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PepsimanVsJoe
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The thing is, I "get" what RED is all about.
RED entertainment is responsible for Sakurai Taisen and Agarest War, which are pretty much waifu-centric games.
But good GOD she is just obnoxious. Every time she's onscreen she's talking about wifeys. It's like if CAVE interjected into every conversation with "I can dodge this!" or "my hitbox is sooooooooo tiny".
RED entertainment is responsible for Sakurai Taisen and Agarest War, which are pretty much waifu-centric games.
But good GOD she is just obnoxious. Every time she's onscreen she's talking about wifeys. It's like if CAVE interjected into every conversation with "I can dodge this!" or "my hitbox is sooooooooo tiny".
Wait, why?
oracle plans, but histoire's didn't trigger so i guess you can't get them in the conquest ending, going for maker's now so i'll do it then
I think there's some throwaway line in a very early tutorial that robots are weak to magic, but you don't first encounter robots until way later and it isn't the main focus of the tutorial so I didn't even realise it until I saw someone else bring it up on another forum.
SerTapTap
Member
It's unfortunate, but Rebirth 1 is the only game that has the awful difficulty spikes fortunately. IIRC it's just 3-4 bosses that are like that. Plutia is pretty OP BTW (she's a $1 DLC character, all the DLC chars are pretty good). You still shouldn't need THAT much grinding if you do optional dungeons though. At least I didn't, but I know the drill pretty well. Also use life rings.
And the Plan system is NOT optional, Rebirth 1 more than any other game really seems to expect you to use it a lot, and more generally you're better off using the plan system in any of the games.
Yeah no, can't do that in the conquest ending for obvious story reasons
I love Cave talking about her hitbox/etc. But RED's only annoying because they had to cram her in to replace NISA and honestly NISA was always just blabbing about JUSTICE instead of wifies. Broccoli is also crammed in, to replace Gust...not sure why.
Also disappointed they re-voiced cave, her original VA in Mk2 was way better. More serious and deep sounding, this one's eh.
I google searched it and found it out. I feel the rest of the game won't be that difficult.
I'm not buying any of the DLC until NG+ just for a first playthrough. I've been making the dungeon plans and I did the Weaken Enemies one because they just got annoying for me. I used Life Rings for
White Heart
You say this but it's still Lauren Landa. You're probably just annoyed at the new direction/lines, which is understandable, but I really can't tell the difference.
Red is just like Plutia, awesome at first but the gimmick got old super fast, also her having a big chest always weirded me out for some reason, should've been pettanko
also how in the hell can anyone not love 5pb?
she seriously has the best design of any maker, hell of any character in the franchise
the blue hair, the black/pink clothes, the equalizer waves in her eyes that change based on her mood, the cute heart guitar pick, the awesome headphones, the adorable music note tatoo
all hail 5pb, haters can get owned
also how in the hell can anyone not love 5pb?
she seriously has the best design of any maker, hell of any character in the franchise
the blue hair, the black/pink clothes, the equalizer waves in her eyes that change based on her mood, the cute heart guitar pick, the awesome headphones, the adorable music note tatoo
all hail 5pb, haters can get owned
Word.
Although Plutia is still my favorite. Maybe just because Hanakana can throw her whole range into her with Iris Heart.
Ordered NA about 15 mins ago. Can't wait! And damn that mouse pad is crazy fan-service. I hadn't seen it until just now, lol.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
So I sat down and tried to write a review for Re;Birth 2.
But ehh...I think I sabotaged it by watching eXistenZ shortly before.
My mind is well and truly screwed right now.
Short version: I thought Nep2 was alright, although less funny than the first game. Also there were moments where I just felt really uncomfortable.
Maybe I'll give the write-up another shot in a couple days, review something else in the interim.
After a hefty break I'll start Victory. I got the PS3 version a long time ago for practically nothing, but I never tried it because I hadn't played through the previous titles.
But ehh...I think I sabotaged it by watching eXistenZ shortly before.
My mind is well and truly screwed right now.
Short version: I thought Nep2 was alright, although less funny than the first game. Also there were moments where I just felt really uncomfortable.
