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NPD Sales Results for March 2015 [Up1: Nintendo numbers, PS4 placing]
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theprodigy
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something something stop underestimating console sales
(cue overshipments)
About the position on Amazon, supposedly they are going to receive new shipment of the base SKU this Friday.
They got a (probablty small) allocation yesterday, and this morning it showed "1 available" when I checked. Obviously it's gone now.
Funny thing is, the SKU of 1 console + Free TLOU is still available, but you have to click on a tab to get to it. I guess it's too complicated/ hidden for the average buyer?
On the (provisional) monthly April chart, the PS4 SKU is still quite a bit ahead but falling due to being sold out for the past week or so (for the main SKU):
#28: PS4
#45: XB1 MCC bundle
#54: XB1 ACU Bundle
They got a (probablty small) allocation yesterday, and this morning it showed "1 available" when I checked. Obviously it's gone now.
Funny thing is, the SKU of 1 console + Free TLOU is still available, but you have to click on a tab to get to it. I guess it's too complicated/ hidden for the average buyer?
On the (provisional) monthly April chart, the PS4 SKU is still quite a bit ahead but falling due to being sold out for the past week or so (for the main SKU):
#28: PS4
#45: XB1 MCC bundle
#54: XB1 ACU Bundle
something something stop underestimating console sales
(cue overshipments)
Well I don't think they horrendously over shipped but I don't exactly see how they didn't supply more than they needed to.
XB1 sold in 1.2m units this time last year coming out of a successful launch. It looks like it did over 1 million this quarter as well.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
About the position on Amazon, supposedly they are going to receive new shipment of the base SKU this Friday.
They got a (probablty small) allocation yesterday, and this morning it showed "1 available" when I checked. Obviously it's gone now.
Funny thing is, the SKU of 1 console + Free TLOU is still available, but you have to lick on a tab to get to it . I guess it's too complicated/ hidden for the average buyer?
On the (provisional) monthly April chart, the PS4 SKU is still quite a bit ahead but falling due to being sold out for the past week or so (for the main SKU):
#28: PS4
#45: XB1 MCC bundle
#54: XB1 ACU Bundle
lol
Your math isn't that good buddy.
2.2m+3.9m = 6.1m
10m-6.1m = 3.9m
Which means we know that outside USA/Japan we're looking at around 4 million+. Not 6 million as you said.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
I'm making it based off weekly (last week and now so far), and I also said in that post to wait till Monday for the monthly update.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Or you forgot what you posted my good friend because you said north of 10 million.
But it's cool we'll just have to wait.
So how does north of 10 million = 12 million exactly?
There is a reason I said 4 million +. The + means higher than.
MrNyarlathotep
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The averages were mine, as the numbers given in that article were a spread; I'll repost them again.
Given a spread of data is available, the narrowing range that is the result of the collapse of the mid-tier shouldn't need to be factored in when looking at historic development cost increases; the lowest budget titles and the highest budget titles all increase in cost proportionately, it doesn't actually matter that the top end budgets are double the low end budgets in any given generation.
Theodore Pewd
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I wasn''t using decimals, I usually don't use them for estimates. So NA and Japan i saw as 5.
Also btw, turs out MS did ship over 1.6 million units after all. Probably because of Halo.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
About the position on Amazon, supposedly they are going to receive new shipment of the base SKU this Friday.
They got a (probablty small) allocation yesterday, and this morning it showed "1 available" when I checked. Obviously it's gone now.
Funny thing is, the SKU of 1 console + Free TLOU is still available, but you have to click on a tab to get to it. I guess it's too complicated/ hidden for the average buyer?
On the (provisional) monthly April chart, the PS4 SKU is still quite a bit ahead but falling due to being sold out for the past week or so (for the main SKU):
#28: PS4
#45: XB1 MCC bundle
#54: XB1 ACU Bundle
Well first you have to do the tab thing for the Xbox one as well. Tha's why the Halo MCC never passed the ACU bundle until Amazon put it on the main page for a week (video game main page.)
Now, the issue with the rest of your post is last week, and I was looking through the threads, PS4 was falling but it was still ahead on Amazon, this was last week, and there were quite a few comments mentioning it. Only in the last part of the week did the PS4 actually go under both Sku's. BUT if you check last weeks amazon WEEKLY charts the PS4 is below both. This is also the point in time that Amaxon last updated the monthly chart (otherwise the Xbox One version of BF pre-orders would have charted and the PS4 version was in the bottom 90-100.
Now until Monday when the monthly charts update we won't know for sure, but a possible explanation is that the increases Xbox One is gaining (depending on SKU) is increasing More than what the PS4 has been gaining, but was only on top last week due to cumulative sales in the hourly charts.
Of course we won;t know until later.
