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Nikkei: Nintendo's NX platform will use an Android OS

Armadilo

Banned
So NX is the 3DS Successor that will play traditional handheld exclusive games but be able to play mobile games and apps, would make sense and very much a Nintendo move
 

Cynn

Member
You'll have no idea what OS is under the hood. You'll simply notice more support for NX and deeper system features. This is nothing but a win for Nintendo. All the time they wasted with operating systems in the past is saved for game dev now.
 

RM8

Member
If true, that's the biggest crow I've had to eat yet. I just hope it doesn't lead to rampant piracy.
 

Ashodin

Member
Like you guys have no idea, frameworks that are optimized for android will instantly be usable on the system, instead of working with other obtuse frameworks
 
And Google and Nintendo don't really have any partnerships.

If you're thinking of the Google Maps Pokemon event, that was all with TPC, nothing to do with Nintendo.
 
Not speculation. It specifically states an inside source, and they quote the source directly in the article.
I read the article this morning, but even they claim to have an insider, I still call bullshit on this one. I'm not seeing Nintendo embracing Android just like that for NX.
 

Lazaro

Member
There was a rumour a year or two ago about Nintendo using an Android OS in a prototype Educational device. It came from a supposed Nintendo of America employee twitter account. I believe it was discussed here in GAF.

Nintendo is Android
Microsoft is Windows and Cynogen Android
Sony is iOS?
 

spekkeh

Banned
Well Google already knows where I live, where my work is, who I talk to and what I say etc., might as well finally discover my tsundere waifu preference.
 

antonz

Member
I'm not sure what to think. As an OS its not a huge deal. if this is their silver bullet to the 3rd party thing I can't see this doing anything. Though if Nintendo thinks getting tablet games and cell phone games is going to change their fortunes then I cannot help but feel they are so far out of touch that there really is no hope for them.
 

baterism

Member
Make sense. I would prefer Ninty to join Valve using Linux, but that would require them to disclose their source code (AFAIK, CCBY-SA, perhaps some one can clarify).

Does Vulkan going to work on Android?

Pirate will pirate, no need to concern them. Good service is more important. If they aim for Japan, Android make a lot of sense.
 

Foffy

Banned
There was a rumour a year or two ago about Nintendo using an Android OS in a prototype Educational device. It came from a supposed Nintendo of America employee twitter account. I believe it was discussed here in GAF.

Nintendo is Android
Microsoft is Windows and Cynogen Android
Sony is iOS?

Knowing Sony, they'd be their own thing, and be a confusing mess.
 

Regiruler

Member
What implications would this have for backwards compatibility, or lack therof?

I'm still thinking NX is the next handheld, and none of that fusion bullshit.
 
I'm not sure what to think. As an OS its not a huge deal. if this is their silver bullet to the 3rd party thing I can't see this doing anything. Though if Nintendo thinks getting tablet games and cell phone games is going to change their fortunes then I cannot help but feel they are so far out of touch that there really is no hope for them.



Exactly what I thought when I was thinking about philosophy. If this is their plan for 3rd parties, that'll just end up as a dump for shovelwares from 3rd parties. They'll just throw some of their bad (I insist on that, not all their mobile releases are bad, I'm targeting the low efforts one here) mobile titles there and call it a day.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
What does it mean exactly?

I know nothing about OS and things like that.

To the consumers, I believe it means they are using an existing OS which has been in various systems...in other words, lesser compatibility issues, lesser problems and faster for Android developers who wants to bring over their Android features/contents. Of cause, major developers can still bring over their AAA budget games they want without much trouble.

Android is pretty scalable too. That could also mean its easier to make and run the same game on both their handheld & console.

The most important stuffs are on the backend though.
 

wolfhowwl

Banned
geeez, do you have any references for these tweets your talking about?

Happy to oblige.

I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"

"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531786

Asked whether From Software and Namco ever considered a Wii U port, Miyazoe bluntly replies: “No.” When asked why, he explodes with laughter.

http://mynintendonews.com/2013/12/2...th-laughter-when-asked-about-a-wii-u-version/

From our friends at EA:

EA engineer's twitter said:
The WiiU is crap. Less powerful than an XBOX360. Poor online/store. Weird tablet. Nintendo is walking dead at this point.

On dropping the Wii U:

EA engineer's twitter said:
It is an utterly intentional decision to focus our resources on markets which actually matter ... like mobile, and Gen4.

On Nintendo's place in the industry:

EA engineer's twitter said:
Nintendo are still operating like it's 1990.They should have "done a Sega" and offered Mario/Zelda as PS4/Durango exclusives. Instead they make this awful console...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=559004
 

Vic

Please help me with my bad english
If Nintendo has knowledgable Unix engineers working on the system, piracy might be less of an issue with a proper configuration than their custom OSes that let any games run codes within the lower levels if the kernel. Their game save mechanism seems bogus since every goddamn exploit seems to originate from there.
 

