Didn't EVO just switch to 360 like last year?!
Crap. I was going to try that as well. I'm pretty pissed off at how bad this port is. I was really looking forward to it.Just asked for a refund:
Helpful.
So Mr. Wizard is gonna switch USF4 to 360 if the problems aren't fixed soon. At least he has a Plan B ready.
did he confirmed this on twitter?
Yes, went from Sony Sponsor to Microsoft Sponsor. I always thought the bigger issue with PS3's was marvel had more stages that lagged on PS3.Didn't EVO just switch to 360 like last year?!
did he confirmed this on twitter?
Yes, went from Sony Sponsor to Microsoft Sponsor. I always thought the bigger issue with PS3's was marvel had more stages that lagged on PS3.
Crap. I was going to try that as well. I'm pretty pissed off at how bad this port is. I was really looking forward to it.
I hope this doesn't get fixed and EVO goes back to the 360 version. That would be so embarrassing with Sony backing the SF competition scene so heavily. They need to learn a lesson so that this crap never happens again.
From what I remember the main people that complained about input lag on PS3 were American/European players that didnt have access to SF4 cabs, since sf4 cabs had the same amount of input lag as the PS3. Of course since most majors were held in the US, most tournaments were on the 360. EVO was the exception until last year when MS sponsored the event. It's also why some jpn players complained about dropping combos on the 360 version of the game, because of the lag difference.
Just asked for a refund:
Helpful.
Just asked for a refund:
Helpful.
that's a little mean. dude hasn't bought it yet lol
Even if the lag by default were the case on PS3, Guilty Gear Xrd is down to USF4 360 levels of input lag on both PS3 and PS4, so it's doable.
I hope this doesn't get fixed and EVO goes back to the 360 version. That would be so embarrassing with Sony backing the SF competition scene so heavily. They need to learn a lesson so that this crap never happens again.
Yes, went from Sony Sponsor to Microsoft Sponsor. I always thought the bigger issue with PS3's was marvel had more stages that lagged on PS3.
So tempted to do a "Sony shot themself in the foot/Japanese shame-culture" post lol.
But yeah I agree, it would be a pretty bad look.
Didn't they say they "eliminated" the lag from the PS3 version, and made this the ultimate version??
have you ever played on a sf4 cab? the PS3 version was fine
Not good enough for tournaments apparently.
I thought ps3 input latency suffered an extra 2 frames on all games due an issue with the ps3 itself. So 360 was the preferred tourny system for all fighters.
ding ding ding - PS3 has always been fine but XBOX sold more units and became the "standard" for US. From a technical perspective, PS3 was the most identical.
So tempted to do a "Sony shot themself in the foot/Japanese shame-culture" post lol.
But yeah I agree, it would be a pretty bad look.
Capcom just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about FGC culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in casual land where you can become successful by being incompetent. If you screw someone over in the FGC, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is that the FGC, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase USF4 and SFV for the PS4, nor will they purchase any of Capcom's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Capcom has alienated an entire market with this move.
Capcom, publicly apologize and cancel USF4 and SFV for PS4 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Already done.. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165286653&postcount=147So tempted to do a "Sony shot themself in the foot/Japanese shame-culture" post lol.
But yeah I agree, it would be a pretty bad look.
"Ultra Street Fighter IV Is Kinda Broken on PS4"
•Kotaku
"Yep, Ultra Street Fighter IV on PS4 sure looks great"
•Destructoid
I don't know what to say..
Too late. Already had it.
Someone already did it buddy:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165286653&postcount=147
Already done.. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165286653&postcount=147
edit: beaten
well why select the PS3 version if there is another version that is just slightly better. If only to not have to listen to pro players complain about possible lag
Something like that, but the Tekken scene was mostly from the Playstation side so people were fine with that. And the game has very few just frame combos.
Yeah and this makes this issue at hand much more difficult to tackle. In the event that they can fix this, do they shoot for arcade perfect or 360? When people initially said it felt different, I'm just like we'll no shit, it's supposed to feel different. But numbers and anecdotes indicated that they missed their mark(whatever the fuck it was) by a wide margin.From what I remember the main people that complained about input lag on PS3 were American/European players that didnt have access to SF4 cabs, since sf4 cabs had the same amount of input lag as the PS3. Of course since most majors were held in the US, most tournaments were on the 360. EVO was the exception until last year when MS sponsored the event. It's also why some jpn players complained about dropping combos on the 360 version of the game, because of the lag difference.