While there's a lot of arguing over development budgets, didn't The Order have a Super Bowl commercial run? That's roughly 4 million USD (assuming it only aired once, and assuming it met the average).
That's a lot of money on a singular commercial which is in and of itself part of a much larger marketing campaign that the game enjoyed. Now that campaign likely wasn't in the triple-digits of millions of USD, but it was likely is the mid-to-high double digits if you they had the capital to throw at a Super Bowl ad. Such things would indicate, to me, a high expectation from the title from Sony's end.
That's a lot of money on a singular commercial which is in and of itself part of a much larger marketing campaign that the game enjoyed. Now that campaign likely wasn't in the triple-digits of millions of USD, but it was likely is the mid-to-high double digits if you they had the capital to throw at a Super Bowl ad. Such things would indicate, to me, a high expectation from the title from Sony's end.
This game had a larger marketing budget than the entire WiiU library combined. >.>
Sangetsu-II
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Why so much gibberish? Amazon only counts for like what? 5% of the market.
serversurfer
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How are you defining that? They're still working through stock from Christmas.
Read what you're quoting. (emphasis mine)
But again, all we really need to look at are the team sizes, and they aren't that much larger than they were last generation for comparable games. They haven't doubled their staffs, so I see no reason to double their budgets, unless everyone gets a huge raise every generation.
The Mad Draklor
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You're putting too much stock on Amazon as it only represents 5% of the US's sales. PS4 has been outselling the XBO on bigger retailers online such as Gamestop, Target, Walmart, and Best Buy for most of the month.
Scientificreason
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Ps4 sku has been sold out on amazob bro, thats the only reason x1 is ahead.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Ps4 was ahead last week, didn't bother reading the post you quoted I see.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Target and WalMart have XO ahead.
The Mad Draklor
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Theodore Pewd
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Your on the wrong page for both. WM has a console page, ill post that one later with a PC.
This is target: http://www.target.com/tdir/p/electronics/-/N-5xtg6/Nao-0/Ns-bestselling
Ingueferroque
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Surprised with Battlefield..
The Mad Draklor
Member
Really... that page looks like a total mess. Why would I trust the clearly messier URL over the one that is clearly more organized?
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Your trying way to hard with this agenda. Well just have to wait till monthly updates on amazon for chart positions(not numbers.)
The Mad Draklor
Member
Sorry, but the one with the agenda is you. That URL you provided is an utter clusterfuck of a page. I bet you were extremely surprised when I showed you that the PS4 is outselling the XBO on Target and Walmart.
Chobel
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It has Wii U selling better than XB1.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Oh yeah.... I just noticed that, too. Lol xD
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Looks like a clean page with pictures on the left to me. I'll just let you go.
Your like are wrong btw, and WalMart has a console page which ill post when I get to a PC.
Have a nice day.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Ok, and? It's the actual best sellers page for target regardless.
yeah, got no idea what kind of page that is.
The Mad Draklor
Member
As Chobel pointed out, the Wii U is outselling the XBO if we go by your page. That draws a huge red flag. Whatever page you post for Walmart will likely be the same thing.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Yesterday xone was ahead, your literally just spouting nonsense so ill just move you to the side.
I'll give you your last word.
Theodore Pewd
Banned
Shhhh....
theprodigy
Member
The Mad Draklor
Member
It looks extremely confusing and unorganized...
So you really expect us to believe the Wii U is selling better than the xbox one?
I'd say that puts serious doubt on if that page is ordered like you believe it is.
Or, alternatively, Wii U just suddenly managed to get a whole bunch of sales out of nowhere.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Well, what makes more sense? The Wii U outselling both the PS4 & XBO or the Wii U outselling the XBO, but not the PS4?
WiiU resurrection confirmed!
The Last One
Member
How can the Ps4 be out os stock in amazon for so long? What a mess.
Theodore Pewd
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Because listings don't change. Amazing the effort you put in. Oops forgot, have a nice day
Scientificreason
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Wow man you are on a mission in this and the xbox shipment thread, I think you are a little panic'd. Also quite rude to folk here.
Theodore Pewd
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The results change dude, come on. Yesterday Wii u was not ahead. All charts work like this...
There's no point to keep stock of the standalone unit.
The Mad Draklor
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Haha, yeah. I didn't notice it until you pointed it out xD From my personal observations earlier this month, the Wii U was behind the XBO from the Target link I provided. Kinda cool that it's actually ahead (for this retailer, at least).
Theodore Pewd
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Keep trolling. I'll just leave you by yourself to do that.
HORRORSHØW
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hindle, is that you???
Theodore Pewd
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But the toys r us charts don't have xo or ps4 charting, only Wii u. Clearly this means something.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Yeah... you're getting quite aggressive with your posts. It's pretty much a given that despite the PS4 being out of stock on Amazon, it is still outselling the XBO at other major retailers. I don't know why you're extremely offended by that fact.