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NPD Sales Results for August 2015 [PS4 #1 HW/SW, 7M Amiibos LTD, 600K LTD Splatoon]

Listen to yourselves about Until Dawn. "It needs advertising" it's 2015, nothing needs advertising we have the internet. Face it, US don't go for these kind of games, COD will sell a shit load, Destiny will sell a shit load, Battlefront will sell a shit load. The US market has dug their heels in about which games they'll spend money on, and games like Until Dawn will make up the numbers it needs to profit in other markets.
Lol. This can't be serious right?

I mean, the comment about its viability in an American market might be right, but still. The advertising comment is pure absurdity.
 
What? No. MS never took the lead. The gap shrank, but Sony was still ahead by hundreds of thousands. Where are you getting that?
No. They sold ~600K more over Nov/Dec and reduced the gap to ~500K.

Sony has since put on ~300K of that lead again.

At full price.
that's what I was asking when I said cumulative. so if mS were to take the lead, I guess that'd mean the graph would have to zero out and go negative
 
So is PS4 exceeding all expectations at this point? I don't know how it compares to PS2 at the same point in time.The fact that a console with very few new high profile exclusives is selling this well at a higher price point than its competitors is amazing.
 

Chobel

Member
Was the combination of price and 2 games for free.

I'm sure Tomb Raider will receive a bundle with another game too (maybe Tomb Raider Definitive Edition). If Microsoft keep the price at $349 I think they should be more aggressive and include a third game, or a second game that has more appeal that Tomb Raider DE.

I think their point is "Tomb Raider" the game itself isn't going to help, MS could substitute TR2 with any other new-ish AAA game and this new bundle will have the same effect, heck bundling some games like Fallout 4 will get MS even more sales.

Personally I think MS will bundle both TR2 and Fallout 4 in the same bundle to be their big main SKU this Fall.
 

allan-bh

Member
So is PS4 exceeding all expectations at this point? I don't know how it compares to PS2 at the same point in time.The fact that a console with very few new high profile exclusives is selling this well at a higher price point than its competitors is amazing.

At USA? No

Worldwide I think we can say that it is.
 

watdaeff4

Member
Personally I think MS will bundle both TR2 and Fallout 4 in the same bundle to be their big main SKU this Fall.

That's an incredible bundle if true. I'm not for sure if it'll happen though

I'm leaning that they will have the TR bundle like AC last year that will have TR:DE and RoTR. Then maybe for a week (and Black Friday) you get a free game of your choice (or designated like FO4) in addition to that.

I think we might see a MS not completely shredding their PM this year like they did last year.
 
I think their point is "Tomb Raider" the game itself isn't going to help, MS could substitute TR2 with any other new-ish AAA game and this new bundle will have the same effect, heck bundling some games like Fallout 4 will get MS even more sales.

Personally I think MS will bundle both TR2 and Fallout 4 in the same bundle to be their big main SKU this Fall.

At the MS headquaters
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Sez

Member
I'm a big fan of Uncharted and Playstation and Elena is my waifu, but there is NO way UC4 first month is bigger than Halo 5 first month. Someone wanna do an avatar bet on this?

People who think so, 1. you don't know the states or 2. you live in a cave or 3. you are from ND. or 4. you are a junior and do not know this thread is about the USA only
 
I'm a big fan of Uncharted and Playstation and Elena is my waifu, but there is NO way UC4 first month is bigger than Halo 5 first month. Someone wanna do an avatar bet on this?

People who think so, 1. you don't know the states or 2. you live in a cave or 3. you are from ND. or 4. you are a junior and do not know this thread is about the USA only
I live in the states (but not in a cave) and I thoroughly believe that uncharted is a much bigger name than it was even 4 years ago.
 

Elandyll

Banned
I think their point is "Tomb Raider" the game itself isn't going to help, MS could substitute TR2 with any other new-ish AAA game and this new bundle will have the same effect, heck bundling some games like Fallout 4 will get MS even more sales.

Personally I think MS will bundle both TR2 and Fallout 4 in the same bundle to be their big main SKU this Fall.

Lol.

I'd bet that there will be -no- Fallout 4 bundle. It'll be like DA:I last year, mostly tv marketing and -perhaps- some DLC ahead of time even though I kinda doubt it.
It could very well be just having the marketing and the access to the Mods feature first. I honestly think that if there was going to be DLC first, they would have gloated about it at E3.

