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[onanie]

The number of posts which concentrate on what the article says about the technical part shows how much people actually care for the technical part.

The technical message is somewhat diminished by their social commentary.

 

[Dictator93]

Oh man, I'm suddenly interested in the game now. What is wrong with me?

hahahahaha

I ask that question to myself

It's on during the segment of the campaign on the train in the second mission and the game looks so much better for it. Otherwise it's only on menus and in cutscenes. I really hate that CoD is doing this lately. Just leave the effect off entirely if you're not going to use it. It's annoying when a game gets such and immediate boost/drop in visual quality. Same about the 30fps cutscenes.

Turning off effects suddenly for no reason is also something that really does not jive with me. Tomb raider doing it (presumably for performance) is also weird... for such a "filmic" game.

Battlefront on the other hand never turns that shit off.

 

[aspiegamer]

Lol at people who are so fucking immersed in console wars that if every DF comparo isn't a full on PS4 circle jerk they start whining. DF isn't required to follow your made up strict definition of a technical comparison.

Uh, that's exactly what they do. A technical comparison. Objective! You must have missed all the times last gen where matters of even a few pixels of resolution here or there were aggressively fought over. These face-offs are supposed to be objective. They exist to be console warring fuel/filter out the membership rolls/serve as propaganda for the popcorn industry.

Subjective crap like this defeats the purpose of DF being DF. That's the issue. They do tech. 100% tech. Pretend that NPD (100% sales) added random crap like "well, it sold better on PS4 but most of our friends are on XB1 so that version should have done better and it's totally not important that is sold fewer units even though we literally exist to count units sold".

 

[Gold_Loot]

They could have just presented the facts and left it at that in their conclusion... But they didn't. There just had to be a disclaimer which isn't technical in the slightest.

Where's the comment about the fact that the PC version has free multiplayer if we are going down this road?

Problem is , that version will be dead and full of cheaters within a few months.

 

[onanie]

I think it's time to introduce a new metric for game performance - FPS or friends per online service.

 

[RoboPlato]

hahahahaha

I ask that question to myself


Turning off effects suddenly for no reason is also something that really does not jive with me. Tomb raider doing it (presumably for performance) is also weird... for such a "filmic" game.

Battlefront on the other hand never turns that shit off.

I think that especially for cutscenes it can be jarring and defeats the seamless feeling you can create when using all real time cutscenes.

 

[Kolgar]

Unlike some, I find the game prettier than Advanced Warfare; it's a real looker.

But I would like to know why split-screen multiplayer on the consoles is "windowed" with black bars on the sides of the screen. Is it to save resources? I play on Xbox and it looks bad, with lots of jagged edges and type that's too small to read.

Neither Ghosts nor AW did this. Why BO3?

 

[Freiya]

So, XOne controller is usually better than DS4?

I didn't originally think so but after playing blops 3 on ps4 I've started to think ds4 sucks. I have a chronusmax coming today so I can use xb1 lunar on ps4. Ds4 feels so much worse than the xb controller I can't even imagine people liking it more for anything other than fighting games.

 

[Rain City Gamer]

"Multiplayer is the saving grace for the game on both platforms. While resolution drops below the intended 900p on Xbox One, both consoles regularly achieve a slick 60fps experience with noticeable drops limited to explosive scenes. The PS4 version comes out ahead on the basis of providing a higher resolution, but the series' fast-paced twitch shooting still works well on Xbox One. In that respect the Sony platform has an overall advantage, but if you primarily play online, the Xbox One version is a solid choice if that's the platform where your friends are. Activision's marketing priorities have changed - and PS4 also has the advantage of getting DLC content ahead of other platforms."

lol

That sentence is so out of place in that paragraph, really forced. This is like a "Participation Trophy" and a pat on the head for Xbone owners.

Thought we had seen the last of this in these DF face-offs but I guess MS money says otherwise.

 

[btags]

That sentence is so out of place in that paragraph, really forced. This is like a "Participation Trophy" and a pat on the head for Xbone owners.

Thought we had seen the last of this in these DF face-offs but I guess MS money says otherwise.

