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Rumor: Mass Effect 4 details leak through survey

I can just see it...

You found a way to travel to another galaxy on a remote, unhabited planet of the Milky Way that wasn't in the books. You get there and explore your first planet on foot... mysterious, beautiful, unlike anything you've seen in your own galaxy...when suddenly you hear noise behind a cliff, you look there carefully and... you see a base filled with Turians and Salarians!

Commander Tempest : "What the hell? What's going on? Why is there Turians and Salarians here?"
Turian captain : "Oh commander, nobody told you? This "remote and unhabited planet"(air quote similar to Turian Councilor in ME2) was know by all our top governments! There's plenty of all the Citadel races here, even Batarians and Vorchas found a way to get in this galaxy.
Commander Tempest 3 choices:
-That's great to hear
-Oh...they could have told me
-For fuck's sake!
Lol! But as long as the rainbow star child doesn't find us, we're good.

I choose the "renegade" option: slugs the messenger then shoots his gun in the sky while screaming like Charles Hestin at the end of Planet of the Apes.
 

Dilly

Banned
What strikes me as an awful choice from the start is the idea to establish a new home in Andromeda - because Andromeda is the galaxy which is on a collision course with our Milky Way. One would think that establishing a new home outside of our galaxy which is on a collision course is a way to somewhat avoid that collision. But that would probably require too much thinking effort on part of Bioware's writers.

Great idea, let's build a game around avoiding a collision that's 4 billion years away. Not to mention that the merging together of 2 galaxies isn't necessarily the end of everything.

Seems like they put in more thinking effort about it than you, really.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
I expect the single player will have a good story etc, but there'd better be plenty of sexy Asari and angry Krogans too.
I really like those alien design and they will be sorely missed (in multi-player especially), if they arent included in the new game.

Yes the amazing design of the Asari would totally be missed...
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I do like that it seems that ME4 is building on DAI's approach. I found that, even though the quests themselves had a lot of filler, they often took you to unique and interesting areas, furthering the sense of exploration which is perfect for ME. Bioware has been open about learning lots of lessons about quest design from DAI so I trust it'll be a fair step forward in that regard.
 

Carn82

Member
they could nod to the Shepard-trilogy stuff, as in, radiosignals of events during that trilogy just arrived in de Andromeda galaxy (given enough time).
 

diaspora

Member
Great idea, let's build a game around avoiding a collision that's 4 billion years away. Not to mention that the merging together of 2 galaxies isn't necessarily the end of everything.

Seems like they put in more thinking effort about it than you, really.
Lmao, iirc this was specifically mentioned in an earlier game too.
 
I don't understand.... if we're in Andromeda to find a new home for humanity, why is there a Krogan there? Why would a Krogan be in another galaxy? Why would a Krogan help a human find a home for humanity?

I don't like that new galaxy stuff, i fear that the numbers of Turians, Salarians, Asaris, etc. are going to be very limited if they want to make this story believable.
I'm guessing that the humans aren't the only ones doing this colonization thing, since there's mention of a Krogan colony ship. I get the feeling that they're going to go all "this is our best chance of surviving the Reapers" or something like that.
 

Gorey

Member
75% of this sounds great (new universe, exploration, seamless transitions, build your crew and so on). Not too thrilled for more DA:I 'fluff filler' though. Here's hoping they don't overdo that again.

Yes: drive my custom Mako over alien mountain ranges bathed in the light of binary stars. No: spend hours clicking on alien skulls to tag alien shards only to find myself in Generic Alien Resistance Mart. Bleh.

Little surprised at all the "no more space saviour' and 'oh great ancient aliens...again' comments. Seems like that's the underlying shtick. Personally I'd like to see them move back towards the 'Sid Mead futurism' of ME1 and away from the 'Oh So Gritty' of subsequent games.
 
My worst fear is that they turn Mass Effect into Star Trek. And not only is that fear coming true but they're rehashing the same ancient civilization bullshit I've seen a thousand times including in just the last trilogy.

I'll buy it regardless because its Mass Effect but I'm disappointed.
 
Not sure how I missed seeing the buggy shit after playing for 120hrs.

For me the right click to zoom in not working a quarter of the time was kind of a deal breaker. Getting in and out of cover felt janky as hell too.

In dragon age, the party AI were always acting like idiots, and everything surrounding reviving people was completely messed up. Party members being below level geometry when they die and being unable to be clicked on to be revived, being able to revive teammates, but the progress bar finishing and the teammate not actually getting revived a whole bunch of times, and members dying in the stats, but still walk around and are unable to attack or be revived.

