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BloodBorne Sales Expectations : What are yours? What Could Sony's be ?

1.2 million is about what demon's souls did on PS3 back in 2009. You might want to revise that estimate upward a bit.
Yeah, it might be a bit low, but the original souls was also a really good game, and exclusive.

...I think that BB being slightly more mainstream could give it an edge, but it's main audience is still going to be souls fans.

Anyways, the PS3/PS4 user base at the release of deamon souls in 2009, and BB now is quite comparable, so I think the sales will be similar, but maybe a bit better....
1.5-1.8m
 

farisr

Member
If Demons Souls was able to sell more than a million, then this has 3+ million potential. This game looks far more appealing to the average gamer than the souls series based off my personal anectodal evidence, which is:

1) my own opinion on the game, Based off the gameplay demonstrations, and trailers, this game looked appealing enough to me to keep get it day 1. I didn't even get around to playing Demons' Souls even after it became a PS+ title,

2) My friends'/acquaintences' impressions/excitement for the game. They were not interested in the souls games either, but have been looking forward to this game.

Aside from that, the metacritic score, and user impressions have been good as well, and those help with sales, especially a 90+ score on metacritic.
 

Kieli

Member
I certainly hopes this sells well, because I fell in love all over again.

Which is kind of amazing considering I went into it anti-hyped + DSII didn't impress me all that much (though DSII is still a great game).
 

takriel

Member
I wish this game all the sales in the world. THIS is what current-gen gaming should strive for. Can't wait for Dark Souls 3 now. Good times ahead.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I dunno, i've seen a lot of interest online, but there are a lot of angry people who are not willing to buy a PS4 for this game and are very bitter about that. So its kind of something i'm stuggling to see doing exceptionally well in the long run. I mean Demon's got about 1.9 million but that was when Souls was a very new thing and PS3 had a 60/70 million player base
 
People keep talking about BB being niche, but I'm having a hard time believing that given the sheer amount of hype online.

This isn't a Bayo 2 situation where GAF and a few other corners praised it to high heavens while no one else realized it even existed; this is a situation where every mainstream games site is focusing all their attention on Bloodborne.

Is the game popular enough to rival CoD or GTA? Of course not. But people here are acting like the mainstream has no interest in this at all, which I highly doubt.
 

Jomjom

Banned
I dunno, i've seen a lot of interest online, but there are a lot of angry people who are not willing to buy a PS4 for this game and are very bitter about that. So its kind of something i'm stuggling to see doing exceptionally well in the long run. I mean Demon's got about 1.9 million but that was when Souls was a very new thing and PS3 had a 60/70 million player base

Just keep in mind that bitter, disgruntled people are usually the loudest. If you are happy, you generally don't make any noise.
 
I really hope it does well.
I want both the souls and bloodborne sereis to exist side by side.

Im p sure sony are happy with the outcome.
 

Kathian

Banned
People keep talking about BB being niche, but I'm having a hard time believing that given the sheer amount of hype online.

This isn't a Bayo 2 situation where GAF and a few other corners praised it to high heavens while no one else realized it even existed; this is a situation where every mainstream games site is focusing all their attention on Bloodborne.

Is the game popular enough to rival CoD or GTA? Of course not. But people here are acting like the mainstream has no interest in this at all, which I highly doubt.

No different to Dark Souls 2.
 
I dunno, i've seen a lot of interest online, but there are a lot of angry people who are not willing to buy a PS4 for this game and are very bitter about that. So its kind of something i'm stuggling to see doing exceptionally well in the long run. I mean Demon's got about 1.9 million but that was when Souls was a very new thing and PS3 had a 60/70 million player base

The disgruntled people always make the most noise. Won't much be of a factor.
 
I dunno, i've seen a lot of interest online, but there are a lot of angry people who are not willing to buy a PS4 for this game and are very bitter about that. So its kind of something i'm stuggling to see doing exceptionally well in the long run. I mean Demon's got about 1.9 million but that was when Souls was a very new thing and PS3 had a 60/70 million player base

I find it bizarre that Sony didn't place the Japan Studio logo beside From Software. This is still their partnership is it not? It would at least quell some of the disgruntled people out there if it is explicitly marked as such.
 

flokk

Neo Member
When i went to my local Media Markt (outskirts of Berlin/Germany) yesterday to buy the game, the clerk told me that they didn't get enough copies to meet demand and they were almost sold out. Afterwards the lady at the checkout confirmed this, according to her i was like the 20th customer to buy the game and that only includes the ones she actually saw, there are three checkouts in total. Keep in mind that this was all before official release and the game wasn't even on the shelves, so you had to ask the clerk to get it for you.

