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the two aren't mutually exclusive, lol
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Halo splitscreen co-op RIP 2001-2015
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the two aren't mutually exclusive, lol
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Just be thankful if anything can be played offline, without a mandatory patch.
The Forza excuse is spreading to other games.
I have always been a huge fan of local coop (I have three brothers so it was always nice to play together when we were growing up), but honestly I would rather have no local coop than some crappy version with fps problems. Seriously, just try playing halo 4 or halo 2 anniversary with 2 or more players and tell me the experience is not horrible compared to playing by yourself. Judging by how recent halo games have been (mainly reach and halo 4), splitscreen is just not worth it for the the performance cost. That said, I still hope the 2 player splitscreen for online multiplayer is good.
Also, to those saying performance and splitscreen are not mutually exclusive, I'd agree with you. But as I have said, 343 and developers for the MCC do not seem to prioritize performance when they do splitscreen. Based on this trend, I'd rather have no local coop and stable performance.
Also, to those saying performance and splitscreen are not mutually exclusive, I'd agree with you. But as I have said, 343 and developers for the MCC do not seem to prioritize performance when they do splitscreen. Based on this trend, I'd rather have no local coop and stable performance.
LegalEagleMike
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Not charging for Map DLC seems like a good idea.
That's like saying "You can have free sprinkles with your sugarless ice cream!"
Finale Fireworker
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Eight pages and people still think multiplayer co-op is gone.
Technically, no. But practically, split screen has long been a hurdle that was kept around because it was a fan favorite. But framerate, IQ, and the like have become much more desirable.
Still though, it's sad to see it go. The writing was on the wall, but it's still a blow.
Zomba13
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Oh wow. Fuuuuuuck that. Split-screen co-op, even on my friends tiny shitty screen, was loads of fun and some of the best fun in Halo. It's a staple and I think main part of the series. I get how framerate and graphics suffer in split screen and how it mostly makes no sense in the story (except 3) but it's fun and one of the last good couch co-op things.
CreateNowSleepLater
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I dont get you dude, why do you ALWAYS defend them? Obviously from this thread alone a TON of people count on split screen co-op. 343 is proving they can do nothing right, over and over and over again.
I just dont get how anyone can defend any dev when they cut features.
LegalEagleMike
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I enjoyed the Halo 5 beta so I think they are going in a good direction. Bungie was certainly not heading the right way with Reach.
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it's brilliant. if i end up enjoying the way this game plays online, that'll likely be the biggest contributor to my continued play, and it'll keep the online pool of players from dwindling in big spikes like dlc tends to cause.
CreateNowSleepLater
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A downgrade from every other Halo. But ADS guys! 343 is listening.
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The one thing?
There is precedent for sacrifices to have to be made to the overall game in order for split-screen to work. Campaign is most likely pushing the hardware to the point that a stable split-screen experience would not be possible.
The fact that multiplayer still has split-screen support speaks volumes for this theory.
This has to be a joke?
So you've played the game?
0ptimusPayne
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You said it yourself "Have split screen mode run at a lower fidelity". If thats the case, Id rather not have it at all if its sacrificing any technical fidelity with the game...I want the game to be of the highest quality that it can be on a "Next gen" console that I paid good money for, and If split screen "Lowers" any technical fidelity then get rid of it...
LegalEagleMike
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I was just trying to keep people informed, I have seen a number of people confused by the thread title.
statham
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agreed.
Shrennin
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Not saying the two are mutually exclusive, but free maps is WAY better than split-screen co-op. Free maps guarantees that the community won't be split, and more things can be done with it as a result. 343 doesn't have to assume that certain parts of the playerbase won't have access to certain parts of the content.
Halo 5 could actually turn out to be one of the best Halo games yet. Hunt the Truth is certainly a very good idea of where the story may go (and it's also the most interesting place any Halo game has gone before, or at least it's told in the most interesting way).
Split-screen co-op was probably taken out to make sure that other aspects of the gameplay doesn't have to be compromised. Maintaining 60FPS with the graphical fidelity that Halo 5 will likely have given 343's work on Halo 4 was probably a pretty hard thing to do with split-screen as well. At least online co-op doesn't require gold though, which is another great aspect to this whole news.
This is beautiful.