Maybe I'll give the write-up another shot in a couple days, review something else in the interim.
After a hefty break I'll start Victory. I got the PS3 version a long time ago for practically nothing, but I never tried it because I hadn't played through the previous titles.
Man, this pisses me off. Is there a list anywhere with all dungeons? I was so sure I had all, but since I have everything beaten in Stella's Dungeon, but the Neptral Tower and only have 6 of 7 stars, I am missing something. I got everything that is requried to get to
What lese is there to find?
Trinity March.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
This is the list from the achievement guide on Steam:
Virtua Forest
Darkness 60
Virtua Forest - Depths
Rebeat Resort
Endless Zone
Midcompany
Septent Resort
Lowee Global Expo
World Labyrinth
Gapain Field
Underverse
Severed Dimension
Iris Field
Atari Marsh
Gamindustri Graveyard
Arfoire's Factory
LAN Castle
Icicle Pathway
Infinite Corridor
Junk Box
Powerlevel Island
Panan Jungle
Lost Ruins
Hellfire Hollow
Sublie Road
Trinity Marsh
Colosseum
True Neptral Tower (This is unlocked after completing all of the other dungeons and earning all 7 shards.)
I had no idea what the Colosseum was so I looked it up.
Got this:
http://www.playstationtrophies.org/...-generation/258520-tips-stella-dungeon-3.html
Apparently the colosseum is improperly-named in the localization due to reasons.
IFI was smoking crack when they came up with this bullshit.
Fuck Stella's Dungeon. I thought I unlocked all dungeons, missed trinity marsh. There's always one trophy that's soul destroying in Neptunia.
I wasn't gonna get Re;birth 3 because I liked Victory the least in the series, but I have gotten my boyfriend into the series and he tells me we need to get it haha. I'm not gonna lie, the 12 or more free character dlc and the fact makers can 'boost' like CPU's is tempting. I don't know though.
I wasn't gonna get Re;birth 3 because I liked Victory the least in the series, but I have gotten my boyfriend into the series and he tells me we need to get it haha. I'm not gonna lie, the 12 or more free character dlc and the fact makers can 'boost' like CPU's is tempting. I don't know though.
SerTapTap
Member
Is it really better? I can't imagine a way it would be anything less than completely horrible unless it went Chocobo World style and was a totally optional, completely no effort romp. Even the clearly improved scout system in Victory 2 is annoying me.
The way rebirth 2 does the optional dungeons is fucking awful. I had to restart like 2 extra times because of all the bullshit locked behind the true ending areas and isn't available at all in conquest/holy sword path even in NG+. Plans are neat but locking whole areas behind OTHER unlockable areas which are only accessible in the true ending chapters...god damn it.
I'm surprised at all the people I'm suddenly seeing that hate Victory. I thought it was clearly the best game (game-wise) in the series and I'm not sure the series would be seeing nearly as much current success without it. Victory's combat system basically made the games worth playing.
Do people really, REALLY hate Iris Heart or what? The combat is the first decent system, the character portraits are good (it looks like they're AWFUL in 1 but they're good in Mk2 as well), the new outfits are better IMO, the HDN1 designs were too scaredy-cat to incorporate game references for the most part, though I do love those designs too. Except Vert's HDD, it's a billion times better in Victory.
At least Chirper-wise, I felt the humor in Rebirth 2 was far better. I'm sure I know the 2-3 scenes that made you feel uncomfortable though IMO they're not really worth fussing over. It kinda reminds me of Dangan Ronpa 2 where the way some people act you'd think the entire game was fanservice when it's like 4< one minute scenes in a >20 hour game
...why? The characters are $3 total and NG+ is grind hell. Buy the characters and enjoy them. Or be a skinflint and save $3 by not buying 3 complete characters, but I see no good reason to save them for playthrough 2+, NG+ is consistently my biggest complaint about these games.
What the ever loving fuck? If that's the same VA they totally fucked the direction. Go listen to her lines in Mk2, she's got this wonderful, goading, arrogant tone. She's just THERE in rebirth 2 and half of the combat lines that refer to shmups aren't even in there anymore.
