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Austrian Retailer Lists Project Morpheus for Q2 2016, 399€

I could imagine a world where this isn't out of the realm of possibility, but I don't think consumers could possibly stomach that price. I vote "nein."
 

Eggbok

Member
I just can't see Sony releasing it for that price. I imagine they will want to have a Morpheus/PS4 bundle and $800 for that is just crazy.
 

yuraya

Member
That isn't a very promising price. VR on consoles will be a very risky investment. The proprietary nature of it all plus the questionable ways corporations support products that don't sell well will put a lot of question marks in front of this stuff. I don't think many AAA devs are gonna jump aboard this vr train right away either. Probably won't be many killer apps. This stuff isn't easy to demo to the public as well. Sony is gonna have to do a good job convincing people its worth the money.
 
I just can't see Sony releasing it for that price. I imagine they will want to have a Morpheus/PS4 bundle and $800 for that is just crazy.

Doesn't really seem crazy considering the target market is likely people that already own a PS4 and the minimum entry point for the Oculus Rift will be substantially more when you add in the required PC capabilities and headset. I think the HTC Vive will probably set the realistic pricing for consumer VR headsets and if that goes out at $300, Morpheus might as well. Personally, I don't see Sony aiming this at casual gamers and anyone thinking you're going to get a headset of the quality that Sony has already demonstrated at a bargain price are kidding themselves.
 
Australian lol.

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In my defense they are pretty close to one another.
 

Crayon

Member
Nah.

a. It shouldn't cost so much to make. It's a 1080 helmet with some lit up ping pong balls on it. It has that extra box and some think there's xbone sauce in it but i don't know bout all dat.

b.The bundle with a 299 ps3 would be 699. Too much. As we know... 599.99 is perfect lol.

Fun find, tho.
 

Durante

Member
Fun fact: Gameware (that retailer) is (a) actually an independent game retailer, and has been for 25 years or so and (b) based in my city.

No idea about this listing though.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
It's going to cost more money than the Oculus.
There's no reason it should.

$200 for headset.

$250 for headset+camera+two Move controllers

That is what Sony should be aiming for if they want to see good adoption rates.

Given the post launch support console peripherals usually get (Wonderbook,Kinnect,Move),I'll pass.
Developers are actually excited about VR, unlike those technologies. Many devs are announcing VR support for their games without any manufacturer pressure at all. That should tell you all you need to know about the difference here.
 
€/$399 would be dead on arrival.

I'm expecting €/$299. $199 or $249 would be perfect, but I doubt it.

It's going to cost more money than the Oculus. I think that has to be the smart guess.
Nope. I highly, HIGHLY doubt that.
Morpheus will cost less.

There's no reason it should.

$200 for headset.

$250 for headset+camera+two Move controllers

That is what Sony should be aiming for if they want to see good adoption rates.
Totally agree.
Sony is a hardware company. They can fix some things here and there to make it cheaper.
 
Lol, so people think you pay in euros in Australia now?

Anyway, definitely placeholder although if Morpheus needs Move + cam I dont think its gonna be far from that price actually
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
It might not be so expensive in the end, but I find it funny that people want premium experiences but expect to pay under $200 for that. It could be possible if Sony has money to burn, but I don't really see it as a good business decision as long as PS4 is selling well (and at above cost).
 

mjAUT

Member
Gameware is a pretty good shop but they are highly inaccurate when it comes to preorder listings. I preordered a Fallout anthology that turned out to be based on an internet fake and they set fantasy prices on stuff like that, too. Back in the day they also had some fake Resistance listing, so this isn't the first or even the second time time they were wrong. Shop from them if you like but do not trust them with listings like this.

Austrian here, this is my experience as well.

Take this listing with a huge grain of salt.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
It might not be so expensive in the end, but I find it funny that people want premium experiences but expect to pay under $200 for that. It could be possible if Sony has money to burn, but I don't really see it as a good business decision as long as PS4 is selling well (and at above cost).
Thinking of VR as a 'premium experience' is probably not the right way to frame it.

I'd say VR and Project Morpheus is more of a new platform, or maybe a platform expansion, than a 'premium experience'. It is a whole new thing. This is not a 'peripheral' or just some 'add-on'. This is a new medium of entertainment.

I know I'm kind of just discussing semantics here a bit, but I think the distinction is important in terms of marketing the product. It is not going to be cheap, whatever the price, and they will need to get across how revolutionary this is to convince consumers.
 