Tomb Raider is going to be the big bundle (beside Halo 5 and Forza), it just makes too much sense to pack in both TR games at $349 for the Holidays.
 
I'm a big fan of Uncharted and Playstation and Elena is my waifu, but there is NO way UC4 first month is bigger than Halo 5 first month. Someone wanna do an avatar bet on this?

People who think so, 1. you don't know the states or 2. you live in a cave or 3. you are from ND. or 4. you are a junior and do not know this thread is about the USA only

I would definitely agree during last generation... Halo has always sold like hot cakes.

The difference this generation however is 1. The PS4 is the new dominating console and 2. There are way more huge first person shooters on the market now, so Halo 5 (while I think looks amazing) may not be able to take as many sales from Black Ops/Battlefront.

Only time will tell I suppose
 

allan-bh

Member
I'm a big fan of Uncharted and Playstation and Elena is my waifu, but there is NO way UC4 first month is bigger than Halo 5 first month. Someone wanna do an avatar bet on this?

People who think so, 1. you don't know the states or 2. you live in a cave or 3. you are from ND. or 4. you are a junior and do not know this thread is about the USA only

Not just first month. Halo 5 LTD also will be way bigger than Uncharted 4.
 

Sez

Member
I live in the states (but not in a cave) and I thoroughly believe that uncharted is a much bigger name than it was even 4 years ago.

Definitely it is, let's say it increase 200% in comparison with UC3, that is still short from what previous Halo did. Halo is that big. I dont like it but I accept it.

I would definitely agree during last generation... Halo has always sold like hot cakes.

The difference this generation however is 1. The PS4 is the new dominating console and 2. There are way more huge first person shooters on the market now, so Halo 5 (while I think looks amazing) may not be able to take as many sales from Black Ops/Battlefront.

Only time will tell I suppose

UC4 > UC3 is a fact right now. Halo 5 not selling like other halos could happen too, but still, thats the main reason most of those xbone players bought that console in the first time, if it weren't for Halo and Gears future games expectations i would say the xbone would be selling under the wiiU.
 

Kill3r7

Member
All this talk about Halo 5 is silly. The only way it doesn't outsell UC4 is if it completely bombs. Mainline Halo games operate on a completely different level in the US.

Lol.

I'd bet that there will be -no- Fallout 4 bundle. It'll be like DA:I last year, mostly tv marketing and -perhaps- some DLC ahead of time even though I kinda doubt it.
It could very well be just having the marketing and the access to the Mods feature first. I honestly think that if there was going to be DLC first, they would have gloated about it at E3.

Tomb Raider is going to be the big bundle (beside Halo 5 and Forza), it just makes too much sense to pack in both TR games at $349 for the Holidays.

I wonder if MS brings out the white bundle for TR.
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Apart from Rare Replay, the most boring and predictable top 10 ever. Actually, I'm really surprised a retro game comp did so well.
 

Sez

Member
How bigger?

I don't think Halo will sell THAT much more than Uncharted 4 worldwide.

Worldwide I think UC4 will win. In the United States of America, the land of Freedom and Doublecheesebacon burgers it won't. Halo is freedom and I bet it's the main reason xbone keeps selling relatively well.
 

Ricky_R

Member
Worldwide I think UC4 will win. In the United States of America, the land of Freedom and Doublecheesebacon burgers it won't. Halo is freedom and I bet it's the main reason xbone keeps selling relatively well.

I'm talking about USA. Halo 5 will at least double Uncharted 4 sales, except if Sony give the game for free in future bundles and Microsoft didn't do the same.

Hehe yeah, figured it was NA after I put a couple more seconds of thought into it.

Halo should definitely sell decently better in the US.
 

Elios83

Member
Well if you are comparing the first half of each year to each other, the entry price droped $150, but it is still technically a $50 pricedrop as Kinect bundles still cost $100 more.

For months June-August, the entry price is only $50 lower YOY, though they did introduce a higher $400 1 TB SKU in June as well which has contributed to overall sales....

But yes, the X1 price history is rather convoluted unfortunately

He's talking about the fact the even at 350$ the only way they can keep the gap at a reasonable level with the 399$ PS4 in the US is to make continous deals with retailers, give a game for free in specific weeks and other promotions like that.
In this sense the results we're looking at are not due just to a simple 50$ difference.