Fun stuff.
 

jesu

Member
My sources just confirmed that there's a romanceable star cluster in the game

I'm hoping for some new sexy alien races to romance

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But I wouldn't say no to a whole star cluster or two.
 

Grisby

Member
Hrrrmmm, well, could be cool. I'm definitely giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Is it the regular Mass Effect team that's doing this or the guys that did the Omega DLC? Because that was the weakest one.
 

Taker34

Banned
My sources just told me the whole Andromeda galaxy was conquered by Cerberus. You can romance a blue, red or green Cerberus commander* in order to decide the fate of humanity.

*
the yellow one will be released as day-one DLC
 
Little surprised at all the "no more space saviour' and 'oh great ancient aliens...again' comments. Seems like that's the underlying shtick. Personally I'd like to see them move back towards the 'Sid Mead futurism' of ME1 and away from the 'Oh So Gritty' of subsequent games.
The problem with ancient aliens is that if they're the villains and are too powerful, then you need deus ex machinas to defeat them and possibly even to keep the good guys from getting curbstomped early on. That's a major issue for this story, because there's no way in hell that this colonization effort has the amount of military assets to do much of anything if a super powerful enemy appears, barring salvageable ancient alien ships floating around.
 

Carn82

Member
I'm guessing that the humans aren't the only ones doing this colonization thing, since there's mention of a Krogan colony ship. I get the feeling that they're going to go all "this is our best chance of surviving the Reapers" or something like that.

probably. if it truly is hundreds or thousands years after events in the trilogy it should show in technological evolution as well. So yeah, my guess a bunch of races sent seed/colonisation ships (or joined forces and sent one ship) as a sort of Plan B; and when they arrive that's where the player comes in. I can imagine the game starting with a cutscene in the lines 'our galaxy is in turmoil, Reaper invasion, etc etc, you are our hope for a continued existence'. They could time it at the start of ME2 and add 'Shepard is dead'.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Is it the regular Mass Effect team that's doing this or the guys that did the Omega DLC? Because that was the weakest one.

Omega DLC. BioWare Montreal.

But I'm pretty sure they were also heavily involved in Mass Effect 3's development. Not the story stuff, but the combat systems and encounter design. And maybe the multiplayer.
 
My worst fear is that they turn Mass Effect into Star Trek. And not only is that fear coming true but they're rehashing the same ancient civilization bullshit I've seen a thousand times including in just the last trilogy.

I'll buy it regardless because its Mass Effect but I'm disappointed.

Ha, that's my fondest wish! But this info doesn't really sound very Star Trekky.
 

Fezzan

Unconfirmed Member
Hrrrmmm, well, could be cool. I'm definitely giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Is it the regular Mass Effect team that's doing this or the guys that did the Omega DLC? Because that was the weakest one.

The ones who did the Omega DLC, they have donse other DLC stuff for ME which was also not that great...
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
My sources just told me the whole Andromeda galaxy was conquered by Cerberus. You can romance a blue, red or green Cerberus commander* in order to decide the fate of humanity.

*
the yellow one will be released as day-one DLC

She'll also be the most plot important character in the game
 

prag16

Banned
I don't understand.... if we're in Andromeda to find a new home for humanity, why is there a Krogan there? Why would a Krogan be in another galaxy? Why would a Krogan help a human find a home for humanity?

I don't like that new galaxy stuff, i fear that the numbers of Turians, Salarians, Asaris, etc. are going to be very limited if they want to make this story believable.

We're probably missing some information. Since you're establishing settlements/colonies, you must have a very sizable group with you on this Pathfinder expedition. Probably a fleet of ships, some of which are massive as fuck. It probably isn't just humanity in on this. We probably will have the council races plus some extras involved. In that case, why shouldn't there be a Krogan (or a lot of Krogans).
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
My worst fear is that they turn Mass Effect into Star Trek. And not only is that fear coming true but they're rehashing the same ancient civilization bullshit I've seen a thousand times including in just the last trilogy.

I'll buy it regardless because its Mass Effect but I'm disappointed.

Mass Effect has been moving away from Star Trek the TV show and towards the films since the first game.
 
So you're conclusion should be that we're both making assumptions. You in ridiculing a game's story as 'fan fiction' from one paragraph and me in defending a game that has minimal information to begin with.

