Isn't it all about where you place the cameras/lighthouses? You get less occlusion with the lighthouses because you have two by default, and you place them at opposite corners of a bounding rectangle. With the standard OR you have a single camera pointing at you. With oculus touch they mention adding a second camera for improved tracking. If you had long enough USB cables to place them at opposite corners like the Vive lighthouses, shouldn't you get similar occlusion resistance?
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Isn't it all about where you place the cameras/lighthouses? You get less occlusion with the lighthouses because you have two by default, and you place them at opposite corners of a bounding rectangle. With the standard OR you have a single camera pointing at you. With oculus touch they mention adding a second camera for improved tracking. If you had long enough USB cables to place them at opposite corners like the Vive lighthouses, shouldn't you get similar occlusion resistance?
Here's a potentially accurate chart of when you might expect your rift to ship (from /r/oculus):
It's been put together by a sampling of about 700 orders so far.
My order went through at 8:05am and I'm a 25X order. Apparently doesn't guarantee me in that first March 28 batch, but I guess I'll live with 93% for now lol.
Any indication from Palmer or oculus on whether us free bastards are going to ship early?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Gross. You would really put a Best Buy public demo unit on your face? That's just asking for pink eye or something more nefarious.
Not early but I think you are all confirmed for first batch March 28th shipments.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
One consistent point I've heard repeated from tech outlets who have tried the CV1 is that after 30 seconds you don't think about the resolution or screen door whatsoever. That is certainly not the case with DK2, where you're basically constantly aware of it.
The Elite
BOSS
It's not indicative of VR being a success, not by any means, but it's a good start.
Word of mouth over the next few months from owners will be important as will dropping prices for hardware in the next couple of years.
Really hope it takes off and gets cheaper.
Not charging until time of shipment plays a bit if a factor there where you can reserve your spot at no cost if you decide to back out.
Here's a potentially accurate chart of when you might expect your rift to ship (from /r/oculus):
It's been put together by a sampling of about 700 orders so far.
My order went through at 8:05am and I'm a 25X order. Apparently doesn't guarantee me in that first March 28 batch, but I guess I'll live with 93% for now lol.
31X here. I am hoping after they sort through all of the bots/scripts and cancel those, I have a shot at March. Either way, there's not much of a difference between March 28th and April anyway.
Glad to see unanimous praise for the SDE improvements. Was my biggest pet peeve with first gen VR.
It just seems in stark contrast to all the doom and gloom talks. Basically it's selling the way enthusiasts always expected, which isn't a success for VR per se, but certainly a successful launch for a first to market product. This is of course assuming people don't start cancelling preorders like crazy come March. Only time will tell
Sure. But that's a hypothetical issue. Rarely have I seen hardware product preorders get cancelled in droves. Something really drastic needs to happen between now and March for that. Worst case scenario would be a ton of it going up on ebay and the likes. There will be some correction once they identify all the bot purchases, but I don't expect that to be a significant percentage.
It just seems in stark contrast to all the doom and gloom talks. Basically it's selling the way enthusiasts always expected, which isn't a success for VR per se, but certainly a successful launch for a first to market product. This is of course assuming people don't start cancelling preorders like crazy come March. Only time will tell
Sure. But that's a hypothetical issue. Rarely have I seen hardware product preorders get cancelled in droves. Something really drastic needs to happen between now and March for that. Worst case scenario would be a ton of it going up on ebay and the likes. There will be some correction once they identify all the bot purchases, but I don't expect that to be a significant percentage.
Trojita
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Better than the TX-P60ZT65B? That's a tall order.
The Elite
BOSS
The DOA talk is people talking out of their ass, that's it.
It's too soon to tell one way or another.
I'm sure we will see a lot of cancellations though simply because it's a lot of cash to spend.
Teknopathetic
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"It just seems in stark contrast to all the doom and gloom talks. Basically it's selling the way enthusiasts always expected, which isn't a success for VR per se, but certainly a successful launch for a first to market product. This is of course assuming people don't start cancelling preorders like crazy come March. Only time will tell"
If we're getting to almost 2 million preorders (unless my reading comprehension is embarrassingly bad) in less than 48 hours, I'd argue it's selling much, much faster than even the most optimistic enthusiasts would've predicted. Especially after the price reveal.
If we're getting to almost 2 million preorders (unless my reading comprehension is embarrassingly bad) in less than 48 hours, I'd argue it's selling much, much faster than even the most optimistic enthusiasts would've predicted. Especially after the price reveal.
Turin Turambar
Member
I think the xxxx part of the number is random so we can't be totally sure of the numbers. In any case, if they have booked the initial stock they built up and the following 3 months, it means is selling very well.
You have got to realise that impressions from r/oculus are likely to be kind of biased, right?
I mean, surely this isn't your first experience with hotly anticipated products.
It sounds fantastic, obviously. But it's wise to take it with at least a tiny grain of salt.
Azure Dream
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I think they stopped officially selling DK2s months ago, anyway.
Teknopathetic
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"I think the xxxx part of the number is random so we can't be totally sure of the numbers. In any case, if they have booked the initial stock they built up and the following 3 months, it means is selling very well."
