me, but I guess it deflated yours then....

I had to look this up and now I'm a little bit less excited. That's ridiculous. Frequent and long load times kill a lot of games for me.

I think this needs it's own topic now.

Just need to scratch that itch, amirite?

 

[Leona Lewis]

Not excusing load times, and they may still bug you. It's just my opinion on load times. I'm fine with them. Time to text, check emails, get a drink, take a stretch, think about work, etc.,

Loading times don't bug ME because I have other things in life to deal with than just gaming at all times.

I'll write e-mails and think about work when I'm at work.

30+ second loading times are immersion killers. Simple as that.

 

[Lemondish]

I tweeted bloodbornes producer about the loading screen hopefully it means something.
uggghh its the only thing ive got to complain about.

Whatever are you going to do if they fix it? I have faith in you, though. If you're really hell bent on finding something to complain about, I'm sure you'll be successful.

I think this bull is why we should never be given nice things.

 

[KainXVIII]

Spoiled who? I don't have pc. This stealth port begging is annoying

Fix your portbegging detector.

 

[Fliesen]

Not excusing load times, and they may still bug you. It's just my opinion on load times. I'm fine with them. Time to text, check emails, get a drink, take a stretch, think about work, etc.,

Loading times don't bug ME because I have other things in life to deal with than just gaming at all times.

Sure i could take a quick wank whenever i'm going back to the tower in Destiny - that doesn't make any less shitty.
Also, your last sentence sounds super dickish.

30+ second loading times are immersion killers. Simple as that.

correct.

 

[Vroadstar]

When I notice fast or very slow loading times in a game, I pretty much always write it down in my reviews. And yes, that influences the score of the game.

So I would assume the loading times for both Driveclub and The Order influenced your reviews for both games? that is if reviewed them. I would love to read them, please show me the link.

 

[Lemondish]

Sure i could take a quick wank whenever i'm going back to the tower in Destiny - that doesn't make any less shitty.
Also, your last sentence sounds super dickish.


correct.

And all this whining about loading times sounds super silly. *shrug*

 

[tuna_love]

Whatever are you going to do if they fix it? I have faith in you, though. If you're really hell bent on finding something to complain about, I'm sure you'll be successful.

I think this bull is why we should never be given nice things.

Given?

 

[gaming_noob]

Not excusing load times, and they may still bug you. It's just my opinion on load times. I'm fine with them. Time to text, check emails, get a drink, take a stretch, think about work, etc.,

Loading times don't bug ME because I have other things in life to deal with than just gaming at all times.

What about the rest of us who could only find 1-2 hours a week to play? The loading times is a huge concern for me. I can't play the Forza games because it.

 

[Hubble]

That's a -1.0 in a review score.

 

[SmokyDave]

And all this whining about loading times sounds super silly. *shrug*

Long load times in games with frequent deaths are a pain in the arse. Simple as.

 

[GorillaJu]

Sure i could take a quick wank whenever i'm going back to the tower in Destiny - that doesn't make any less shitty.
Also, your last sentence sounds super dickish.


correct.

The difference between this and Destiny is that the only loading is after death or going to the Hunter's dream. Destiny has loading errrrrywhere, and all of it is long. The entire city of Yharnam is one continuous zone with no loading.

So if you're going back to the Hunter's Dream, it's (imo) not a big issue because you're taking a break in a sense anyway. And if you're dying a lot then git guuuuudddddd

 

[GarciaHotspur]

That's a -1.0 in a review score.

Are you serious ? It's at least a -5 / -6

 

[Scrawnton]

What exactly are you trying to say here? People who aren't bothered by long loading times have more to there life than gaming?

Stop being so damn defensive. All I'm saying is I don't minds loading times because I do other things while games are loading.

 

[Cisab]

I don't really care about loading times at all. I remember when I had a shitty PC and had to wait ages for BF1942 to load. This won't bother me at all.

 

[hohoXD123]

No ones actually going to stare at a blank screen for 35+ seconds come on. The hyperbole is real. Its an issue yes but not anything like holy shit worthy.

Pretty much. I'm always on my phone while games are loading even if it's pretty short. Staring at a black screen for 30 seconds won't be soul crushing, the fact that you'll be dying many, many times because of your lack of gitting gud will be.

 

[Newtype-001]

Whatever are you going to do if they fix it? I have faith in you, though. If you're really hell bent on finding something to complain about, I'm sure you'll be successful.

I think this bull is why we should never be given nice things.

I dont know what you're trying to suggest but loading screens is the only issue i have. They are just not good in comparison to what from have given us before as loading screens. i could care less about loading times but loading screens really bug me.