Rediculing a "games story" after I told you it was based on that paragraph that features repeating words and reads like some PR person wrote it? Being sarcastic to someone to defend a game out in a year or two is what a fanboy would do, so please, just relax and be open to the possibility you may have been sarcastic to me for no reason other than what you may be thinking, not me.
 

Carn82

Member
The problem with ancient aliens is that if they're the villains and are too powerful, then you need deus ex machinas to defeat them and possibly even to keep the good guys from getting curbstomped early on. That's a major issue for this story, because there's no way in hell that this colonization effort has the amount of military assets to do much of anything if a super powerful enemy appears, barring salvageable ancient alien ships floating around.

yeah ancient somethings are a big scifi trope. But you can write around that, I know stories where the ancient somethings actually win, or are bested by even more ancient somethings. In any case, it instantly gives some storyline context for stuff like 'mysterious relics', 'unknown technology', and other actors in the story competing for that stuff. I prefer my scifi to be a bit more on the 'society/human side', like in Galactica (if you scratch away all the Cylon gods stuff)
 
Ha, that's my fondest wish! But this info doesn't really sound very Star Trekky.

They're turning Mass Effect into exploration of unknown world's instead exploration of known alien cultures. Completely different experience basically ignoring the foundation of Mass Effect.

And I know people have asked for a "explore unknown worlds" type of game I just hoped they wouldn't fall into that.
 
Deploy strike teams on dynamic and time sensitive missions? Yeah, heard that one before.

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exactly what i thought ..i can't get that part out of my head i wonder if they're going to amplify that cell phone send your party member on a mission wait for hours part to collect resources. ew.
 
I was hoping we'd see other galaxies. I just hope it's not the same type of hero and villain setup set in another galaxy to be like LOL THIS IS TOTALLY NOT SHEPHERD.
 

jesu

Member
They're turning Mass Effect into exploration of unknown world's instead exploration of known alien cultures. Completely different experience basically ignoring the foundation of Mass Effect.

I don't understand that.

What known alien cultures did we explore?
They were all made up.
 
We're probably missing some information. Since you're establishing settlements/colonies, you must have a very sizable group with you on this Pathfinder expedition. Probably a fleet of ships, some of which are massive as fuck. It probably isn't just humanity in on this. We probably will have the council races plus some extras involved. In that case, why shouldn't there be a Krogan (or a lot of Krogans).
The Krograns hump like bunnies. They would be the most "invasive species" (to borrow a plant term) to a new ecosystem.
 

RPGam3r

Member
To be fair, the war table was a good thing. Offers new lore, OP weapons/armour, and a sense of progress that DAO missed.

Agreed, the only issue I had with the table was that I couldn't interact with it without warping back and running off to a distant corner of the stronghold.
 

levyjl1988

Banned
Commander Shepard
Pathfinder

Grey Warden
Champion of Kirkwall
Inquisitor

Same type of basic moniker setup....
same basic structure as with Elder Scrolls you're always a prisoner then the world opens up.

Looking forward to this. I hope there already is a Mass Effect Remaster Trilogy.
 
Lol, I meant people are pissed this is out. (obviously)

Shit, you'd think EA would get the message on these surveys inevitably leaking info, what with the Inquisition one back in Fall 2012 forcing them to announce the game right after that leak and then you had that BF4 survey too.
 

diaspora

Member
Agreed, the only issue I had with the table was that I couldn't interact with it without warping back and running off to a distant corner of the stronghold.
Yeah, that was a pain. Ideally they'll fix this in ME since they don't communicate with pidgeons.
 

DOWN

Banned
They're turning Mass Effect into exploration of unknown world's instead exploration of known alien cultures. Completely different experience basically ignoring the foundation of Mass Effect.

And I know people have asked for a "explore unknown worlds" type of game I just hoped they wouldn't fall into that.
Uncharted worlds is a huge theme of ME1 and even one of its musical track names
 

Lakitu

st5fu
Rediculing a "games story" after I told you it was based on that paragraph that features repeating words and reads like some PR person wrote it? Being sarcastic to someone to defend a game out in a year or two is what a fanboy would do, so please, just relax and be open to the possibility you may have been sarcastic to me for no reason other than what you may be thinking, not me.

I've never seen someone take so much offence over a little sprinkling of sarcasm. You can twist what you said in whatever way you want, the bottom line is you compared the game's story to fan fiction due to one paragraph.

I'm not hot and bothered, I'm perfectly calm, even within you throwing insults around so I'm pretty much done with responding to you.
 
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