CreateNowSleepLater
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Or maybe like, if they were capable devs they could just get it to work. I mean if they got it to run 30fps, how would that impact you? That wouldn't use any additional resources.
I think the reasonable response is that it's sad to see a series staple go, but you can easily fathom why they went this direction. And while the situation is unfortunate, this cut only affects the campaign - local multiplayer is still a thing. It's important to not confuse the issue, because I would be that much more alarmed if local multiplayer was cut as well.
Shin-Ra
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Split-screen practically always sacrifices fidelity while playing in split-screen.
CreateNowSleepLater
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I played the beta, is going from 4 player split screen MP to 2 players not a downgrade?
This should go on the whiteboard at 343i
Outrun
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After all of the positive news of today, this is all you see 343i as doing...?
reptilescorpio
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Yeah as someone who was never into the MP of Halo games this makes me pretty sad. Really enjoyed having a friend over every now and then to play Halo/Borderlands co-op.
CreateNowSleepLater
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lol, what? Why exactly would they go this direction? I mean MCC runs so great, its hard to imagine split screen didn't just get cut because they are lost and couldn't get it to work.
alexbull_uk
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Oh man, that's disappointing. I've completed all of them at least once in local coop.
There's still going to be splitscreen MP, though, right?
There's still going to be splitscreen MP, though, right?
I'll take the free maps sprinkles over the splitscreen coop sugar.
LegalEagleMike
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That sucks. But I'm not a teenager anymore so a lot of my gaming is done online with people now. I just won't miss this feature all that much.
It does suck though.
It does suck though.
Only 2 player.
*Free DLC
*More/Better integration with Books & Video Games
*60 frames per second in Halo (5)
CrimsonEclipse
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Interesting - this doesn't affect me as I haven't did local co-op in forever but sad news since its always been a series feature.
Has 343 spoken about why this is the case or if they are looking into post support for local play? It's strange that there is split screen for MP but not for SP.
Has 343 spoken about why this is the case or if they are looking into post support for local play? It's strange that there is split screen for MP but not for SP.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I'm guessing it's so they can do more stuff on a technical level with the campaign whereas multiplayer really only matters as far as it running well, and the multiplayer in question being balanced at a competitive level. It doesn't need to have as much stuff happening that campaign has, so less things need to be sacrificed for 2 player split-screen to happen in multiplayer.
EventHorizon
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Well, well, well....And to think I was just starting to talk myself into getting an XB1. Halo is now dead to me.
CreateNowSleepLater
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*Free DLC
How many of the maps are duplicates are Forge creations?
*More/Better integration with Books & Video Games
I'd prefer I didn't need to read 5 books to know whats going on in a video game.
*60 frames per second in Halo (5)
Allegedly and at what resolution, beta was not 1080p
The answer to all of that is "we don't know"
Shin-Ra
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Who is this?
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Oh well
Sandbox MP in Halo! All I need.
Sandbox MP in Halo! All I need.
Yea, screw the fun, fan favorite parts that made the game popular. We need more pixels!
Jackbooted
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Wow, who knew there were so many couch co-op players in this day and age? I'm sure it has nothing to do with people just looking for an excuse to dump on 343...
The fact you can play it co-op online and not require a Gold subscription is a pretty nice feature though.
The fact you can play it co-op online and not require a Gold subscription is a pretty nice feature though.
CreateNowSleepLater
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My man.
Dead Man Typing
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I'm annoyed that this feature has been allowed to decay and drop off from various game series over the years. But I thought split screen in Halo was sacred.
343, I'm not okay with this.
However I did just look through my achievements and I haven't unlocked a co-op achievement on Halo 4 or the Master Chief Collection. So maybe I don't use the feature like I used to, but some of my favourite gaming memories were co-op Halo 1.
I've mentioned it before, but we've got TV screens with so many pixels that when you split it into 4, you still have more pixels than a standard def TV. Split screen should be more popular than ever with devs.
343, I'm not okay with this.
However I did just look through my achievements and I haven't unlocked a co-op achievement on Halo 4 or the Master Chief Collection. So maybe I don't use the feature like I used to, but some of my favourite gaming memories were co-op Halo 1.
I've mentioned it before, but we've got TV screens with so many pixels that when you split it into 4, you still have more pixels than a standard def TV. Split screen should be more popular than ever with devs.