Dick Justice
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No "we" haven't. It's almost as if there was a last gen console with free online. Hmm.
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Uncharted 4 multiplayer will have no dedicated servers
- Thread starter Summer Haze
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No "we" haven't. It's almost as if there was a last gen console with free online. Hmm.
tbh i've experience that stuff in battlefield 3/4 so i'm not sure it's exclusive to lack of dedi servers?
Lol. Destiny has the most lag in matches i ever experienced over the years. Only Trials is oke. Because its 3 vs 3 and matchmaking on connection.
Forza does as well I think.
Microsoft got away with it last gen but at least they are offering something this time. I'm not sure if there is much truth to all games run on dedicated servers for free or a very reduced fee which Respawn seemed to suggest later. It was only really talked about in that mess of an Xbox One launch.
Microsoft got away with it last gen but at least they are offering something this time. I'm not sure if there is much truth to all games run on dedicated servers for free or a very reduced fee which Respawn seemed to suggest later. It was only really talked about in that mess of an Xbox One launch.
giancarlo123x
Banned
As long as there is host migration then I'm cool. MGO fucked that up terribly.
Confidence Man
Member
Not worth playing then.
Diablohead
Member
Maybe read better and catch the underlining.
Summer Haze
Banned
Instead you'll be playing with a +140ms host in America.
Azure servers are not free and third parties are not using them, Titanfall apart.
My comment is not because Uncharted, what make you think that if a game is for PC it uses dedicated servers?
NearRivers
Member
Considering this may well be the last Uncharted game - and the multiplayer will be played by fans long after they've completed single player - I had hoped they'd spring for dedicated servers to ensure a quality experience long term.
We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed that the matchmaking works well.
We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed that the matchmaking works well.
I'm playing in Brazil. But even against local players with green bar connections i experience a medium to big lag once in a while.
You can check some videos on youtube, or even some old Kotaku articles about the lag and how it affected Iron Banner.
Battlefield 3/4 servers are very low tick from what I remember (meaning they don't update the game that many times per second). Infamously so, even. But with games like Counter-Strike, Quake or whatever standard is much higher (would have to look for exact data). Pretty surre the tickrate in p2p games is lower as well, to not tax the hosts connection too much or something like that.
EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefiel...ile_the_10hz_tick_rate_remains_net_code_will/
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Man how have I not noticed this. I can't recall anytime I thought - "Man this game is laggy!"
Was someone expecting different? The sooner you realise the paywall in consoles is a fucking joke and a scam the less dissapointed you will be. What you're paying for is a renting service for indie games, nothing more.
How can some people justify this bullshit is beyond me. And there will be million of microtransactions to boot. Ay lmao.
How can some people justify this bullshit is beyond me. And there will be million of microtransactions to boot. Ay lmao.
alreafy discussed. free for devs when buikding and testing games, not free to use for the actual release.
Kind of disappointing, I know dedicated servers don't get rid of lag completely but they do reduce it quite a bit. It ain't a deal breaker though. Also doesn't Rocket League uses dedicated servers? If smaller games like Rocket League use it I don't see why ND can't do it considering they are a bigger studio with more resources.
It's always interesting to me how this stuff works out. I mean everyone complains when the parent company shuts down the servers for a game so you would think most people wouldn't want Dedicated servers. I do somewhat understand the pros but at least the game isn't on some nebulous expectation timer.
Stallion Dan
Member
BF3/4 doesn't use proper dedicated servers, a lot of stuff dedicated servers are good for BF3/4 does client side, which is where a lot of that bullshit stems from. I think a DICE dev once said the servers are mainly use for calculating scoring and other nonsense.
Should be options for player hosted servers.
Every game that comes out on PC and consoles. COD for example on consoles has p2p and the pc version has always dedi servers. Its just that the PC crowd would riot and ignore a game when its not using dedi servers, Console gamers should do the same. Only way its gonna change.
dedicated servers dont reduce latency. that entirely depends on the location of the servers. they eliminate host advantage.
You can still shut down games that use P2P.
ubersticky
Member
Fuck yeah, being shot when you're in cover!
Summer Haze
Banned
I've experienced that sort of bullshit in tons of games, but never as bad as it is in TLoU MP.
PC gamers can usually avoid the inevitable server getting turned off, that's why, console gamers usually can't.
Stallion Dan
Member
Caayn
Member
These P2P games still rely on a matchmaking server to group folks together. The actual matches themselves will be P2P. So if the matchmaking server goes offline, the game will still be unplayable online, P2P or not.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
And all had minimal issues. Obviously they have a good P2P solution that works for them. Dedicated servers do not necessarily no issues, as MCC and Driveclub have shown. So if it is not broke...
Dick Justice
Banned
Like with MW2 when it didn't use dedicated servers?
Now show the other 16 pages.
Are you serious?
OdysseusVA
Banned
You pay the fee to unlock the multiplayer portion that is being held hostage
Yeah, that's interesting. Perhaps a fall back to P2P or the ability to rent servers but that might lead to exploiting gamers for more money by offering none or few dedicated servers, kinda like how EA wind down their support and let people set up customs.
Tricky I Shadow
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Summer Haze
Banned
Oh man, this is so frustrating. The amount of times I've ran for cover, pressed O to duck, and then been downed despite being 100% covered is insane. There's always a delay in what you see on your screen and what the enemies see, most noticeable when you view your teammates cameras when waiting to spawn in. They'll be shooting a dude and getting hit-markers...but the bullets won't even be hitting them. They'll be trailing behind. And when you get executed by a sniper rifle and the stream from the bullet is nowhere near your body. Oh, and when you see a bomb under some cover, decide to sprint and leap over the cover to set the bomb off, only for it to down you when you've cleared it and are safe on the other side. So much BS.
Obviously dedicated servers wouldn't just miraculously fix these issues, but it would be much better.
Alex Stroud
Banned
Must've accrued some budget cuts along the way if they're resorting to 900p with no dedicated servers.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Not a deal breaker for me, but disappointing nonetheless. I kind of expected more for Sony's flagship.
Well that's interesting, because the PC version of COD:AW doesn't actually use dedicated servers for most online play. The vast majority of games are actually P2P. They employ some sort of hybrid system which only reverts to dedicated servers in limited and rare instances.
Believe thats only for the consoles version.
Nope, for PC too.
People often complain about lag in the PC version. Not that lag is going to magically disappear even using dedi's mind.
Stallion Dan
Member
The problem there is client side hit detection, meaning the more a player lags the bigger benefit he has versus a guy trying to get to cover, since on his screen you won't be in cover as quick so he gets to keep shooting you.
Using dedicated servers could do the hit detection server side, meaning both players send data to the server and the server decides who was really where and if those bullets hit or not.