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Iwata tweets about the Digital Event reactions.
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GameGuru59
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Yup. They need decent graphics, a normal controller, and a relevant gimmick to draw people back in. Then just pray for some third party support (moneyhat certain ports if you have to). They have all the elements now- decent online, storage (maybe Iwata will get over his stupid ban on harddrives when solid-state drives start dropping in price?), and outstanding first party support. They just need to put it all together in a package that's no more the $300.
SweetDonuts
Member
I think it's cool that they tweeted such a thing, the outrage must've reached them loud and clear.
so this is literally all your fault. i have literally now gone 31 years of living without a mortal enemies list, but you just made me start one.
Buggy Loop
Member
Especially the Amiibos, oh god, i just give ~zero~ shits about that. Im frustrated that it even wasted direct's time. (not that they had anything else to fill anyway).
Sorry, I meant they put them in the Nintendo World Championships. Like have Star Fox show up as the kicker, show Blastball when it was revealed, interspeace the other announcements between the rounds, things like that.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Goddammit just make the current stuff region free. None of this bullshit anymore 
we know it's possible only reason not to are bogus business reasons.
we know it's possible only reason not to are bogus business reasons.They killed Metroid
The Animal Crossing Wii U game is a stand alone version of the Amiibo Party mode from Mario Party 10 with an AC skin.
There's more but those are the big ones.
Arkam
Member
Guessing you didnt pay attention to E32014? The reactions were positive.
The selective and/or short memory of people is amazing sometimes.
This is a terrible idea.
Last year was great and the still had Directs through the year.
I actually thought it was the best of E3. I wanted to play every game they showed, which is more than I can say for the other conferences (the only exception is maybe that Atlus game and that's because I just have no clue from the thing they showed what that game is or what you do).
DeuceGamer
Member
They were definitely at the bottom this year IMO. The only new games announced were geared towards casuals (AC Party Game, Mario Tennis Game, etc...)
TheGreatMightyPoo
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They already had all that.
I'll take the best game library(not that Nintendo's is definitely the best but the quality remains).
The new Zelda from what was briefly said about it and what was shown on the Treehouse stream looks much more truly co-op focused than the Four Swords titles. It's using game systems and design from Link Between Worlds, so it looks kind of like co-op 2D Zelda in the same way Portal 2 co-op worked compared to the single player campaign, rather than the more party game-ish semi-competitive setup of Four Swords.
There were many puzzles shown on the stream that required all players doing their parts to solve them while working in tandem. It looks like an actually really interesting co-op game.
KillerSloth
Banned
Really sad to see Nintendo struggling like this.
GameGuru59
Banned
Outstanding.
But then people wouldn't complain as much now about all these new announcments.
Last year was indeed great and this year, they tried to reiterate it but failed.
My day is made.
Dr. Buni
Member
That is fine, but I am not a big Nintendo fan. I just like games. I bought a Wii U because I expected the system to have support for a couple more years, but admittedly it was a foolish move considering the poor support the Wii got from Nintendo in its last years. So if Nintendo isn't willing to support the Wii U, I have no use for it anymore. I had tons of fun with Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon, but I doubt I will still play these games for more than a couple hours at most. And Smash 3DS is more than enough to me, in fact, I like it a bit more than Smash Wii U.
There's nothing announced for the Wii U I am dying to play. Xenoblade Chronicles X might be a good game, but that's not enough for me. So in short, I have no need for the Wii U anymore. I will still have my Wii U games linked to my NNID even after I sell it, so if the next console have BC with digital games (like the Xbox One have), I will have my games back (if it doesn't, then I will probably not buy the new system, unless it is a handheld/console hybrid).
Only reason I am not selling the Wii U asap is because I have no need for the money at the moment. And where I live, I can sell it for a good price, for sure. I will keep it for a while, maybe someone is willing to trade a PS4 for it or something (lol as if).
I don't think that would make any difference. The problems 3rd parties have with Nintendo are well known (and understandable).
I agree. But they are winning in the public eyes and gaining goodwill and selling more consoles thanks to it. Showing pipe dreams and vaporware is the best solution to win E3, as Sony proved this year.
I wont comment on Animal Crossing, since its one of the few Nintendo-franchises I dont play.
But Nintendo made fun of me! They slapped me in the face with troll games and didn't give me Metroid Dread and Zelda U! My unrealistic expectations weren't met, damn it!
I'm surprised that you've made it this far in the thread, m8.
illmatic22
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Lmao
Yeah I'm not surprised. People were shouting "Nintendo could never top Sony" last night before they even saw this. Nintendo had to fucking shatter expectations into dust for them to even "stand a chance" against this backlash.
They didn't show a second trailer for a game that was supposed to be done years ago and say "it's still coming!" Or say "hey go fund this game you want yourself" or "oh we added backwards compatibility sorry we didn't do it earlier" or offer a new fancy controller of some sort. They also didn't throw enough money at third parties for exclusive dlc.
They showed up to a games conference with some games that are coming out before next e3 but it wasn't what people who want the console for cheap or free wanted so fuck Nintendo.
I'll take miyamoto standing in a beautiful place telling me about his inspirations for star fox any day. I loved all the interviews and the games shown were fine. Not great, some were sort of letdowns, but fine. Starfox looks great, Mario Tennis looks rad, they showed lots of stuff and we already know that more games are coming out.
How? They do more than one fucking thing a year. E3 isn't shit for Nintendo. They already "lost" when websites went out of their way to not really even mention the wii u in all the console wars horse shit. So xbone/ps4 players already decided Nintendo lost.