 

[tuna_love]

Stop being so damn defensive. All I'm saying is I don't minds loading times because I do other things while games are loading.

Me being defensive? That last sentence was a real cunt of a thing to say.

 

[Kuro]

People were just waiting for something to complain about with this game weren't they. This is issue is getting over exaggerated. Hopefully the day one patch will fix this so this doesn't become loading gate.

 

[travisbickle]

The difference between this and Destiny is that the only loading is after death or going to the Hunter's dream. Destiny has loading errrrrywhere, and all of it is long. The entire city of Yharnam is one continuous zone with no loading.

So if you're going back to the Hunter's Dream, it's (imo) not a big issue because you're taking a break in a sense anyway. And if you're dying a lot then git guuuuudddddd

From what I've watched on stream, returning to Hunter's Dream has been 10-15 seconds. Looks like it's dying that leads to long times, 30+ from what I've seen.

 

[Netrunner2k2]

I'm really looking forward to the game (and it's the only ps4 game that I'm really interested in out or announced), but load times are a huuugggeee pet peeve of mine. Especially since I know I'll die a lot. I've been wavering waiting on bloodborne, but it might push me to trade in the thing that just sits there.

 

[BokehKing]

Eh... Are we really complaining about load screens jn video games? Did people complain about Skyrim load screens? Oh we got to twirl 3-d models around so it didn't matter (guess what, that lost its novelty after a week)

Load screens are a thing, hopefully review sites don't dock points for that when they over look gameplay issues or broken games features in other games.

 

[JimPanzer]

I don't really mind, time to do some quick kanji reviews

 

[Styles]

Long load times in games with frequent deaths are a pain in the arse. Simple as.

This is probably the game's way of punishing you for being shit and telling you to get good.

 

[TheSpoiler]

I don't know if this has been addressed but:

From the leakers, it seems like the game is trying to access the server, but can't since the servers aren't even up yet. So it takes 30 plus more seconds until the game realizes there's no online.

In addition to that, there's a Day 1 patch to be applied still, so it probably fixes that. If not, From, you'd better be on that shit.

 

[Vroadstar]

Dragon age: Inquisition also does this:





What is wrong with docking review points because of long load times? If I had to wait 40 seconds every time I died in dark souls 1/2, that would impact my enjoyment of the game,and if I were to write a review, I will lower the score because of this.

The game's not officially release yet, and we don't know if reviewers dock points because of the load times. I guess you played on PC for both games then?

 

[hohoXD123]

Me being defensive? That last sentence was a real cunt of a thing to say.

What? How was it? He's not suggesting that people who are complaining about this have nothing else to do in life.

 

[Fliesen]

Stop being so damn defensive. All I'm saying is I don't minds loading times because I do other things while games are loading.

you were being kinda dickish.

also, i don't see people posting in threads about games running on native 720p "yeah, well it doesn't matter TO ME, because my TV only goes up to 720p!" Like, what does that contribute?

 

[Scrawnton]

Me being defensive? That last sentence was a real cunt of a thing to say.

In what way? Because I said loading times dont bug me because I don't think about gaming all day? If you are insinuating that I was talking down to you guys then that is just all of you reading between the lines. Pulling out a point that was never said.

 

[KainXVIII]

This is probably the game's way of punishing you for being shit and telling you to get good.

Permadeath will be more punishing.

 

[RecursiveFault]

I don't know if this has been addressed but:

From the leakers, it seems like the game is trying to access the server, but can't since the servers aren't even up yet. So it takes 30 plus more seconds until the game realizes there's no online.

In addition to that, there's a Day 1 patch to be applied still, so it probably fixes that. If not, From, you'd better be on that shit.

Mmm, that's a really good point.

 

[Mogwai]

People were just waiting for something to complain about with this game weren't they. This is issue is getting over exaggerated. Hopefully the day one patch will fix this so this doesn't become loading gate.

You just had your moment to whine a little yourself?

It seems like the day 1 patch doesn't improve loading times.

 

[Leona Lewis]

I don't know if this has been addressed but:

From the leakers, it seems like the game is trying to access the server, but can't since the servers aren't even up yet. So it takes 30 plus more seconds until the game realizes there's no online.

In addition to that, there's a Day 1 patch to be applied still, so it probably fixes that. If not, From, you'd better be on that shit.

That might explain why the alpha had faster load times.