JordanKZ

Member
Because Android is completely open source, its likely they would fork their own branch similar to something like Amazon did. Android has extremely powerful OpenGL frameworks and is already compatible with major game engines like Unity3D and UE4. This are basically freebies.

Nintendo have to absolutely nail their DRM otherwise this is going to cause them major piracy issues.
 
I may be horribly wrong going by posts from mods and other members here but... i get a feeling that they'll take the cheaper route once more (outdated hardware coupled with a new gimmick) but i hope that i am monstrously in the wrong.

OS != hardware. The choice to use Android has no bearing on what the device itself will actually be like.
 

Faustek

Member
There was a rumour a year or two ago about Nintendo using an Android OS in a prototype Educational device. It came from a supposed Nintendo of America employee twitter account. I believe it was discussed here in GAF.

Nintendo is Android
Microsoft is Windows and Cynogen Android
Sony is iOS?

The last part could actually have been.
Apple did apparently consider trying to buy Sony ^^
 
good good hope this leak force Iwata to say a bit more

I like the idea of an OS platform where your games can be shared on devices with different form factors

interesting how they noted Nintendo's internal reaction to Ubisoft and EA snubs, this was the worst 3rd party rejection they had in a long time. It will be fascinating to watch all of this play out
 

Chindogg

Member
Ugh it physically pains me to see this.

The lack of professionalism on EA's part still bothers me to this day.

Considering they were supposed to have an "Unprecedented Partnership" I really think something happened between EA and Nintendo to cause EA to go into a scorched earth policy with Wii U.

Not only did they not support it, but they openly mocked it, a real first for a 3rd party to do against a major publisher. They weren't even like this to the Dreamcast when they refused to support it.
 

JordanKZ

Member
I may be horribly wrong going by posts from mods and other members here but... i get a feeling that they'll take the cheaper route once more (outdated hardware coupled with a new gimmick) but i hope that i am monstrously in the wrong.

Using Android does not limit their hardware options. If anything, if provides them with far more choice.
 

Terrell

Member

So a pretty stock-standard response from 3rd-parties regarding a Nintendo console since 2000, or perhaps 1996? K.
I mean, the only difference is that the derision is more blatant.
 

catmario

Member
Although 3DS is already somewhat hacked, but Nintendo's Shield for hacking in 3DS was relatively durable than Nintendo's past portable consoles. The hack for 3DS took many hours to reach this level when it compares to past portable consoles.
As their OS programming skill going better, I think Nintendo doesn't want to make their NX's OS with easily hack-able OSes like Android. If they want to use Android, They have to remodel Android OS almost looks like non-android feeling. :p
 

pixelation

Member
OS != hardware. The choice to use Android has no bearing on what the device itself will actually be like.

I know that, i've been reading through the thread, but that's just the impression that i get (i know i have nothing to back up my "hunch", but that's honestly what i fear).
 

big_z

Member
I said in the project cars thread that NX is going to be built on ARM. After listening to the Nintendo voice chat where people wrote in with predictions I think many are going to be upset with the nx specs.
 
I wonder if it's true if Android is capable of displaying proper graphics? I mean, I don't play mobile games, but those I see from time to time can't even compare to Wii U graphics.

I can imagine that they use android for the next handheld while using a dedicated os for the home console, but both with x86 hardware since their already were reports about Nintendo using AMD CPUs next time, no?

Dude.
Please be real.
A system's capability to produce "proper" graphics does not come down to the system's OS.
It's about the system's all-around features, CPU(s), GPU(s), RAM and whatever else that dictate how good any given produced frame of any game or app will look.
 
I guess the OS is going to highly customized for Nintendo's need(considering the whole piracy thing), and used to gain more 3rd party support from many different types of developers. Although I don't expect them to allow shovel-ware or those strictly mobile-like games like what Ouya did, or at least not many of them at all. I guess I can see an issue with that. I suspect some form of quality control like what basically like what the console publishers already do.

I think Iwata said NX is not ‘simple replacement’ for the 3DS or the Wii U, so maybe some form of an updated WII U, since I am assuming it is going to be backwards compatible to the WII U and DS. Or maybe it some kinda big update for both of those systems, and not completely new hardware.
 
And cue people jumping to absurd assumptions, making wild claims, spreading general misinformation, and generally freaking out about a single claim/rumor about hardware that's probably 1.5-2.5 years from completion/release and a lack of knowledge on numerous subjects.

Oh... I'm 8 pages too late.
 

So, a bunch of clowns tried to play funny and fail. What's to do with this piece?

Man, I suspected most of GAF was not so educated technologically, but this and the announcement of Iga's game versions for WiiU and Vita makes me think most people don't know anything about computers except turn them on.
 
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