I love Iris Heart funnily enough! I thought the gameplay was by far the best in the series but I've held these feelings since I first played it when it came out. My biggest gripes were:
. Dub was almost none existent. Most story scenes were soundless and I found most of the content to be boring without some form of voicing.
. The Seven Sages weren't interesting in my opinion.
Rei was and is the most interesting.
. Scouts. Nuff said. Required for true ending? Die.
. The difficulty spikes were worse than Re;birth 1, I stopped playing for months because I was sick of finally beating a boss to find the next boss almost one hit kills me every move.
Now, the gameplay was great and I love Plutia/Iris Heart, but I enjoyed every other game more.
So that's why I'm unsure if I should get Re;birth 3.
I actually bought all 3 characters and enjoyed them. Without Plutia I probably wouldn't have beaten the game this fast.
I started Re;Birth 2 last night but after finishing Re;Birth 1 for 11 hours I only played for a short time. It seems easier than the first game.
Also I just found out some of the songs in the game from Victory were composed by Nobuo Uematsu.
That's...awesome.
Well for RB3:
-The lack of dub is pretty damning, but it looks like this'll be remedied considering RB2 had just as much dub audio as Japanese audio, and the fact that the RB3 cartridges are so packed they had to add Japanese audio as free DLC
-I thought Anonydeath and Copypaste were pretty funny but definitely agree on
Rei
-Scouts are gone, it's all Remake system now to get the extra dungeons and stuff.
-Hmmm, yeah, dunno about difficulty spikes, but the gameplay's been revamped to some weird fusion of V and Mk2's systems. Could be better, could be worse.
I'd probably hold off till I hear post-release opinions if I were you though.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
For reasons beyond my understanding, posting my Re;Birth 2 review on Steam was a massive pain.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pepsimanvsjoe/recommended/351710
Maybe it had something to do with the auto http-bullshit.
Sometimes if I type something like "um...that's...not...good" it'll try to turn that line into a link for a nonexistent website.
Whatever..it's up now.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pepsimanvsjoe/recommended/351710
Maybe it had something to do with the auto http-bullshit.
Sometimes if I type something like "um...that's...not...good" it'll try to turn that line into a link for a nonexistent website.
Whatever..it's up now.
Speaking of scouts, is there any guide online that's like a "scout's for dummies"? I'm currently nearing the end of my first playthrough of V, and hated the scout system so ignored it for the most part. Knowing that you NEED it (ugh...) for the true ending (and to actually GET to the final chapters), is there a super basic guide online of what to do to use the system properly and fully utilize it, for when I do NG+? I know there's a guide that tells you the dungeons you need to explore to get the items for the true ending, but I think you unlock those dungeons THROUGH the scouts?
Also, please don't tell me they kept the system in VII...
Also, please don't tell me they kept the system in VII...
Actually, there are no chapters locked behind scouts. Only the final boss' second form. Although it also messes with your party composition and has some different event scenes.
To get the last chapters you just need to view 5 Events that are really nigh impossible to miss if you're diligent and check Planeptune all the time.
Anyway, are you in Chapter 9? You can still salvage the situation provided you haven't fought a certain someone. Quoting a guide:
Scouts in VII are way better. They just bring you money, items, or have a direct effect on a dungeon, like say, +10% to item drops or +290% to shares gained. Stuff like that.
One of those effects is tough enemies and bosses and such, so you can basically turn those at will any time(with the caveat that the scout lasts for 10 minutes at a time). And flags have been turned into an item you can use from your inventory, similar to plans you just flip them on or off.
To get the last chapters you just need to view 5 Events that are really nigh impossible to miss if you're diligent and check Planeptune all the time.
Anyway, are you in Chapter 9? You can still salvage the situation provided you haven't fought a certain someone. Quoting a guide:
So basically, just send all those idiots out till you get the dungeons in question, then go inside and view an event. 6 events in total.
Scouts in VII are way better. They just bring you money, items, or have a direct effect on a dungeon, like say, +10% to item drops or +290% to shares gained. Stuff like that.