Btw looking at the future September will be a big PS4 month.
October is the best chance MS has to win a month this year because of the Halo bundles.
November and December are up in the air unless Sony announces a price cut at PGW, in that case PS4 is likely to win also considering COD and Star Wars bundles and exclusive marketing.
 
You might be right with the second part, sadly, but I think saying advertising is pointless as we have internet is a little too extreme.
How about a compromise: Advertising on the internet.

What do you think having the biggest game player on Youtube play the game is? You don't seriously think he chose this game because he was curious, do you?
 

Chobel

Member
Lol.

I'd bet that there will be -no- Fallout 4 bundle. It'll be like DA:I last year, mostly tv marketing and -perhaps- some DLC ahead of time even though I kinda doubt it.
It could very well be just having the marketing and the access to the Mods feature first. I honestly think that if there was going to be DLC first, they would have gloated about it at E3.

Tomb Raider is going to be the big bundle (beside Halo 5 and Forza), it just makes too much sense to pack in both TR games at $349 for the Holidays.

Fallout 4 is way bigger deal than both DA:I and TR2 (in US), so making an XBO bundle for it makes perfect sense.
 
So is PS4 exceeding all expectations at this point? I don't know how it compares to PS2 at the same point in time.The fact that a console with very few new high profile exclusives is selling this well at a higher price point than its competitors is amazing.
Exclusives Barely matter at this point. PS4 is the de-facto console for 3rd party gaming this gem. 3rd party games like Madden, COD, MGS, ect are driving the adoption more than any exclusives could
 
So is PS4 exceeding all expectations at this point? I don't know how it compares to PS2 at the same point in time.The fact that a console with very few new high profile exclusives is selling this well at a higher price point than its competitors is amazing.

Microsoft absolutely fucked up with the Xbox One launch. They had some serious momentum coming off the 360 and threw it all away.

The PS4 is a great console and an absolute lifetime away in terms of methodology than the PS3.
 

watdaeff4

Member
He's talking about the fact the even at 350$ the only way they can keep the gap at a reasonable level with the 399$ PS4 in the US is to make continous deals with retailers, give a game for free in specific weeks and other promotions like that.
In this sense the results we're looking at are not due just to a simple 50$ difference.
I'm not disagreeing with you that the $50 is the main reason they can keep the gap close, but I think you are dismissing the fact that PS4 had deals and bundles too.

In fact, while MS got
playfully?
mocked on here for the Destiny free game "bundle" last year and the AK one this June, I saw PS4 had the exact same thing with Madden this year (at least at Gamestop, don't know about other retailers)
 

NolbertoS

Member
Has Cream posted the pies yet?? Also wow at CBOAT's prediction coming true now. Unban, CBOAT mods. He deserves to receive crow from peeps.
 

cakely

Member
7k? I thought it would be close, but that's very close.

Looks like another month where the Amazon monthly results correctly predicted the relative rankings of the monthly NPD. (But barely, wow).

PS4 barely won huh?
So is it a safe bet that Halo will carry XB1 to victory?
Preseason is over too, XB is ready to play now.

Bad news, coach, it looks like September might be another pre-season month, but in October the Xbox can get out there, fight, and then bring home that championship!
 

watdaeff4

Member
This is a NPD thread. Its supposed to be USA only.

I know it's supposed to be, but was thinking maybe WW sales talk spilled over.

I'm surprised that anyone would be that confident that UC4 will outsell Halo in the US.

Due to the differences that there will wind-up being in the install-base size by end of gen, I'm not counting it out, but the attach rate of Halo 5 is going to be significantly higher than the attach rate of UC4 in the states.
 

Javin98

Banned
Why do NPD threads eventually turn into a discussion about UC4 vs Halo 5 in sales? It's been happening every month and frankly, I find it quite annoying.

Anyway, I think Halo 5 won't launch as big as Halo 3, or even Halo 4, but it will still be bigger than UC4 in the US. WW, on the other hand, UC4 will be undoubtedly ahead.
 

watdaeff4

Member
Bad news, coach, it looks like September might be another pre-season month, but in October the Xbox can get out there, fight, and then bring home that championship!

Yep

and turn around and lose it in the first title defense the very next month.
 
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