This thread is hilarious, by the way. It's plain to see which of you lot has an agenda one way or another.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

I don't know if this has been addressed but:

From the leakers, it seems like the game is trying to access the server, but can't since the servers aren't even up yet. So it takes 30 plus more seconds until the game realizes there's no online.

In addition to that, there's a Day 1 patch to be applied still, so it probably fixes that. If not, From, you'd better be on that shit.

That was my question no one answered, can the loading time improve, when the servers are up ?

 

[borborygmus]

I don't know if this has been addressed but:

From the leakers, it seems like the game is trying to access the server, but can't since the servers aren't even up yet. So it takes 30 plus more seconds until the game realizes there's no online.

In addition to that, there's a Day 1 patch to be applied still, so it probably fixes that. If not, From, you'd better be on that shit.

The game's been available for 10 days in some areas, so I wonder if anyone who has the game can tell us if Offline Mode has similar load times (a few GAFers from Dubai and Kuwait have the game).

 

[red731]

Well. The day off is already paying off

 

[RecursiveFault]

That was my question no one answered me, can the loading time improve, when the servers are up ?

It not that it improves, but that *in theory* the loading screen is showing because it's masking the game trying to connect to the servers, it tries for 30 seconds, then gives up.

But the idea is that yeah, if it can connect, it wouldn't wait for a time out.

 

[JimPanzer]

Dragon age: Inquisition also does this:





What is wrong with docking review points because of long load times? If I had to wait 40 seconds every time I died in dark souls 1/2, that would impact my enjoyment of the game,and if I were to write a review, I will lower the score because of this.

The game's not officially release yet, and we don't know if reviewers dock points because of the load times. I guess you played on PC for both games then?

Does a movie on TV get worse because it's interrupted by adverts? Certainly you won't enjoy the movie as much as you would without the ads, but it doesn't make the movie itself worse.

Spoiler

I know, the simile is not the best and leaves a few open spots, come at me.

 

[i-Lo]

Wait, is the load time for respawning around 35 seconds?

 

[Wallach]

Does a movie on TV get worse because it's interrupted by adverts? Certainly you won't enjoy the movie as much as you would without the ads, but it doesn't make the movie itself worse.

Spoiler

I know, the simile is not the best and leaves a few open spots, come at me.

lol what is going on in this thread right now

 

[Despera]

Long load times in games with frequent deaths are a pain in the arse. Simple as.

I find it weird that we even need to break it down to some folks.

 

[tuna_love]

I find it weird that we even need to break it down to some folks.

Just send an email.

 

[Despera]

Dragon age: Inquisition also does this:

An even better example.

 

[TheSpoiler]

That might explain why the alpha had faster load times.

This thread is hilarious, by the way. It's plain to see which of you lot has an agenda one way or another.

Probably the reason.

That was my question no one answered, can the loading time improve, when the servers are up ?

Hopefully. If the game isn't trying to access the server all the time, then yeah. But the troubling thing is that if the patch DOESN'T fix it, we'll be looking at long loading times until From implements that for those who want to play offline/aren't on an internet connection.

We'll see day 1.

 

[Tetranet]

What about those with a faster HDD than default in their PS4? Any significant difference there?



Not that these lengths are acceptable, but at least there is hope for a workaround.

 

[Kuro]

Docking review points for excessively long load times is understandable but 30 seconds isn't even that big a deal. Really.

 

[Phazon]

So I would assume the loading times for both Driveclub and The Order influenced your reviews for both games? that is if reviewed them. I would love to read them, please show me the link.

I didn't review those games (my colleague 'dawg', also on Neogaf, did those). Usually I'm responsible for Nintendo stuff. Lego City is a good example (and there, loading times were a big minus because it took a minute or longer sometimes). The reviews are also in Dutch, so you won't understand it.

 

[TatteredHat]

Does a movie on TV get worse because it's interrupted by adverts? Certainly you won't enjoy the movie as much as you would without the ads, but it doesn't make the movie itself worse.

Spoiler

I know, the simile is not the best and leaves a few open spots, come at me.

The movie doesn't get worse, but the experience of watching it does.

The same thing applies here, while the game itself doesn't get worse the experience playing it does get worse because you're constantly being pulled out of your immersion due to excessive loading times. It doesn't matter if the game is amazing if it's not fun to play.

 

[Gattsu25]

Does a movie on TV get worse because it's interrupted by adverts? Certainly you won't enjoy the movie as much as you would without the ads, but it doesn't make the movie itself worse.

Spoiler

I know, the simile is not the best and leaves a few open spots, come at me.

Honestly?

Yeah.

I hate watching movies with adverts.

Not sure how that's relevant, though.