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Call of Duty: Black Ops III Announced - 26th April Full Reveal

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thebloo

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eighty(one) said:
Until the platform holders find a way to incentivize current gen only development, there's no way publishers are going to leave money on the table; last gen games cost the same at retail as current gen, current gen games cost more to produce.

Maybe if MS or Sony gave bigger licensing discounts or something, otherwise...

It saddens me - last gen is holding current gen back.
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Problem is, they first incentivized the devs to still put games on last gen (more lenient approval processes). They wanted to make sure those won't die while the new gen got on its feet.

But, most major players are going away from cross-gen, aren't they?
 
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Mass One

Member
UnlovedJew said:
People felt angry at Ghosts because of the incredibly low time to kill because it FELT unfair and like you didn't have a fighting chance. As long as it feels fair when you die, people won't care how well they perform in regards to a skill ceiling. AW and BO2 have much more people playing than Ghosts for a reason.
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Your right I didn't consider how TTK affect Ghost so negatively. I think that with low TTK and large, multi level (stonehaven for example) maps created a distinct frustration in games. For TDM, even going for a few seconds without signs of other players compounded with a quick, near insta death killed that game.
 
Morning Star

Morning Star

Member
DriftedPlanet said:
I want zombies. Not the high stress low payoff, high(er) complexity at the expense of fun black ops 2 stuff. I mean World at War and Black Ops goodness. Bring me the zombies and Treyarch will have my sword.
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Zombies got way too complex with Black Ops II. If I want to play zombies I go back to World at War or Black Ops.
 
shanafan

shanafan

Member
I actually really enjoyed Ghosts. I have it for all current gen systems, lol. Never understand why all the negativity. Sometimes the popular opinion on games is just really annoying.

Anyways.. so Shinobi mentions dashing. Isn't that the same as running?
 
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Kombatologist

Neo Member
Honestly, I'm growing tired of modern/futuristic warfare, and that outfit tells me it's going to be futuristic (again). HOWEVER... I'm always excited to see what Treyarch does next, as I've enjoyed their CODs more than any other dev's post COD4. And hey, it can't be any worse than Advanced Warfare, right?
 
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Goldenmoney

Member
Hell yes. Remember treyarch had an extra year of development for this game, so I would expect it to be quite a step up from past cods.
 
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WelfareBurger

Member
People dislike Ghosts but me and my friends went back to it after Advanced Warfare. The EXo stuff was just not for us.

My friends will definitely be skipping BO3 if it resembles AW's movement.
 
shanafan

shanafan

Member
WelfareBurger said:
People dislike Ghosts but me and my friends went back to it after Advanced Warfare. The EXo stuff was just not for us.

My friends will definitely be skipping BO3 if it resembles AW's movement.
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Yeah, exactly. Ghosts only came out less than two years ago. And, it wasn't overly futuristic. It still has a modern day approach, minus some of the kill streaks. Saying that COD had become too futuristic doesn't hold a lot of weight since AW has really only been the only futuristic type title.
 
Duxxy3

Duxxy3

Member
shanafan said:
I actually really enjoyed Ghosts. I have it for all current gen systems, lol. Never understand why all the negativity. Sometimes the popular opinion on games is just really annoying.

Anyways.. so Shinobi mentions dashing. Isn't that the same as running?
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I am guessing that it's the side to side dashes. Not sure about forward or backwards.
 
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Jaeger

Member
More future COD confirmed. I for one one, welcome it. We had numerous WWII, and Modern CODs. I think 2 1/2 future ones is more than fair.

SG-17 said:
I don't want it to fail, I just want it to sell less than Advanced Warfare. So the suits see that all this complicated future nonsense isn't bringing in the dollars.
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Advanced Warfare sold billions, and reviewed well.
 
River

River

Neo Member
While Treyarch has always made my favorite COD games I'm not jumping on the bandwagon just yet. Paid $100 for the AW preorder and I'm not getting burned again. I think I'm a lvl 20 in AW multiplayer, the first time I've never max prestiged a COD game. I absolutely hated the movement feel of the EXO suits, and I won't buy it if they return. Ghosts Multiplayer was way smoother with less rubber banding and lag than AW as well. Rubber banding brings up dedicated servers, this is 2015 Activision and I for one am sick of peer to peer lag kills in COD games. If it's not dedicated I'm out as well. I really hope Treyarch can restore my faith in COD but like I said I'll watch and wait.
 
Duxxy3

Duxxy3

Member
Jaeger said:
More future COD confirmed. I for one one, welcome it. We had numerous WWII, and Modern CODs. I think 2 1/2 future ones is more than fair.



Advanced Warfare sold billions, and reviewed well.
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We know it sold less than Ghosts. Which sold less than Black Ops 2.

So either the series is on a decline, or people simply did not like those games.

I enjoyed the campaign for ghosts, hated the multiplayer. I loved the campaign for AW, hated the multiplayer.
 
Neff

Neff

Member
eighty(one) said:
It saddens me - last gen is holding current gen back.
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I'd say it's the lack of a significant performance boost, lack of functionality, and the lack of killer software which is holding current gen back.

In a lot of ways, last gen is still a better deal for most.
 
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DriftedPlanet

Unconfirmed Member
Croatoan said:
I wish they would just make a nazi zombie game and put it up on XBL/PSN for like $29.99.