Yeah, that's the main reason I said If, because I wasn't aware of how the order numbers actually worked, though there does seem to be some correlation between how early you ordered and what your order number is.
Yeah, that's the main reason I said If, because I wasn't aware of how the order numbers actually worked, though there does seem to be some correlation between how early you ordered and what your order number is.
Yeah I highly doubt it's 2 million. That would be ridiculously insane, if true. There must be some randomization/seeding going on there instead of a straight sequence.
cheezcake
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I believe I read somewhere that in the xx xxxxx order number format the first two x's likely denote a production run, with the subsequent x's being an identifier in the production run. Which I assume is 5 digits for future scalability rather than that they're actually producing up to 100,000 units in a single run.
I know of other places that use very similar systems so makes the most sense to me.
Kagoshima_Luke
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I look forward to trying out VR in 2020, when it'll be at a consumer friendly price point.
Turin Turambar
Member
r/oculus is kind of official VR reddit site (or at least it's several times bigger than the rest), they also post impressions of Vive or news about other VR stuff or whatever.
Trojita
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https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3zw8ta/ces_cv1_impressions_vs_vive/
I'm going to need to see some receipts. Most audio is in the ear of the beholder and most headphones equipment in general is overpriced, but B&O isn't exactly on the high end. They are midrange, and depending on which model he is talking about they might be lower.
I'm hoping for a good headset experience but I'm not expecting hi-fi sound. Can you use your own headphones somehow and connect to their DAC?
I'm going to need to see some receipts. Most audio is in the ear of the beholder and most headphones equipment in general is overpriced, but B&O isn't exactly on the high end. They are midrange, and depending on which model he is talking about they might be lower.
I'm hoping for a good headset experience but I'm not expecting hi-fi sound. Can you use your own headphones somehow and connect to their DAC?
This
cheezcake
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Na, Luckeys said you'd have to do some hardware hacking and their DAC isn't capable of driving anything other than low impedance headphones well.
Trojita
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I've always known B&O as the premium Beats.
Nothing like Bowers & Wilkins, Polk Audio etc.
Teknopathetic
Member
"I believe I read somewhere that in the xx xxxxx order number format the first two x's likely denote a production run, with the subsequent x's being an identifier in the production run. Which I assume is 5 digits for future scalability rather than that they're actually producing up to 100,000 units in a single run."
Good to know, thanks for the explanation. In retrospect, that would be an insane amount of rifts to produce for 3 months.
Good to know, thanks for the explanation. In retrospect, that would be an insane amount of rifts to produce for 3 months.
Trojita
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I want to own some B&W P7's one day. Those never drop in price!
Buying the Fostex TH-X00 already hurt my bank account.
I would eat Quail if they sold 2 million units to regular consumers already.
artsi
Member
Palmer said that the headphones are on the same level as Audio Technica ATH-AD700X.
I'll probably stick to my Sennheiser HD 650's, but it's good for people who don't have good headphones.
Here's a potentially accurate chart of when you might expect your rift to ship (from /r/oculus):
It's been put together by a sampling of about 700 orders so far.
My order went through at 8:05am and I'm a 25X order. Apparently doesn't guarantee me in that first March 28 batch, but I guess I'll live with 93% for now lol.
i kinda call bs on this as this is my order
i also ordered around 4:10pm
cheezcake
Member
i kinda call bs on this as this is my order
i also ordered around 4:10pm
What country? I have a "26" but got an April estimate and I'm thinking it might be related to international buyers getting them more slowly.
I'm in the UK
I got a 28 and a march estimate for aus
Trojita
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Eating Quail isn't bad. It's why I said that
I had Quail and Waffles with Bacon Jam last week.
They are exactly the same
Trojita
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The difference between them is vast.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
i kinda call bs on this as this is my order
i also ordered around 4:10pm
Order number is likely created when adding to cart.
Let me guess, you checked the site while logged in yesterday then pulled the trigger today?
The rift is a nice Mercedes, and Google cardboard is a cracker you can nibble on as you walk to wherever you might have otherwise driven to in that Mercedes.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Uh. The difference is insanely huge.
Think the weapons capability of a fighter jet vs paper airplane.
Where is he btw? Don't remember seeing him in the myriad VR threads this week.
nope ordered yesterday around 4:10pm GMT
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cheezcake
Member
I think a reasonable estimate for the current amount of preorders would be ~100-150k. Given there's 19 current runs scheduled (if that assumption is correct) that corresponds to something like 6500 units a run, they said they produce at a rate of 100 units an hour so a net 65 hours of manufacturing for a production run seems reasonable.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
I wish krej could get tenure here or something, he's abrasive but I love reading his tech breakdowns. Makes me feel smarter than I am
You, my friend, have excellent taste in headphones. I'm kicking myself for missing out on the first drop of these.
It physically hurt my head to watch my relatives giving each other Beats for Christmas and acting like they were trading the keys to a Rolls Royce.
Oh. Temp hopefully - can be an abrasive so and so but he does it from passion.