When it comes to stuff like this, I trust the opinion of pro gamers faaaaar more than either destructoid or kotaku. The pro gamers can tell you exactly what frame certain hit boxes are present on, exactly what range a grapple works at, etc etc.
I'm sorry but their understand is on a level that Kotaku and Destructiod don't even comprehend. That's not a diss or anything, its just... trust the ones who know imo.
Do people still not understand that Sony / MS cert is not for shit like this? Cert is to make sure all regulations have been followed, and that there aren't security flaws. It's not their responsibility to check dumb shit like this.
EDIT - 10/10
Yeah and this makes this issue at hand much more difficult to tackle. In the event that they can fix this, do they shoot for arcade perfect or 360? When people initially said it felt different, I'm just like we'll no shit, it's supposed to feel different. But numbers and anecdotes indicated that they missed their mark(whatever the fuck it was) by a wide margin.
When it comes to stuff like this, I trust the opinion of pro gamers faaaaar more than either destructoid or kotaku. The pro gamers can tell you exactly what frame certain hit boxes are present on, exactly what range a grapple works at, etc etc.
I'm sorry but their understand is on a level that Kotaku and Destructiod don't even comprehend. That's not a diss or anything, its just... trust the ones who know imo.
Lol, this pleases me
Thing is, some FGC people (like Lando above) is saying it's good and others are saying it's not. I assume it depends on the stick/controller used, much like last gen.
Thing is, some FGC people (like Lando above) are saying it's good and others are saying it's not. I assume it depends on the stick/controller used, much like last gen.
Hey, there is at least a pc version which is great!
But this is really bad, hopefully they will this version.
At least you don't need a powerful pc for it and the mods are fantastic!
just to completely transparent... i only played training mode, and then 30 matches online of mostly Blanka and a few with Guile, Boxer, Dictator... I had latency issues but nothing that much different that PS3 Online.
Only new bug i saw was issues with the names of users and some wierd bug on the portrait near the HP bar where it had like a random users name "LightningBlade21" or something.
As far as actual gameplay... didnt notice anything different. Now ive seen the videos of juri and the sound glitches and stuff but i PERSONALLY didnt experience those. I wonder how wide spread those glitches are and I hope they get patched. But i dont think it has 8-10 frames of lag. I wasnt even playing on my ASUS and i was getting blanka shorts WITHOUT plinking. Im curious on what the pros are saying.
edit - Also on madcats PS4 TE
They said its 8 frames compared to 360s 5 frames. So its only a 3 frame difference.8 frames of lag would be extremely obvious, I would think. Maybe it's not an accurate measure.
The same thing it means in any context? A way of hitting buttons to increase the success rate of your links.What does plinking mean in this context?
They said its 8 frames compared to 360s 5 frames. So its only a 3 frame difference.
I'm pretty skeptical of any input lag measure at the moment. Like many said the PS3 stick driver could be causing more lag as well, while PS4 sticks may have no different in input lag compared to arcade version.8 frames of lag would be extremely obvious, I would think. Maybe it's not an accurate measure.
Im not defending it, Im just correcting you. KappaYou could tech a grab in that window!
What does plinking mean in this context?
im getting 1 frame shorts and not cheating by plinking which makes it 2 frames... essentially saying im able to get the hardest combo in so called 10 frame lag on a non asus monitor... I have never been known for my execution lol
but considering im the only one in the world saying this... i would like to get a professional players true perspective and not the angry mobs..
Im coming from 360 and dont feel any difference myself, not saying there is or isnt, just that I dont notice it.im getting 1 frame shorts and not cheating by plinking which makes it 2 frames... essentially saying im able to get the hardest combo in so called 10 frame lag on a non asus monitor... I have never been known for my execution lol
but considering im the only one in the world saying this... i would like to get a professional players true perspective and not the angry mobs..