Jesus christ calm down. It is not like they are praising it or saying it is superior or something. They are just saying it is alright on a platform and not too gimped.

 

[jaypah]

That sentence is so out of place in that paragraph, really forced. This is like a "Participation Trophy" and a pat on the head for Xbone owners.

Thought we had seen the last of this in these DF face-offs but I guess MS money says otherwise.

Not sure I follow. Posters have posted examples of them doing this last gen, was Sony paying them then? My hunch is neither paid them. But you never know!

Edit: If they have been doing this since last gen I guess the question is why is it such a problem now?

 

[Kssio_Aug]

DF basically said: PS4 version is better than XB1 version. However, since XB1 version is almost as good as PS4, we would recommend you to get the one your friends are into, if you care for MP.


Now... I'm struggling to see the issue here! Really!

 

[justsomeguy]

This thread is like a who's who of my ignore list. The odd quote from the hidden parties shows that it's doing its job properly.

Nice to know the XBox One version is "good enough" even if the

Spoiler

PC

version is better.

 

[shandy706]

That sentence is so out of place in that paragraph, really forced. This is like a "Participation Trophy" and a pat on the head for Xbone owners.

Thought we had seen the last of this in these DF face-offs but I guess MS money says otherwise.

Guess the lines about the consoles having close settings to the PC settings is a pat on console heads too?

Sony and Microsoft finally working together with that $$$!!

/s

Sounds like multilayer is alright on all builds. Locked 60 should really be what we get with Cod though. I'll pick this up cheap down the road just for all the content. A few patches may help too.

I'm starting to think games are on too quick of a turnaround for what they're trying to accomplish now. Things need longer in the oven.

 

[cgcg]

Dat XFriend feel.

Digital Fuckery.

 

[tenchir]

DF basically said: PS4 version is better than XB1 version. However, since XB1 version is almost as good as PS4, we would recommend you to get the one your friends are into, if you care for MP.


Now... I'm struggling to see the issue here! Really!

Would they say the same with Battlefront since it's only a MP game?

 

[Kolgar]

Would they say the same with Battlefront since it's only a MP game?

They ought to. I played both Star Wars games back to back last night and the Xbox version looks softer, it may have more pop-in on distant objects, but it absolutely delivers the core gameplay experience and I would recommend that every Xbox One owner should check it out.

Honestly, the fanboyism and disingenuousness on display here are spectacularly disappointing. As the owner of both a PS4 and an Xbox One, I am one of those people who appreciates that Digital Foundry offers such value-comparison opinions. In the case of BLOPS III, it reassures me that the Xbox One game delivers an experience that's acceptable enough that I can purchase that version without misgivings, and without sacrificing the things I like about playing on Xbox (ability to watch TV at the same time, controller preference, achievements).

Some people need to get some air.

 

[diamount]

They end saying positives for the worst version of the game but nothing about the pc stuff?

What actually needs to be said? The PC version will always the the better version if you have the hardware to support it, they don't need a blurb to explain that with every analysis.

 

[wachie]

Dat XFriend feel.

Digital Fuckery.

DF can't help themselves.

 

[Aceofspades]

So, XOne controller is usually better than DS4?

Preferences, really.

 

[Waaghals]

Wait, what is the issue here? That DF said that the XB1-version (while inferior) is close enough to the PS4-version that it can be recommended?

Isn't this one of the reasons why digital foundry exists? To analyze the visuals and give recommendations?

 

[chicitypsxfan]

I didn't originally think so but after playing blops 3 on ps4 I've started to think ds4 sucks. I have a chronusmax coming today so I can use xb1 lunar on ps4. Ds4 feels so much worse than the xb controller I can't even imagine people liking it more for anything other than fighting games.

I have the opposite opinion. I have both systems and I own BLOPS 3 on PS4 and I own Halo 5 in Xbox One and I get cramps after an hour or so of gaming on Xbox One. I also don't like the looseness of the sticks on the Xbox controller. The one positive about the Xbox is the triggers and the rubberized grip on Lunar controller.

 

[Aceofspades]

Last gen face offs between PS3 and 360 were really unpredictable. This gen seems like everything should end up running better on PS4.