So all in all, i think this will be a pretty successful launch for the game, especially here in germany.
 

noobie

Banned
I dunno, i've seen a lot of interest online, but there are a lot of angry people who are not willing to buy a PS4 for this game and are very bitter about that. So its kind of something i'm stuggling to see doing exceptionally well in the long run. I mean Demon's got about 1.9 million but that was when Souls was a very new thing and PS3 had a 60/70 million player base

I see that user score on metacritic for bloodborne is 9/10 which is pretty impressive.

Look like naysayers are failing to stop this train. i believe it will be do considerably well.
 
I find it bizarre that Sony didn't place the Japan Studio logo beside From Software. This is still their partnership is it not? It would at least quell some of the disgruntled people out there if it is explicitly marked as such.

No one does that as far as I know. In a movie or game each company/subsidiary get their own billing. And I like the way it was revealed. From Software was last party introduced and in the biggest font because they are clearly the star of show. When Santa Monica works with an external studio it is done the same way.
 
When i went to my local Media Markt (outskirts of Berlin/Germany) yesterday to buy the game, the clerk told me that they didn't get enough copies to meet demand and they were almost sold out. Afterwards the lady at the checkout confirmed this, according to her i was like the 20th customer to buy the game and that only includes the ones she actually saw, there are three checkouts in total. Keep in mind that this was all before official release and the game wasn't even on the shelves, so you had to ask the clerk to get it for you.

So all in all, i think this will be a pretty successful launch for the game, especially here in germany.

It sold out online at several stores yesterday including Best Buy, Amazon (now back in stock) and Newegg. Anecdotally, I've seen reports of Gamestops (and other retailers) in the U.S. selling out or being low in stock. A quick search shows a few Gamestops in the NYC area around me being low. I think there's a bit more demand than Sony anticipated and it's selling well.
 
Finally a reasonable estimate. Closest to my predictions as well... though it will never get anywhere near 3-4MM sell through WW. That would be close to 3X Dark souls 2... and BB is only on 1 platform!!

Dark Souls II sold 1.2 million copies in three weeks, and almost 1 million copies on just PC last year. I don't think we have final figures, but even before Scholar of the First Sin launches I expect it's done well over 2 million sales; probably over 2.5 million.
 
This isn't a Bayo 2 situation where GAF and a few other corners praised it to high heavens while no one else realized it even existed; this is a situation where every mainstream games site is focusing all their attention on Bloodborne.

Bayo got as far as The Video Game Awards last year, same as Dark Souls 2.

The gap between the general public and the people that visit these sites are quite large from personal experience. Unless everyone is hiding their power levels.
 
Bayo got as far as The Video Game Awards last year, same as Dark Souls 2.

The gap between the general public and the people that visit these sites are quite large from personal experience. Unless everyone is hiding their power levels.

There's still truth to his point. B2 was very niche. Bloodborne is on a different level. DS/2 sold 2-3 million. Bloodborne has critical acclaim, has been marketed a lot and is on a platform that is doing tremendously well.
 

TsuWave

Member
That was on three systems, no? This game has cut 66% of its platform base by being an exclusive. Probably less than that, as I believe the Souls games have often sold the most on Sony's platforms, anyway.

not fair to say it has cut off 66% of its platform base seeing as it is a new IP and not a direct continuation of the soul series, even if some of its "essence" is in there

looking at the ps4 user base i expect it do to at least a million
 

molnizzle

Member
Dark Souls 2 had a pre/post-launch campaign, and was pretty hyped for the type of game that this is and was even with DS2. And that was coming off of the recent "exposure high" that DS1 was receiving from its growing popularity.

Maybe.

Then again, Dark Souls II wasn't trending on Facebook on release day. ;-)
 
1-2 million ish at most.

