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Iwata tweets about the Digital Event reactions.
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Wii u was doing way worse than the PS3 in almost every territory. It was doing dream cast numbers, after a while it is time to move on. And by this ponit anyone who owns a nintendo system knows that year 4 will be fucking terrible, it happen to every nintendo console and it will happen again.
Yeah, no. That would be a waste of talent, having developers learn new hardware, only to release products that tell the public that Nintendo consoles aren't needed to enjoy Nintendo content. Then turn around and try to sell a new competing console with less quality games ready because you had your staff making PlayStation stuff. Talk about confusing motion with progress!
Obviously Nintendo showed this E3 that the Wii U is winding down. They need to create content for NX and court 3rd parties with considerable incentives. Not have their developers run around making Xbox games.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Nintendo knew this E3 was not going to be a Nintendo fan's wet dreams.
It's apparent now that they aren't going to pump millions of dollars into developing new projects for this system now.
New hardware is needed.
It's apparent now that they aren't going to pump millions of dollars into developing new projects for this system now.
New hardware is needed.
Exactly, that's my point. Sony's conference was much better than I expected, but most of those games won't be coming out any time soon. I think what will be funny is when a lot of those games are shown next e3, and possibly even after, you'll start seeing people complain 'worse e3 we already knew about final fantasy 2 years ago, I want something new' or something like that.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
This is huge and unexpected for me.
I thought they'd work with them again in the future possibly but not this quickly after their other Nintendo offerings.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
They arent struggling at all lol they just didnt fee like showing shit
That would be cool, but unworkable. How would Samsung et al make money selling just dedicated gaming hardware when someone else owns the ecosystem?
I think the NX is multi-device OS as well, but Nintendo is still going to have pay for the hardware to be made.
Pachter is that you?
Fox Mulder
Member
I'm happy with cheap Nintendo hardware that shines as a great secondary console you get just for their exclusives. Nintendo art styles dont really need tons of power, and the wiiu has great exclusives.
I imagine it's just still too expensive for many ps4 or xb1 owners due to the fucking gamepad.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Bless you GreatMightyPoo
I needed a good laugh
I needed a good laugh
Fenderputty
Banned
HAHAHAH wow.
Drilbit777
Member
If they can at least manage to get KH 3, FF7 Remake, and even FFXV on NX then maybe it would help give it some momentum.
AzureTranquility95
Banned
PS3 started out shit, but by around 2009 (Ironically enough after dropping PS2 BC, wtf?) it really started to pick up steam.
WiiU never got that second wind, unfortunately.
I wish that would happen so that people understand that when content is a bit lacking, all they can do is stretch out titles they already have like starfox and MM. But no, I don't see that happening.
This is because most people will see those games as hope after all these years and constantly clamor for E3 news (or gamescon or TGS, and whatever other events there are).
levyjl1988
Banned
Where's the "All aboard the disaster train". It seemed more of a confirmation conference than a true showing. Nintendo stocks gonna plummet.
Star Fox Zero is actually what it is. A 0/10.
Star Fox Zero is actually what it is. A 0/10.
There is no winning with Nintendo. I don't think I've ever seen a company so damn scrutinized over every little thing. Even when other companies screw up, no one blows up as much as when Nintendo makes a mistake that isn't as comparable. Especially from people that don't give a shit about Nintendo stuff. I really just don't understand it. The direct wasn't that good this year and I would have some recommendations on how to improve, but there are games that are coming out and seeing them on the Treehouse shows that they are shaping up very well.
That is because Sony basically begged 3rd parties to help them, and kowtowed to any desires that the 3rd parties had for them to change their system and network around. They basically did everything they could to appease EA, Ubisoft, and Activision since Western games were eating the lion's share of games and Japanese devs were still getting their feet wet in HD gaming, while Western devs knew how to program at higher resolutions forever with the PC. Nintendo is a bit too proud and protective for that and would rather ride out the storm than let 3rd parties intrude on their space.
Milly Osworth
Member
What I dont get: did they not preview this godawful digital (un)event to someone that said "this is awful, the fans will tear you apart and this will get us no (positive) media coverage."
Whyyyyyyyyy
Yyyyyyyyyy
Whyyyyyyyyy
Yyyyyyyyyy
The Playstation 3 was never in the position the Wii U is in now. It still had third party support and even at its worst was selling much better than the Wii U.
Because the alternative is releasing a system waaaaay earlier than they should. At best it'll be on par with X1 and PS4 three years into their cycle. What happens when they release their next system? Nintendo will be in an even tougher spot than they are now.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
I was in denial that Nintendo could be that out of touch... but that was just absolutely dreadful.