Thats why the gap between both consoles are bigger this gen than the last.

 

[Angel_DvA]

beside the stupid friend line, the article looks pretty good, PC the best version possible, PS4 the best console one and Xbox if you have friends on it, like usual.

I know Treyarch isn't really the best technical COD team but the performance on campaign are terrible and under COD AW performance, I wish sometimes they could used more time to optimize their games a little more but they're on a short development cycle and that's a shame.

 

[diamount]

Last gen face offs between PS3 and 360 were really unpredictable. This gen seems like everything should end up running better on PS4.

Thats why the gap between both consoles are bigger this gen than the last.

Really? Because I remember it being quite one-sided for multiplat games, where the 360 was quite obviously the better version.

 

[c0de]

That sentence is so out of place in that paragraph, really forced. This is like a "Participation Trophy" and a pat on the head for Xbone owners.

Thought we had seen the last of this in these DF face-offs but I guess MS money says otherwise.

So you openly accuse them being paid and taking money for making such statements?

 

[c0de]

Really? Because I remember it being quite one-sided for multiplat games, where the 360 was quite obviously the better version.

Preferences, really ;-)

 

[DeepEnigma]

DF basically said: PS4 version is better than XB1 version. However, since XB1 version is almost as good as PS4, we would recommend you to get the one your friends are into, if you care for MP.


Now... I'm struggling to see the issue here! Really!

I think some are making the point that you already chose your console based on friends, so it has no basis since you are going to choose the game to play with your friends, regardless of performance. Like last gen with PS3 inferior ports.

My question is, who are these "friends" people have? And why do their friends always decide the system for them? Is there like a friend voting council where every generation they choose the console to buy? Or is nobody a leader of the pack?

 

[Cornbread78]

Glad to see it runs well on all consoles, but....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gHq1s6G-c

 

[etta]

Nothing really surprising here.

Funnily enough, that's the exact same list if you replace "XB1" with "PS4" and compare to the PC version

It's hilarious how many are getting bent out of shape by that one line.

Sounded like they just wanted to let Xbox only owners know that their game isn't broken or anything. Can't have that though!

.

 

[derExperte]

Dat XFriend feel.

Digital Fuckery.

Really now?

 

[samn]

"Multiplayer is the saving grace for the game on both platforms. While resolution drops below the intended 900p on Xbox One, both consoles regularly achieve a slick 60fps experience with noticeable drops limited to explosive scenes. The PS4 version comes out ahead on the basis of providing a higher resolution, but the series' fast-paced twitch shooting still works well on Xbox One. In that respect the Sony platform has an overall advantage, but if you primarily play online, the Xbox One version is a solid choice if that's the platform where your friends are. Activision's marketing priorities have changed - and PS4 also has the advantage of getting DLC content ahead of other platforms."

lol

What's wrong with this?

All it's saying is that if you need to play the XB1 version because that's what your friends play, don't feel too bad about it because it's still a decent version even if not as good as the PS4.

 

[Seven4sses]

I enjoyed the campaign overall and some of the lighting and particle effects look incredible, but the cutscenes dipping to 30FPS, hell, some instances seemed to drop to fucking 15FPS or close to it, was extremely jarring and hard on the eyes.

Pretty much my only complaint. Advanced Warfare was more polished from a technical standpoint and I was kinda hoping Treyarch would translate the same to Black Ops III. The moment I booted up the campaign and saw the in-game cutscene not rendering as smooth I realized there were gonna be compromises. It sucks because there are some really good set pieces and it's pretty jarring when there's the transition between resolutions.

How many friends are in my controller however... hmmm.

If you could play with the Wiimote, you could see the Miis inside and find out

 

[neogaffer1]

DF basically said: PS4 version is better than XB1 version. However, since XB1 version is almost as good as PS4, we would recommend you to get the one your friends are into, if you care for MP.


Now... I'm struggling to see the issue here! Really!

i've noticed some of the people making this a big deal generally tend to..."favor" playstation, if you get my drift.

 

[AgentP]

All it's saying is that if you need to play the XB1 version because that's what your friends play, don't feel too bad about it because it's still a decent version even if not as good as the PS4.