One of those effects is tough enemies and bosses and such, so you can basically turn those at will any time(with the caveat that the scout lasts for 10 minutes at a time). And flags have been turned into an item you can use from your inventory, similar to plans you just flip them on or off.
. I thought that would be the case, RB;2 being almost fully dubbed was a happy surprise. Hopefully RB;3 is fully dubbed.
. At least we still have
Rei, hehe
. YAAAS. I love the Remake system so much.
. Yeah I am hoping that the gameplay is the best, the improvements I've read so far have been the fact makers/humans can 'transform' for better stats so they aren't useless, and there are like 12 free DLC characters. yummy content.
On another note, (it's kind of a plan unlock spoiler for Re;birth 3 I guess) -
has anyone heard the alt battle music for RB;3 you can unlock? It's possibly the best battle song in the series.
And on another, another note, did anyone ever enter IFI's competitions? I entered their first one, the Christmas competition of 2013 and won, and my heart about stopped I tell you ~
I just took a photo recently to show some friends so I'll put it up here, it was a framed graphic of Purple and Iris Heart, signed by Tsunako herself.
The people that work at IFI are some great guys and gals. I love their competitions.
p.s sorry for some pretty crappy quality photo.
I try to view every single events (especially since I have all of the DLC characters, so there's TONS of events and I view them all before I move on), so I guess that should be ok with that part. I think I'm on Ch 8 because I was last working on
fighting Yellow Heart for the second time
Think is, "all those idiots" consist of only like, 2 scouts
Pretty much just have the default. Any place in particular to send them too to unlock the dungeons, or just anywhere random? Glad to hear that scouting is fixed in VII, though, even though it is still included.
Yeah they're legit with contests. Print looks great!! I won from their first contest when they first entered Facebook and got a couple goodies^^
SerTapTap
Member
Got the English version of the anime yesterday. A bit disapointed that not only do we only get the one cheapo set, we don't get any of the great Tsunako art that all the japanese volumes have:
(it doesn't come through as well in the photo but the artwork on the jp boxes is reaaaaal nice)
Rebirth 1 is the only game with difficulty spikes, none of the other games should be very hard in general.
And yeah, music in general is pretty good in the series actually.
Oh, yeah, the lack of dubbing was extremely annoying. I really hope IFI is going to start doing full voicing for all new games starting with VII, especially since they did for the side games. I can't hate the game because of that though. And before anyone even flips their shit, chirper-only optional events don't have voicing in VII even in Japanese so that's not IFI's fault when those don't have voices.
And scouts have nothing on HDN 1's share system or Mk2's plethora of endings. Or Stella. So while they're a bit annoying, especially to do the enemy changes, I accept them as a somewhat failed experiment not something game-ruining. The game still has the best (only) postgame and least annoying ending conditions of all the Neptunia games I've played.
I don't recall difficulty spikes outside of the stupid skill/item blocking boss. That's just kind of the worst mechanic ever.
Mk2 and Reb 2 have about the same amount of dubbing so I'm not sure what to expect. In fact many lines seem to be identical though I'm unsure if they were recorded.
Wow, I guess I should enter their contests. I never bother with those things.
(it doesn't come through as well in the photo but the artwork on the jp boxes is reaaaaal nice)
Rebirth 1 is the only game with difficulty spikes, none of the other games should be very hard in general.
And yeah, music in general is pretty good in the series actually.
Oh, yeah, the lack of dubbing was extremely annoying. I really hope IFI is going to start doing full voicing for all new games starting with VII, especially since they did for the side games. I can't hate the game because of that though. And before anyone even flips their shit, chirper-only optional events don't have voicing in VII even in Japanese so that's not IFI's fault when those don't have voices.
And scouts have nothing on HDN 1's share system or Mk2's plethora of endings. Or Stella. So while they're a bit annoying, especially to do the enemy changes, I accept them as a somewhat failed experiment not something game-ruining. The game still has the best (only) postgame and least annoying ending conditions of all the Neptunia games I've played.