And Nintendo said "fine we don't want to compete with you anyways" and put ryu in smash. And had the Nintendo world championships. And showed off a bunch of shit in a micro direct already.
Jesus Christ I hope all you guys really do go sell your consoles
As I said elsewhere, I believe there is an unspoken covenant between platform holder and consumer that Nintendo is fundamentally betraying here.
Sony shit the bed with PS3, on size, launch window, and price. They were behind Wii and 360 at various points in the cycle but they cut costs, refabbed cheaper models, and threw everything they had at software to rehabilitate the console. They succeeded. Nintendo did a similar thing with 3DS. Wii U? It's got a great library for sure, but to abandon the most loyal customers like this? It's a disgrace. People expect 4/5 years from a £250/$300 console at minimum, and they've every right to feel burned. This is not how you gain good will and confidence for a future console. I hate to say this - as I don't particularly subscribe to the Sony vision for the industry - but in terms of marketing future prospects, respecting the consumer, paying for their own mistakes, learning from mistakes and building confidence in a brand: Nintendo have a lot to learn from the likes of Sony.
AzureTranquility95
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DragonSworne
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Nintendo looked creatively bankrupt. Compare their titles to even indie developers and Nintendo looks defunct.
They are a slow company that can't compete with the massive road maps Sony and MS have in place. They need to be more agile if they want to succeed next gen.
They are a slow company that can't compete with the massive road maps Sony and MS have in place. They need to be more agile if they want to succeed next gen.
Dynasty8
Member
I honestly believe Nintendo is trying to get out of gaming for good.
Reggie kept mentioning in the direct about how this is about Nintendo "transitioning".
My guess is that they leave console gaming for good in the next few years and move directly to apps/mobile gaming, theme parks, and amiibo styled toys. Maybe they'll stick with handheld, but it's never been more clear that Nintendo has given up on the Wii U.
I'm a fan of their games, but Star Fox (not even that impressive really), Xenoblade X, and Zelda is really all that is left for the next 2-3 years. That, IMHO, does not justify my $300 Wii U purchase. There really is no defending them at this point.
Reggie kept mentioning in the direct about how this is about Nintendo "transitioning".
My guess is that they leave console gaming for good in the next few years and move directly to apps/mobile gaming, theme parks, and amiibo styled toys. Maybe they'll stick with handheld, but it's never been more clear that Nintendo has given up on the Wii U.
I'm a fan of their games, but Star Fox (not even that impressive really), Xenoblade X, and Zelda is really all that is left for the next 2-3 years. That, IMHO, does not justify my $300 Wii U purchase. There really is no defending them at this point.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I think I'm going to sue them, they ruined my life.
KillerSloth
Banned
Such salt and nonsense...Sony has been in gaming a long time and people trust the brand, and they showed a lot more then those 3 games, come on. Horizon and UC looked amazing, creativity with Media Molecule, No Mans Sky, new FF game, indies etc... They have every genre and niche covered.
Sylverstone14
Member
It's unrealistic to expect a decent Metroid game nearly five years after the last one? Neat.
You expected another new Mario game with Super Mario Maker coming?
Father_Brain
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I actually agree with the bolded, which is why I think NX will probably fail and will probably be Nintendo's last dedicated gaming platform; the remaining audience for a dedicated device that exists primarily to play Mario and Zelda just isn't that big.
But a go-it-alone (plus whatever indie and mobile developer support they can get) unified console/handheld platform is really the only option they have left.
_illmatic_
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Beautiful, but I thought it was spelled Yamauchi though.
Wow at people saying they "killed" Metroid
It's a spin-off you hyperbolic fools.
He said "transforming" not "transitioning"
It's a spin-off you hyperbolic fools.
He said "transforming" not "transitioning"
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Wait, you aren't squidding.
Iwata personally ruined everything how dare Nintendo not announce things five years in advance
tauroxd
Member
Too good!
i'm actually a 2,000 year old demon girl
Many hours late to watching it. All I could think of was "That's it?"
My guess is they really don't have a lot of development ready yet. They could pace themselves before but now are stretched super thin and are still trying to pace themselves to not release a bad game.
They have to keep supporting 2 systems alone (3DS, Wii U) while starting production on a new system (NX) and still have to allocate resources for mobile, QOL, and licensing they're expanding to. All of this leads to games being made on the same engines to get something out quickly.
I think had they not done Smash on Sunday and kept both Roy/Ryu hidden, kept Blastball hidden, kept Earthbound Beginnings as something for today the reaction would've been very different. But the games we're seeing, I'm glad I have my PS4 and PC right now.
My guess is they really don't have a lot of development ready yet. They could pace themselves before but now are stretched super thin and are still trying to pace themselves to not release a bad game.
They have to keep supporting 2 systems alone (3DS, Wii U) while starting production on a new system (NX) and still have to allocate resources for mobile, QOL, and licensing they're expanding to. All of this leads to games being made on the same engines to get something out quickly.
I think had they not done Smash on Sunday and kept both Roy/Ryu hidden, kept Blastball hidden, kept Earthbound Beginnings as something for today the reaction would've been very different. But the games we're seeing, I'm glad I have my PS4 and PC right now.
They failed cause they had nothing to show.
Not doing Directs throughout the year cause they have nothing to show in June isn't the fault of the format. Their focus on Wii U games is largely amiibo-based now, and they couldn't even show those games.
Sylverstone14
Member
Implying Metroid: Other M didn't kill the franchise for five years until they figured to take a small step back with this 3DS game only to get shouted back at.
So congrats, 5 more years of being dead.
Iwata's face over Cesei's in THAT scene would be good, too.