Is it DF's job to tell you how to feel? Why can't they just give the numbers and leave the editorializing out?

 

[Aceofspades]

Really? Because I remember it being quite one-sided for multiplat games, where the 360 was quite obviously the better version.

A good number of early gen games ran better on 360, as time passed and devs got to know PS3 differences mitigated and late games like GTAV ran better on PS3. Its nothing like this gen where PS4 almost guaranteed to run games better than X1.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If you could play with the Wiimote, you could see the Miis inside and find out

Touche. Totally forgot about that, lol.

 

[dark10x]

Is it DF's job to tell you how to feel? Why can't they just give the numbers and leave the editorializing out?

As long as the facts are there, what is the issue with giving opinions? I don't get it.

 

[d9b]

Is it DF's job to tell you how to feel? Why can't they just give the numbers and leave the editorializing out?

You want to take even comforting participation medal away from Xbox One players? You monster!!!

 

[Smutpeddler]

Is it DF's job to tell you how to feel? Why can't they just give the numbers and leave the editorializing out?

Because it's their style. As evidenced multiple times in this thread. When the PS3 was the weak version they did the same thing. Too many times people are offended that the world isn't patting Sony on the back for their hardware choices.

Its pretty simple people, pick the system that you like and play the solid port on either one.

 

[Intrigue]

Really? Because I remember it being quite one-sided for multiplat games, where the 360 was quite obviously the better version.

I agree it was one-sided, 360 was lead platform and ended up with the better versions on most games. The difference between the two on the other side was not nearly as big as it is this gen.

 

[dark10x]

I agree it was one-sided, 360 was lead platform and ended up with the better versions on most games. The difference between the two on the other side was not nearly as big as it is this gen.

Hmmm, I don't know about that, there were a LOT of really really bad PS3 ports. Much worse than anything we've seen this gen.

 

[omonimo]

Glad to see it runs well on all consoles, but....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gHq1s6G-c

Not seems to runs that well in the SP...

 

[Unknown One]

Hmmm, I don't know about that, there were a LOT of really really bad PS3 ports. Much worse than anything we've seen this gen.

Agreed, as a PS3 owner since launch, our ports were terrible. The discrepancies were insane. This generation does not compare at all in terms of quality ports.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

good read, kinda late on it though after 40 FO4 articles. a bit disappointing with the framerate considering how AW performed but glad to see it wasnt a placebo effect when i played the MP it felt really good.

after i finish SAO:R im gonna tackle the SP and maybe a prestige or two for the MP

 

[samn]

Is it DF's job to tell you how to feel? Why can't they just give the numbers and leave the editorializing out?

Why are you trying to put particular outlets into boxes of what they can and cannot arbitrarily do?

Gaming sites can comment on whatever they like. Don't like their advice, ignore it. Sheesh.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Really now?

yes really

glad their being called out on this

their job is to be as neutral towards both consoles, if they wish to be taken seriously

friends my ass

 

[OdysseusVA]

"Multiplayer is the saving grace for the game on both platforms. While resolution drops below the intended 900p on Xbox One, both consoles regularly achieve a slick 60fps experience with noticeable drops limited to explosive scenes. The PS4 version comes out ahead on the basis of providing a higher resolution, but the series' fast-paced twitch shooting still works well on Xbox One. In that respect the Sony platform has an overall advantage, but if you primarily play online, the Xbox One version is a solid choice if that's the platform where your friends are. Activision's marketing priorities have changed - and PS4 also has the advantage of getting DLC content ahead of other platforms."

lol

Wow
I thought DF had moved passed this BS lol

As long as the facts are there, what is the issue with giving opinions? I don't get it.

Because these articles are an analysis and not opinion pieces?

 

[Guess Who]

Article says Xbone owners should still have fun with the game instead of feeling shame and despair at their inferior choice of console, article is bias

 

[Pathfinder]

I'm fascinated that this issue keeps coming up every time DF releases Face-Off results that clearly put PS4's version ahead of Xbox One's version. Everything is fine and dandy until DF offhandedly mentions that the Xbox One version is perfectly fine to play if that is the console you and your friends have.

And then some people just start losing their minds.