I don't recall difficulty spikes outside of the stupid skill/item blocking boss. That's just kind of the worst mechanic ever.
Mk2 and Reb 2 have about the same amount of dubbing so I'm not sure what to expect. In fact many lines seem to be identical though I'm unsure if they were recorded.
Wow, I guess I should enter their contests. I never bother with those things.
Huh? RB2 is way more dubbed than Mk2. It's practically 1:1 in regards to audio. Like, half the Conquest ending was completely silent in Mk2, as well as a lot of plot scenes.
Also make sure to quote some of the dumb dub jokes from the anime.
EDIT: Seems like the DLC characters for VII are gonna get some form of extra plot. That's a nice addition. Also check the comments.
EDIT2: Listen to this choice quote from an old as heck interview:
Also make sure to quote some of the dumb dub jokes from the anime.
Whyyyyy did they go with arrow to the knee damnit
EDIT: Seems like the DLC characters for VII are gonna get some form of extra plot. That's a nice addition. Also check the comments.
EDIT2: Listen to this choice quote from an old as heck interview:
I kinda feel sorry for her.
SerTapTap
Member
So I need to find some sort of "mk2" robot in Victory 2 for an important quest, anyone know where it is? Here's the quest page. I don't see it on my map, not sure if I'm just missing scouted bosses or if it comes later than I'm at.
Also, how do shares work now? I'm using Noire and Uni no less than anyone else but their shares are 0%. I'm not using anyone from Lowee if I can avoid it and theirs are on par with the other nations.
Also, what are the "stars" on the map for each area? Assuming it's to do with scouts?
Also, how do shares work now? I'm using Noire and Uni no less than anyone else but their shares are 0%. I'm not using anyone from Lowee if I can avoid it and theirs are on par with the other nations.
Also, what are the "stars" on the map for each area? Assuming it's to do with scouts?
A Huge Battleship
Member
http://www.compileheart.com/blanc/
Blanc website is now open properly, including some character art. I know a scan of these was posted before but:
Blanc website is now open properly, including some character art. I know a scan of these was posted before but:
As expected, the One True Goddess steals the show with her peerless fashion sense.
Get outta the game's title, Neptune.
Noire's text bubble is some kind of apology for sucking so badly. Source: I don't speak Japanese.
Vert in decent outfit shock. Leanbox shares see unprecedented rise as a result (1 → 2).
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=459073494
Glad that miserable pile of horseshit is done and over with.
Glad that miserable pile of horseshit is done and over with.
Even with godly equipment the final Stella Dungeon boss does +/- 100 hp a hit. Bleahhhhhhh
That's cause those plushes were only ever made for buying the anime volumes in Japan. They're the kinda super limited merch that sells for that much. NISA's is readily available and I assume lower quality or something. I still find it weird they released those AFTER losing the franchise.
Alright so, shares are not a percentage anymore. You can have full bars for every nation. They increase with quests, and with the right Scouts in a dungeon you can get some pretty massive boosts to your share gain rate.
Here's the kicker. Shares decrease for every transformation or character knocked out. They're not permanently lost or anything, but you can't just transform all willy nilly anymore and nor can you revive people nonstop with zero consequences. Sure all you lose is a sorta minor stat boost...
and a true ending condition provided others are satisfied.
For your rank up quest boss, I guess the most you can do is try and change enemies in a bunch of dungeons, and otherwise look for it in new places.
I'm assuming you're finishing up G-Dimension now? How's it like so far?
So that's where they came from. Still crazy expensive! And yeah, I'm still surprised NISA got the one plush at the tail end. Maybe it was still within their contract at the time, so they went ahead and made it. It's actually really good quality for a $30 plush! Looks a bit bigger than the exclusive one.
SerTapTap
Member
A bit standard loli on the right there, but I love her tights...tight. The one on the right, I love when the integrate "digital" stuff like that, like the circuitry on the Oracles clothes.
Wish I managed to get in on the LE Blu ray stuff earlier, I got the Neptune nendoroid (in a DVD set not blu ray for some reason but eh) but will just get the "normal" sets for the other 7. I have 1, 4, 7. I want the plushes but I'll never win this contest and won't spend $700 on 'em. I'll buy the lower-quality, high priced figures (damnit uni/gear) and expensive wall scrolls before that.