Not just the quality of the announcements, but the fact that they didn't know how to manage expectations and announced a bunch of stuff BEFORE the event and then managed to not top it with anything particularly good.
Most of the major titles they showed we already knew and they didn't really have any major surprises.
Not just the quality of the announcements, but the fact that they didn't know how to manage expectations and announced a bunch of stuff BEFORE the event and then managed to not top it with anything particularly good.
Most of the major titles they showed we already knew and they didn't really have any major surprises.
KillerSloth
Banned
They are big time in the home console market which is what I meant, not talking as a company. They didn't feel like it? LOL sure, they just don't have a lot to show right now. Wii u is a disaster.
Mat-triX
Member
I was just thinking that. Only Pachter would think of something so short term and damning to the Nintendo brand as a whole.
You really are a maniac, maniac-kun.
Games would need to be completely redeveloped or even developed at this point for the Wii U, near the end of it's cycle.
It's not about the new announcements or lack of them. It's about the fact that the Digital Event wasn't on par not even with the usual Nintendo Direct. There were so many Nintendo Directs better than this.
So many things went wrong:
It's like they fired everybody who directs in the past year, since last E3.
The muppets thing was great, but was put in the shadow by the rest.
So many things went wrong:
- The awkward Skylander discussion
- The long discussion about Yoshi Woolly's World
- The awkward 5 minutes long Mario singing at the end
- Lack of existing games that are coming for Wii U this year: Fatal Frame, Devil's Third
- The bad pacing of whole Event: 10 minutes developer talk, a number of 30 seconds trailers, 10 minutes developer talk, 5 minutes of nothing, 5 minutes of awkward singing
- The horrible idea of presenting the strangest of spin-offs for the 2 wanted franchises at E3
It's like they fired everybody who directs in the past year, since last E3.
The muppets thing was great, but was put in the shadow by the rest.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I have a mind of my own and it's open.
It wasn't a great showing but it wasn't blasphemous or temper-tantrum inducing.
I'd give it a B-.
I'll never jump on any exaggerated bandwagons because of feels.
Agreed, but it's not what I and, I would've assumed before today, the majority of GAF would want.
It just seems massively delusional to me for everyone to expect some sort of software push for the Wii U. If it's not dead this year, then it's dead next year. It's going to come to an early demise, there's no getting around that. Why blow your load with new Metroid, Mario Galaxy-esque and Zelda games when you can hold out five more minutes and blow the doors off with your next console's launch lineup? Sure, it sucks that we're not getting everything we want right now but it is what it is.
SuperRaddy
Member
Their event was the worst....
*massive roll eyes*
Another post judging the new Metroid game based on a single trailer? Neat.
Duxxy3
Member
It's an transition period for Nintendo. The Wii U is dead as a door nail. Has been for a long time. Nintendo NX is almost certainly coming out at the end of 2016 and they are putting everything into that... whatever it is.
I think the only other option Nintendo had was to not even show up to E3. If they had done that, confidence in the company would have evaporated. So they showed the new 3DS games they had in the pipe as well as whatever is left for the Wii U.
Learn from your mistakes and move onto E3 2016.
I think the only other option Nintendo had was to not even show up to E3. If they had done that, confidence in the company would have evaporated. So they showed the new 3DS games they had in the pipe as well as whatever is left for the Wii U.
Learn from your mistakes and move onto E3 2016.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
has there been a star dancing puppets "meanwhile at nintendo" gif yet?
I think there's too many assumptions being made about NX that change in reaction to whatever the hot topic of the moment is. For what it's worth, I have no reason to believe that the thing is going to be anything more than what they've said about it so far, namely it will be some form of console, it is not a hybrid and it has a strong sense of modularity to itself mostly in its software design. I don't see how it will all work out but that's because nothing else has been said on it to begin with.
Wii U though, is far more certain. This thing is getting phased the fuck out and sooner as opposed to later.
There was this thing called the Vita. It's a legacy system now.
Sony can be just as bad if not worse. Nintendo is throwing more behind Wii U than Sony did Vita.
Fenderputty
Banned
So any WiiU people here willing to upgrade to the NX after this console cycle?
DragonSworne
Banned
Not showing games is damming to the Nintendo brand as a whole.
"There isn't going to be a conference, your grace."
John Caboose
Member
I thought GAF was above "keep calm", nothing can salvage it, not even "please understand".
Get Wonderful101
He's actually suggested "temporary third-party" before.
Stilton Disco
Member
When two long standing, fan favourite Nintendo franchises, that have appeared on every system they've ever produced, showing up in at least trailer form, is an 'unrealistic expectation', especially over 3 years into the current generation, then something is seriously fucking wrong.