Would come with all the previous game's maps and weapons.
5 new maps, and new guns.
Could release DLC maps every 3 months or so.

That way I would never have to buy a Call of Duty game again.


Yes I play and love Zombie Army Trilogy but it is not the same as COD Nazi Zombies.
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Dude, I love you for this post. I wish that they would getting funding to come out with a standalone game. New zombie maps always had tons of thought and work put into them, and I'd love to have a large selection of official ones as well as maybe adding back real community mapmaking and putting in mod support. I got very attached to cod Zombies early on so I'd be psyched for what you laid out (with a good pc release too).

Getting a bit personal, but Cod zombies took the edge off of multiplayer for me. Around 2008, I was starting to get fatigued by competitive multiplayer and twonks with headsets but then a friend invited me to a lobby and introduced me to zombies. Sappy as it sounds, playing as a team against the game was a bright new world to me. I spent countless hours staving off the zombie hordes and talking with my compatriots, several of whom that I met through matchmaking and that I'm still in contact with to this day. Only a handfull of titles have made a similar impact onto how I interact, but codZ is one of the games that led to my love of co-op and horde modes.

The closest thing we have to a standalone codZ game is Killing Floor 2, on early access later in the month. To be honest I hadn't paid much attention to it because the original felt like a really rough source mod, but I watched both the totalbiscuit and PcGamer previews two days ago and I was blown away by how polished and great it seems to look and play. I was getting serious black ops zombies vibes from the snow map footage, animations, and visual work. Check it out, see if it seems i interesting to you.
Morning Star said:
Zombies got way too complex with Black Ops II. If I want to play zombies I go back to World at War or Black Ops.
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I think you're agreeing with me? I can't tell.
 
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Scoops

Banned
I want World at War 2 more but this will be good.

The thought of next gen hardware being used to show off the true carnage and massive battles of WW2 really excites me.
 
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Jaeger

Member
Duxxy3 said:
We know it sold less than Ghosts. Which sold less than Black Ops 2.

So either the series is on a decline, or people simply did not like those games.

I enjoyed the campaign for ghosts, hated the multiplayer. I loved the campaign for AW, hated the multiplayer.
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Or, maybe yearly installments are finally taking their toll on consumers? Like Creed and the like. It's time to take a break.
 
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JumPeRJumPzZ

Banned
I never got the hype for zombies. Its just a boring horde mode. And Zombies... zombies is even more stale than a futures setting.

Create something new for Coop. Or simply let me play the campaign in Coop.
 
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etta

my hard graphic balls
I got sucked into AW by the hype train regrettably. It was definitely better than the last few entries, but MW2 is still the last great COD for me. I don't know about this, I'll try to not get sucked into the hype again.
 
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Kombatologist

Neo Member
CaptainTiptop said:
Nope. Advanced Warfare is great.
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I say this as someone who played the ever-living shit out of Unreal Tournament 2004: Advanced Warfare is one of the worst CODs I've ever played. The weapons and score streaks are horrible (not to mention the BAL-27 and AK12 are still OP), and the maps are too small for how fast the game is. Furthermore, the EXO suits totally ruin the flow of most objective-based game types, such as S&D. The additional time it takes to plant/disarm a bomb in S&D (7.5 seconds opposed to 5 seconds in every other COD) makes no sense whatsoever considering how fast people can get to it now. The game is just... bleh.

I'm glad you enjoyed it though. :)
 
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Lurgan1337

Banned
damn it Activision! I wanna vietnam era back! I really loved BO for it. Not some shitty future tech some 10 year old boy dreamed of .
 
prag16

prag16

Banned
Discomurf said:
Indeed - the funny thing is it would probably sell better than the last 2 versions since the user base is larger now, not to mention there is a complete lack of anything like it coming out on the system. (not including Splatoon)
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And what's funny is that BO2 has more players now than Ghosts; many people ditched Ghosts and went back to BO2. Assuming BO3 is good, what small fanbase there is, is definitely starved for something new/good.

But have to keep these hopes filed somewhere between "slim" and "none" for now.
 
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Jaeger

Member
Kombatologist said:
I say this as someone who played the ever-living shit out of Unreal Tournament 2004: Advanced Warfare is one of the worst CODs I've ever played. The weapons and score streaks are horrible (not to mention the BAL-27 and AK12 are still OP), and the maps are too small for how fast the game is. Furthermore, the EXO suits totally ruin the flow of most objective-based game types, such as S&D. The additional time it takes to plant/disarm a bomb in S&D (7.5 seconds opposed to 5 seconds in every other COD) makes no sense whatsoever considering how fast people can get to it now. The game is just... bleh.

I'm glad you enjoyed it though. :)
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Huh? The ASM1 was the overpowered gun. BAL-27 was nerfed (still good,but is a gun being good an actual problem?). AK is balanced. The rest of your rant is opinion, yet you wrote that out as if you were laying out facts.
 
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BokehKing

Banned
End of the day, it's treyarch, they know what they are doing! What if the movement is fluid like titanfall? But the game is actually fun? I will play it all the time



Just don't bring the future stuff into zombies mode


I feel like advanced warfare kind of stepped all over the direction treyarch was going in. Sledgehammer was wrong for that.
 
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