Okay, if transforming decreases shares that would explain why my most used nation has the lowest shares...ugh. That's pretty annoying since earning transformation is pretty quick and fun now, plus I've been grabbing screenshots of it. I guess I'll be more careful.
For the stars, I assume I just need to send scouts to a place until the star turns bright silver then? I've gotten a couple hidden treasures but wasn't sure what the deal was, that's good to know.
Regarding changing enemies, the + Boss thing seems to be a perma unlock and not Change Enemies, which is just a scout effect now. So do I need to spam scouts to places to unlock the bosses I guess (this is what I'm currently doing)? Is it a single unlock per area? I noticed some areas have more than one boss. I don't suppose you fought that monster and have it's map listed in your game BTW? It threw it in my bestiary and I noticed the bestiary still tells you which maps enemies are from even if you can't reach that map (bless), but it won't tell me where it's from since I haven't unlocked the boss itself I guess.
I assume I'm finishing G Dimension, but I want to finish all my quests first for the outfits. I'm glad they greatly reduced the "get item" quests in frequency, but the few I've found require an absurd amount of drops--30 drops from an enemy that seems to have much less than a 50% drop rate. The kill quests were super easy and fast, this is mean. Also, unless I'm mistaken, the drop rate idea chips were removed?! DL Only used to be a drop rate chip, I have one, but it's description is something about HP (I tried translating it with google Translate's camera translate but it's a mess.)
how worried about missables should I be, BTW? I'd like all the cosmetic items I can get, and to get the true ending if feasible but don't want to do anything too crazy since Im' going to play again when it's localized. Didn't buy the DLC either for that reason (I dream of one day having a unified cross- region store so I can buy this stuff without worry if it comes out in the US)
A Huge Battleship
Member
Million's alright, but I've never been a fan of knight-esque characters. Her associates actually the superior one for her tech stylings - hoping against hope that shes playable in some form. I dont know enough about Million Arthur to get who/what she represents.VII's website updated. Million looks pretty neat.
Not sure if I care for her friend though.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I don't actually have that much technical knowledge, I only watched my friend play through the base game without much side content. So I don't think I can really answer your questions, sorry, and I may be misinformed.
I think everything transfers on NG+, minus city upgrades and dungeon unlocks? You can choose stuff to(not) carry over, for free too. I think like in Victory, you need the True End to access a proper post-game.
Speaking of which, here's what I've gleaned of its conditions:
I think everything transfers on NG+, minus city upgrades and dungeon unlocks? You can choose stuff to(not) carry over, for free too. I think like in Victory, you need the True End to access a proper post-game.
Speaking of which, here's what I've gleaned of its conditions:
view all events in Zero and Heart Dimension. In Gold Dimension, reach level 4 Public Relations during each character's story, which will unlock an optional scene. During Neptune's story specifically, reach level 7 public relations, whilst doing all sidequests and Histoire requests, but before meeting B-sha.
SerTapTap
Member
Yeah if you really want all the cheevos frankly just pay the dollar. It's total bullshit but it'll waste more of your life than that dollar is worth. Can't believe they kept it for Rebirth 3. I don't care if it's great and amazing at this point just hearing her name is a cruel joke.
Bolded is THE BEST. Though it will be really hard to use in Japanese...but Tales system is always a bit too annoying and "keep everything" is also annoying as I'd like to just go back with all my characters and outfits (I bet I lose the characters don't I) but play again from level 1 so it's not a super breeze.
Also wait wait wait what the fuck? Am I reading that right, that in the branching stories you had to reach high level public relations BEFORE joining all up? That would have taken a ton of grinding and never buying anything else. That's really annoying though at least it's sort of simple if you know of it. Or am I wrong and I can, before I finish G Dimension, go and upgrade all my crap?
I guess I wasn't likely to get the true ending with no guides and bumbling around in a Japanese version anyway but it's annoying to already find myself locked out.