Bowl0l

Member
wasn't the vita originally listed at around $300-$400 before the real pricing came in?
At Sony Malaysia website and at Sony Malaysia chain store, Vita 1K is still priced at $300. Believe. Guess who us buying those Vita? No one.
 
399 is quite reasonable, considering how phones today easily cost twice as much.


would've been better if it were 299 though. that would've been the sweet spot especially for new tech.

is that with the ps eye and move though?

Many phones also cost way less, it's different market and is more of a necessity than VR.

Not really a comparable set of products, where the phones have cheaper subsets and offer more options than this closed off accessory that will cost more than the console it's an accessory to!

Anyway, £150 is the most i'd pay for a VR headset, no way will I pay £249-300.

EDIT: Also forgot you need the PlayStation Camera for this to work as well, yeah I don't know about this to be honest, seems that you need too many accessories to make this a viable option.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
EDIT: Also forgot you need the PlayStation Camera for this to work as well, yeah I don't know about this to be honest, seems that you need too many accessories to make this a viable option.
It'll be worth it. Needing a few accessories didn't stop the Wii being popular, either.
 
It'll be worth it. Needing a few accessories didn't stop the Wii being popular, either.

For a limited time sure, but the market was different back then and the casual crowd have their phone, and Google Cardboard to get their VR novelty fix.

Considering the price of the move, console, camera and the VR itself – it's a high point of entry.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Thinking of VR as a 'premium experience' is probably not the right way to frame it.

I'd say VR and Project Morpheus is more of a new platform, or maybe a platform expansion, than a 'premium experience'. It is a whole new thing. This is not a 'peripheral' or just some 'add-on'. This is a new medium of entertainment.

I know I'm kind of just discussing semantics here a bit, but I think the distinction is important in terms of marketing the product. It is not going to be cheap, whatever the price, and they will need to get across how revolutionary this is to convince consumers.

I was thinking about how to formulate it. Your definition is better. Practically this is what I was thinking when talking about premium, not in terms of price, but in terms of novelty, revolutionary etc. These kind of things never came cheap until now (at least not in the first iteration). It's not just a "maybe I need it" accessory.
 

Cyd0nia

Banned
Some of the aspirational figures people are banding about.. £150. $200. That isn't happening.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was a coordinated leak to gauge price tolerances but it's going to be an expensive add on whatever way you shake it.

The VR wars are going to be interesting because experience tells me consumers go for a sweet spot of affordability and bang for buck. If anybody gets too gung ho on the spec and expects people to just pay up and take up in droves I think it could be an expensive misadventure for some companies.
 

shink

Member
Do people think we use Euros lol. Austrian + Euro should make people think twice at misreading Australia.
 
intentional leak so we expect that high price and later they'll announce the real cheaper price so people say "it's lower than expected" buzz.

nowadays, it seems like the way you perceive a price value is more important than the actual price. I remember when Vita price is announced and people say it's a great price, great value for what you get because the speculation of the price at that time is very expensive. but then when Nintendo lower their 3ds price, people turn on Vita now saying the price is now too expensive. not a good price etc.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
For a limited time sure, but the market was different back then and the casual crowd have their phone, and Google Cardboard to get their VR novelty fix.

Considering the price of the move, console, camera and the VR itself – it's a high point of entry.
Well this will be primarily marketed towards existing PS4 owners. I'm sure there will be PS4+Morpheus bundles, but the sticker price is sure to scare off many.

A bundle for Morpheus with the camera and Move controllers will obviously do a lot to not make it seem like you're having to buy all these different things. The Wii example wasn't about the potential of VR as a mass appeal device like the Wii, just that requiring a camera and some motion control devices did not stop its popularity. You package these things in with the device and people wont think about it much.

I was thinking about how to formulate it. Your definition is better. Practically this is what I was thinking when talking about premium, not in terms of price, but in terms of novelty, revolutionary etc. These kind of things never came cheap until now (at least not in the first iteration). It's not just a "maybe I need it" accessory.
Yea I understood what you were trying to say. Just saw an opportunity to ramble for a second!

Some of the aspirational figures people are banding about.. £150. $200. That isn't happening.
$200 isn't impossible. There's some cool tech going on, but it is not necessarily hyper advanced hardware we're talking about here.
 

Percy

Banned
Well, I've been saying it'd probably cost as much as the console, and apparently it does.

Glad I'm going to be sitting the VR fad out tbh.
 
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