It'll have the benefit of being a big game on a game starved platform, but it's an exclusive, and one that appeals to a very niche audience at that.

yeah, it's going to be interesting to see player impressions from people who haven't played a souls game before but wanted something to play on their ps4
 

E92 M3

Member
yeah, it's going to be interesting to see player impressions from people who haven't played a souls game before but wanted something to play on their ps4

Hopefully, they don't make it more accessible and streamlined since it's hitting such a big audience now.
 

Poop!

Member
I find it bizarre that Sony didn't place the Japan Studio logo beside From Software. This is still their partnership is it not? It would at least quell some of the disgruntled people out there if it is explicitly marked as such.

When making credits for games, the companies that have the most to do with the development of the game appear closest to the actual game which is why you see the FROM logo right before the start screen.
 

klaushm

Member
So, my guess is 1.2m this month.

I really would like to belive that the sales increase on the next month to 1.4m.
It is possible with mouth to mouth marketing, fix patches and good reviews.
Gamers that were not convinced or confident about the game quality, or even people who wouldn't even bought it get aware.

But, that prediction makes my year prediction fail. At march 2016, I think they will sell 4.3m.

If my escalating prediction is right, they will do waaaaaaaay better than 4.3m.
 

Boke1879

Member
The Bloodborne digital code is rapidly climbing on amazon. Most likely because the game is out of stock there. The thirst is real.

I really wish Sony gave digital numbers. I'm interested to see them
 

Slaythe

Member
I know more than 15 people that bought a ps4 just for the game.

Everybody and their mother are playing this. It's gonna be big.
 
I'll guess 2.5 million maybe 3 million, it's not a universal game but one that will get sales because of Souls love and peaked interest on how well the game scored. It'll sell what Sony and From want it to sell (I think), it'd be weird if they thought it would be a 5-6 million seller.
Though Sony should think about a remaster of Demon's Souls to bounce off of BloodBorne. If they could get that game out running 60fps and sell it on PS4 they'd have a lot of people who never got a chance to play it before, and if they liked BloodBorne might be happy to try this out (though I know it's tired at this point to get remasters). Still they'd get another million at least I'd assume just from that.
 
When I went to Gamestop to pick up my Majora's Mask 3DS the guy told me this when I asked how Bloodborne's release went.

"If they would have released it on Xbox One in addition to PS4 they would have easily sold a couple million copys, but without XB1 or a PC release I bet they'll barely hit 1 million".

To which I asked "Really? What about the large user base of Playstation 4 owners that are still looking for a killer game? Don't you think that should move at least a 10% share of the current user base? What about potential clients on the edge that are long time Souls fans, wouldn't they be more inclined to jump into a system now, especially with the current results from reviews and looking at the upcoming fiscal year don't you think the trend is going up? Surely they could manage 2 million plus sales with those figures?"

He stared at me like a deer in headlights and said "Oh man, do you like, you know, do this stuff?"

I'm a financial Risk Analyst, I love hearing other people tell me their analysis sometimes, this was not one of those times. Bloodborne: Gamestop Financial Analyst edition... Reminds me of Michael Pachter.

***EDIT*** I would say based on the consoles sold through and projections by EOM Bloodborne hits 3 million WW by August with lifetime sales of 4 million putting it at a 18.6% attach rate to user base by E3.

I hope you're right, but realistically I think we're looking at maximum 3 mill lifetime, unless the critical reception of BB convinces gamers to finally give this type of game a chance.

As much as I love the souls games, and GAF loves the souls games, they have never sold as well as I expected them to. With Dark Souls the marketing was there, the word of mouth was there, the quality and positive reviews were there, and it was distributed (eventually) to all platforms. The attach rate wasn't close to 18.6%. Bottom line, it still qualifies as niche. There is a limited interest for this type of game that hasn't changed for three installments.
 
Battlefield...

That is a good point. They are already dropping the price of that multiplatform title less than a week after launch. Could pose a threat to Bloodborne winning the month. FF Type 0 could also pose a problem depending on what the demand was out in the West.
 
My friends list around 9 last night had at least 30 people playing it so I'm sure it's doing very well. It's deserved too, game is amazing.
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Dark Souls II sold 1.2 million copies in three weeks, and almost 1 million copies on just PC last year. I don't think we have final figures, but even before Scholar of the First Sin launches I expect it's done well over 2 million sales; probably over 2.5 million.

If I was unclear, I was referring to sell-thru. I typically do, unless otherwise noted. Just to clear up confusion.
 
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